Anonymous
Post 12/10/2018 00:31     Subject: Please read this before focusing too much on grades/elite colleges

I'm on hiring committee and we no longer consider Ivy League graduates. Too many of them were demanding "leave" for personal travel and special perks. They weren't good team players or "out of box" thinkers. I'm in journalism and, believe me, not all the NYTimes journalists send their kids to elite schools. Not by a long shot.

Anonymous
Post 12/09/2018 23:34     Subject: Re:Please read this before focusing too much on grades/elite colleges

Depends on the kind of job you want to do. In sales I'm sure grades don't matter so much.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2018 23:33     Subject: Please read this before focusing too much on grades/elite colleges

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/08/opinion/college-gpa-career-success.html#commentsContainer

My kids, who were mediocre high school students, excelled in college and have happy, fulfilled lives. Your kids can, too.


I've been in recruiting meetings at work ... we don't have the time to give everyone a chance, we have feeder colleges that have a history of giving us the talent we need and we literally won't even look at your resume with less than a 3.7 (software filters). The Times produces a lot of bullsh*t click-bait for the masses. All the big time journalists there send their kids to elite colleges. Kristof kids Harvard ... Charles Blow son at Yale ... on and on and on.


You and your company are missing out.

DP. They, probably, are, but it is not the point. And the point is, there are always fewer coveted spots than there are applicants, so if your uncle doesn't sit on the company's board and/or you aren't at an Ivy making good grades, your access to certain well-paid jobs will be somewhat restricted.
This is not to say that these jobs will necessarily lead to one's happiness and personal fullfillment, but if getting the job is your current goal..


There are plenty of high paying jobs for everyone. I wouldn’t stress about this. Most people don’t attend Ivy League schools.


That's just something that people with lousy grades say.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2018 23:33     Subject: Please read this before focusing too much on grades/elite colleges

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/08/opinion/college-gpa-career-success.html#commentsContainer

My kids, who were mediocre high school students, excelled in college and have happy, fulfilled lives. Your kids can, too.


I've been in recruiting meetings at work ... we don't have the time to give everyone a chance, we have feeder colleges that have a history of giving us the talent we need and we literally won't even look at your resume with less than a 3.7 (software filters). The Times produces a lot of bullsh*t click-bait for the masses. All the big time journalists there send their kids to elite colleges. Kristof kids Harvard ... Charles Blow son at Yale ... on and on and on.


what kind of company?
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2018 23:31     Subject: Please read this before focusing too much on grades/elite colleges

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/08/opinion/college-gpa-career-success.html#commentsContainer

My kids, who were mediocre high school students, excelled in college and have happy, fulfilled lives. Your kids can, too.


I've been in recruiting meetings at work ... we don't have the time to give everyone a chance, we have feeder colleges that have a history of giving us the talent we need and we literally won't even look at your resume with less than a 3.7 (software filters). The Times produces a lot of bullsh*t click-bait for the masses. All the big time journalists there send their kids to elite colleges. Kristof kids Harvard ... Charles Blow son at Yale ... on and on and on.


You and your company are missing out.

DP. They, probably, are, but it is not the point. And the point is, there are always fewer coveted spots than there are applicants, so if your uncle doesn't sit on the company's board and/or you aren't at an Ivy making good grades, your access to certain well-paid jobs will be somewhat restricted.
This is not to say that these jobs will necessarily lead to one's happiness and personal fullfillment, but if getting the job is your current goal..


There are plenty of high paying jobs for everyone. I wouldn’t stress about this. Most people don’t attend Ivy League schools.

Yep.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2018 23:26     Subject: Please read this before focusing too much on grades/elite colleges

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/08/opinion/college-gpa-career-success.html#commentsContainer

My kids, who were mediocre high school students, excelled in college and have happy, fulfilled lives. Your kids can, too.


I've been in recruiting meetings at work ... we don't have the time to give everyone a chance, we have feeder colleges that have a history of giving us the talent we need and we literally won't even look at your resume with less than a 3.7 (software filters). The Times produces a lot of bullsh*t click-bait for the masses. All the big time journalists there send their kids to elite colleges. Kristof kids Harvard ... Charles Blow son at Yale ... on and on and on.


You and your company are missing out.

