Anonymous
12/14/2018 10:29
Subject: Is this residency fraud?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:But thinking back to the thread that's causing so much drama - my fraud investigation story - what the OP is describing is exactly what happened to that OP.
The family moved out of the boundary (in that case temporarily) but to another part of the city and was reported to her principal.
So while the PPs on this thread may not have as much of an issue with it as someone who lives outside the city, plenty of others do. And FWIW I think this kind of cheating is pretty rampant in WOTP schools.
Those situations are not comparable. For situations like the other thread's OP where she had to move out of the family home into temporary housing due to abuse, schools typically treat that as homelessness rather than a change of address and the children can continue to attend their current school until the housing situation is permanently resolved. Same process if, for instance, a family is temporarily displaced due to a house fire. In this case, there is no temporary displacement, the child is continuing to reside at their home address and her parents are acquiring another residence for someone else's use with no intention of the child living there.
Right - to the school systems the situations are different.
But what I was trying to say, not very well apparently, is that one should be prepared for other families at the WOTP to notice or wonder why your child isn't walking to school, is having their bday party in Shaw or whatever, and may report you.
Anonymous
12/14/2018 10:27
Subject: Is this residency fraud?
Anonymous wrote:But thinking back to the thread that's causing so much drama - my fraud investigation story - what the OP is describing is exactly what happened to that OP.
The family moved out of the boundary (in that case temporarily) but to another part of the city and was reported to her principal.
So while the PPs on this thread may not have as much of an issue with it as someone who lives outside the city, plenty of others do. And FWIW I think this kind of cheating is pretty rampant in WOTP schools.
Those situations are not comparable. For situations like the other thread's OP where she had to move out of the family home into temporary housing due to abuse, schools typically treat that as homelessness rather than a change of address and the children can continue to attend their current school until the housing situation is permanently resolved. Same process if, for instance, a family is temporarily displaced due to a house fire. In this case, there is no temporary displacement, the child is continuing to reside at their home address and her parents are acquiring another residence for someone else's use with no intention of the child living there.
Anonymous
12/14/2018 10:26
Subject: Is this residency fraud?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:But thinking back to the thread that's causing so much drama - my fraud investigation story - what the OP is describing is exactly what happened to that OP.
The family moved out of the boundary (in that case temporarily) but to another part of the city and was reported to her principal.
So while the PPs on this thread may not have as much of an issue with it as someone who lives outside the city, plenty of others do. And FWIW I think this kind of cheating is pretty rampant in WOTP schools.
+1
But moving isn't fraud at all -- currently you can move from your zoned school and continue attending it (as long as you still live in DC).
Anonymous
12/14/2018 10:25
Subject: Is this residency fraud?
On the paperwork you file with the school, you attest to everything on it being true. You would be knowingly and fraudulently stating an address that you know is not your children's domicile.
Anonymous
12/14/2018 10:23
Subject: Is this residency fraud?
Anonymous wrote:But thinking back to the thread that's causing so much drama - my fraud investigation story - what the OP is describing is exactly what happened to that OP.
The family moved out of the boundary (in that case temporarily) but to another part of the city and was reported to her principal.
So while the PPs on this thread may not have as much of an issue with it as someone who lives outside the city, plenty of others do. And FWIW I think this kind of cheating is pretty rampant in WOTP schools.
+1
Anonymous
12/14/2018 10:23
Subject: Is this residency fraud?
FFS, just buy a house WOTP and put your mom in a guest room.
Anonymous
12/14/2018 10:22
Subject: Is this residency fraud?
It is not Residency Fraud. But if are caught, you child can be sent back to your IB school. As long as you are comfortable with this, you are fine.
Anonymous
12/14/2018 10:20
Subject: Is this residency fraud?
But thinking back to the thread that's causing so much drama - my fraud investigation story - what the OP is describing is exactly what happened to that OP.
The family moved out of the boundary (in that case temporarily) but to another part of the city and was reported to her principal.
So while the PPs on this thread may not have as much of an issue with it as someone who lives outside the city, plenty of others do. And FWIW I think this kind of cheating is pretty rampant in WOTP schools.
The family moved out of the boundary (in that case temporarily) but to another part of the city and was reported to her principal.
So while the PPs on this thread may not have as much of an issue with it as someone who lives outside the city, plenty of others do. And FWIW I think this kind of cheating is pretty rampant in WOTP schools.
Anonymous
12/14/2018 10:19
Subject: Re:Is this residency fraud?
There's an easy answer to this question, OP. At any point in the process, would you have to tell DCPS that your child's address is anything other than the home address you teach your child?
Anonymous
12/14/2018 10:14
Subject: Is this residency fraud?
Anonymous wrote:Technically fraud, but as a taxpayer, I wouldn't really take much issue with it. You're paying taxes.
Agree. I don't have an issue with this as much as non-DC residents going to DC schools because they don't pay taxes.
Anonymous
12/14/2018 10:11
Subject: Is this residency fraud?
It is boundary fraud, not residency fraud.
If you and your child actually lived in the condo for a year and enrolled in the school the condo is zoned for, and then moved back to Shaw, your child could stay enrolled in the previous school with the principal's permission, through the last grade of that school (e.g. the condo is IB for Murch you could with permission stay through 5th).
Your child would not, under the current rules, be allowed to continue on to Deal with the rest of his/her classmates.
Boundary fraud is under the purview of DCPS, not OSSE (which regulates residency fraud - do you live in DC or another state).
If you and your child actually lived in the condo for a year and enrolled in the school the condo is zoned for, and then moved back to Shaw, your child could stay enrolled in the previous school with the principal's permission, through the last grade of that school (e.g. the condo is IB for Murch you could with permission stay through 5th).
Your child would not, under the current rules, be allowed to continue on to Deal with the rest of his/her classmates.
Boundary fraud is under the purview of DCPS, not OSSE (which regulates residency fraud - do you live in DC or another state).
Anonymous
12/14/2018 10:09
Subject: Is this residency fraud?
Technically fraud, but as a taxpayer, I wouldn't really take much issue with it. You're paying taxes.
Anonymous
12/14/2018 10:07
Subject: Re:Is this residency fraud?
Yes, that would be fraud. What matters is where the kid resides, not what other properties the parents might happen to own as well.
Anonymous
12/14/2018 10:06
Subject: Is this residency fraud?
Anonymous wrote:I live in shaw currently. I plan to buy a condo for my mom somewhere zoned for WOTP. I would send my kid to school at whatever school this condo is zoned for. I would do drop off, my mom would walk to do pick up, thereby avoiding any need for aftercare. The condo would be fully owned by me, in my name, my mother would not be paying rent. I would obviously be paying both taxes, but i would be keeping two residences. Is there any issue with this?
It would be solving two of my problems all at one time. Thanks!
Yes, it is fraud unless the kid resides in the WOTP address.
Anonymous
12/14/2018 10:04
Subject: Is this residency fraud?
I live in shaw currently. I plan to buy a condo for my mom somewhere zoned for WOTP. I would send my kid to school at whatever school this condo is zoned for. I would do drop off, my mom would walk to do pick up, thereby avoiding any need for aftercare. The condo would be fully owned by me, in my name, my mother would not be paying rent. I would obviously be paying both taxes, but i would be keeping two residences. Is there any issue with this?
It would be solving two of my problems all at one time. Thanks!
It would be solving two of my problems all at one time. Thanks!