We are a young decent/highish earning couple (HHI north of 200k) and never considered DC for reasons in this article. Mainly the price. DC is too expensive, not enough space, and doesnt offer a good commute at all. If our jobs werent central do the DC area we would not live here. I love visiting the city, but would never live there.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/realestate/the-new-boomtowns-why-more-people-are-relocating-to-secondary-cities/2018/11/07/f55f96f4-d618-11e8-aeb7-ddcad4a0a54e_story.html

Just one in a long line of recent articles pointing to a mass exodus of young people from cities like DC. Despite the groupthink here, I think it’s safe to say that prices can only go so high when young families have more options than they once did (you can move anywhere with telework and good jobs can be had basically anywhere). Also, the whole “____ is too conservative/southern” argument is losing steam because secondary cities are all flipping to blue zones.

Great! Goodbye!

The reason people are leaving isn't because they wouldn't prefer to be in NYC, SF, or DC. Its because they can't afford it. Or at least not at the level they prefer. Cities are back in vogue and there is only so much space to go around. I don't see this an article saying that DC is over. To the contrary, I see it as a confirmation that the DC market is too hot. Honestly, DC would probably be better off with a lull in population growth.

NP. Why the eye roll? It's true.

True, DC proper offers some incentives to young families (namely, universal PK and lots of free/low-cost activities for children). On the other hand, it's not cheap to live here, and I don't see it becoming less expensive anytime soon given the HQ2 hysteria.

I often ask myself why we stay, since we're only here for work.

Do we have family here? No.
Do we have meaningful friendships? No.
Is it easy to meet like-minded, laid-back parents who aren't working all the time? No. (Although I realize this could be related to our neighborhood.)
Does DC offer the same "big city" things as NYC, SF, Chicago, etc.? No.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/realestate/the-new-boomtowns-why-more-people-are-relocating-to-secondary-cities/2018/11/07/f55f96f4-d618-11e8-aeb7-ddcad4a0a54e_story.html

Just one in a long line of recent articles pointing to a mass exodus of young people from cities like DC. Despite the groupthink here, I think it’s safe to say that prices can only go so high when young families have more options than they once did (you can move anywhere with telework and good jobs can be had basically anywhere). Also, the whole “____ is too conservative/southern” argument is losing steam because secondary cities are all flipping to blue zones.

Great! Goodbye!

The reason people are leaving isn't because they wouldn't prefer to be in NYC, SF, or DC. Its because they can't afford it. Or at least not at the level they prefer. Cities are back in vogue and there is only so much space to go around. I don't see this an article saying that DC is over. To the contrary, I see it as a confirmation that the DC market is too hot. Honestly, DC would probably be better off with a lull in population growth.

DP. Why the eye roll emoji?

Oh hey, it your bi-annual "why young people are leaving DC" article, even though people are still moving here and so is amazon.

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/realestate/the-new-boomtowns-why-more-people-are-relocating-to-secondary-cities/2018/11/07/f55f96f4-d618-11e8-aeb7-ddcad4a0a54e_story.html

Just one in a long line of recent articles pointing to a mass exodus of young people from cities like DC. Despite the groupthink here, I think it’s safe to say that prices can only go so high when young families have more options than they once did (you can move anywhere with telework and good jobs can be had basically anywhere). Also, the whole “____ is too conservative/southern” argument is losing steam because secondary cities are all flipping to blue zones.

So only the young count?

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/realestate/the-new-boomtowns-why-more-people-are-relocating-to-secondary-cities/2018/11/07/f55f96f4-d618-11e8-aeb7-ddcad4a0a54e_story.html

Just one in a long line of recent articles pointing to a mass exodus of young people from cities like DC. Despite the groupthink here, I think it’s safe to say that prices can only go so high when young families have more options than they once did (you can move anywhere with telework and good jobs can be had basically anywhere). Also, the whole “____ is too conservative/southern” argument is losing steam because secondary cities are all flipping to blue zones.

Great! Goodbye!

The reason people are leaving isn't because they wouldn't prefer to be in NYC, SF, or DC. Its because they can't afford it. Or at least not at the level they prefer. Cities are back in vogue and there is only so much space to go around. I don't see this an article saying that DC is over. To the contrary, I see it as a confirmation that the DC market is too hot. Honestly, DC would probably be better off with a lull in population growth.

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/realestate/the-new-boomtowns-why-more-people-are-relocating-to-secondary-cities/2018/11/07/f55f96f4-d618-11e8-aeb7-ddcad4a0a54e_story.html

Just one in a long line of recent articles pointing to a mass exodus of young people from cities like DC. Despite the groupthink here, I think it’s safe to say that prices can only go so high when young families have more options than they once did (you can move anywhere with telework and good jobs can be had basically anywhere). Also, the whole “____ is too conservative/southern” argument is losing steam because secondary cities are all flipping to blue zones.

Great! Goodbye!

The reason people are leaving isn't because they wouldn't prefer to be in NYC, SF, or DC. Its because they can't afford it. Or at least not at the level they prefer. Cities are back in vogue and there is only so much space to go around. I don't see this an article saying that DC is over. To the contrary, I see it as a confirmation that the DC market is too hot. Honestly, DC would probably be better off with a lull in population growth.

I agree that it is forcing *some* young people to lower cost areas. Those with higher paying jobs or parents' help are still moving here. It still has reasonable amenities, walkability, and is very liberal, which is appealing to many.

This area sucks and I'm from here. It was great in the 70's and 80's.

DC is not over. Might it go back to a reasonable housing market at some point? Sure. But the fed govt lives here and this is a place people have to come for those jobs.

Being 'over' for one segment of the population doesn't mean 'over.'

Anonymous wrote:Meh, I still see people coming to DC for the jobs. We will always have jobs aplenty, even when the rest of country is facing the inevitable cyclical downturn.

Federal jobs that hardly pay enough to sustain the current housing market

Meh, I still see people coming to DC for the jobs. We will always have jobs aplenty, even when the rest of country is facing the inevitable cyclical downturn.

Anonymous wrote: Also, the whole “____ is too conservative/southern” argument is losing steam because secondary cities are all flipping to blue zones.

Yes, but rural votes matter more electorally.

All the cities may be blue, but they do not turn out to vote like rural voters do.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/realestate/the-new-boomtowns-why-more-people-are-relocating-to-secondary-cities/2018/11/07/f55f96f4-d618-11e8-aeb7-ddcad4a0a54e_story.html

Just one in a long line of recent articles pointing to a mass exodus of young people from cities like DC. Despite the groupthink here, I think it’s safe to say that prices can only go so high when young families have more options than they once did (you can move anywhere with telework and good jobs can be had basically anywhere). Also, the whole “____ is too conservative/southern” argument is losing steam because secondary cities are all flipping to blue zones.