DP. They, probably, are, but it is not the point. And the point is, there are always fewer coveted spots than there are applicants, so if your uncle doesn't sit on the company's board and/or you aren't at an Ivy making good grades, your access to certain well-paid jobs will be somewhat restricted.
This is not to say that these jobs will necessarily lead to one's happiness and personal fullfillment, but if getting the job is your current goal..


There are plenty of high paying jobs for everyone. I wouldn’t stress about this. Most people don’t attend Ivy League schools.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2018 23:09     Subject: Re:Please read this before focusing too much on grades/elite colleges

The high grades will help you get the job in the first place.
Then after that, sure, they don't matter so much.
I like to think though that mastering the material is worthwhile in itself and usually correlates with a good grade.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2018 21:50     Subject: Please read this before focusing too much on grades/elite colleges

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/08/opinion/college-gpa-career-success.html#commentsContainer

My kids, who were mediocre high school students, excelled in college and have happy, fulfilled lives. Your kids can, too.


I've been in recruiting meetings at work ... we don't have the time to give everyone a chance, we have feeder colleges that have a history of giving us the talent we need and we literally won't even look at your resume with less than a 3.7 (software filters). The Times produces a lot of bullsh*t click-bait for the masses. All the big time journalists there send their kids to elite colleges. Kristof kids Harvard ... Charles Blow son at Yale ... on and on and on.


Meh - it depends on the industry. The more technical the position, the less concern about pedigree.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2018 19:49     Subject: Please read this before focusing too much on grades/elite colleges

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/08/opinion/college-gpa-career-success.html#commentsContainer

My kids, who were mediocre high school students, excelled in college and have happy, fulfilled lives. Your kids can, too.


I've been in recruiting meetings at work ... we don't have the time to give everyone a chance, we have feeder colleges that have a history of giving us the talent we need and we literally won't even look at your resume with less than a 3.7 (software filters). The Times produces a lot of bullsh*t click-bait for the masses. All the big time journalists there send their kids to elite colleges. Kristof kids Harvard ... Charles Blow son at Yale ... on and on and on.


You and your company are missing out.

DP. They, probably, are, but it is not the point. And the point is, there are always fewer coveted spots than there are applicants, so if your uncle doesn't sit on the company's board and/or you aren't at an Ivy making good grades, your access to certain well-paid jobs will be somewhat restricted.
This is not to say that these jobs will necessarily lead to one's happiness and personal fullfillment, but if getting the job is your current goal..
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2018 19:38     Subject: Please read this before focusing too much on grades/elite colleges

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/08/opinion/college-gpa-career-success.html#commentsContainer

My kids, who were mediocre high school students, excelled in college and have happy, fulfilled lives. Your kids can, too.


I've been in recruiting meetings at work ... we don't have the time to give everyone a chance, we have feeder colleges that have a history of giving us the talent we need and we literally won't even look at your resume with less than a 3.7 (software filters). The Times produces a lot of bullsh*t click-bait for the masses. All the big time journalists there send their kids to elite colleges. Kristof kids Harvard ... Charles Blow son at Yale ... on and on and on.


You and your company are missing out.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2018 18:36     Subject: Please read this before focusing too much on grades/elite colleges

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/08/opinion/college-gpa-career-success.html#commentsContainer

My kids, who were mediocre high school students, excelled in college and have happy, fulfilled lives. Your kids can, too.


I've been in recruiting meetings at work ... we don't have the time to give everyone a chance, we have feeder colleges that have a history of giving us the talent we need and we literally won't even look at your resume with less than a 3.7 (software filters). The Times produces a lot of bullsh*t click-bait for the masses. All the big time journalists there send their kids to elite colleges. Kristof kids Harvard ... Charles Blow son at Yale ... on and on and on.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2018 18:26     Subject: Re:Please read this before focusing too much on grades/elite colleges

Thanks, OP. Loved this article.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2018 16:13     Subject: Re:Please read this before focusing too much on grades/elite colleges

As soon as colleges stop focusing too much on grades, that's when I'll stop focusing too much on grades.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2018 15:22     Subject: Please read this before focusing too much on grades/elite colleges

OP, did you read the Comment of the Moment attached to the NY Times article? It says grades matter less to the privileged. I suppose grades matter less if one can pull off going from brunette to blonde.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2018 14:50     Subject: Please read this before focusing too much on grades/elite colleges

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/08/opinion/college-gpa-career-success.html#commentsContainer

My kids, who were mediocre high school students, excelled in college and have happy, fulfilled lives. Your kids can, too.