Anonymous
Post 11/13/2018 11:15     Subject: Re:Pelvic exams on unconscious women
Anonymous wrote:OR nurse here. Be thankful for the nurses in the room. Those who are not yet desensitized will save you from so much rough shod treatment. This practice of pelvic exams is a tradition from teaching. Some attendings still do it, some do not. I don't want to create undue fear, but once you are asleep, the surgical team forgets you are human due dignity and kindness. Seriously, your nurses will protect from a lot, however they also become sort of traumatized and awful behavior becomes normalized.


I'm thankful for women nurses. What can you do when a very creepy male nurse shows up?
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2018 11:11     Subject: Re:Pelvic exams on unconscious women
OR nurse here. Be thankful for the nurses in the room. Those who are not yet desensitized will save you from so much rough shod treatment. This practice of pelvic exams is a tradition from teaching. Some attendings still do it, some do not. I don't want to create undue fear, but once you are asleep, the surgical team forgets you are human due dignity and kindness. Seriously, your nurses will protect from a lot, however they also become sort of traumatized and awful behavior becomes normalized.

Anonymous
Post 11/13/2018 11:00     Subject: Pelvic exams on unconscious women
Anonymous wrote:There needs to be a #metoo movement for doctors to shine the light on the rest of the Larry Nasars still in practice.

But it's not just the rape of women and girls. It's the "I'm the Doctor" attitude, and "I'll tell you what will happen." Or, I'll just do it, without telling you.

Here's a clue:
When he addresses you by your first name when you are no longer a child. Be ready to call him "David", or whatever. Put HIM in his place.

HE works for YOU!
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2018 10:55     Subject: Pelvic exams on unconscious women
There needs to be a #metoo movement for doctors to shine the light on the rest of the Larry Nasars still in practice.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2018 10:51     Subject: Pelvic exams on unconscious women
Anonymous wrote:I have heard two different doctors that I know socially say that their job is to choose who lives and who dies. The were expressing the power they feel. If you knew them like I do, you wouldn't want either one of them making that call for you or your family. They are flawed.

They truly believe they're God. Fuk em.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2018 10:49     Subject: Pelvic exams on unconscious women
I have heard two different doctors that I know socially say that their job is to choose who lives and who dies. The were expressing the power they feel. If you knew them like I do, you wouldn't want either one of them making that call for you or your family. They are flawed.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2018 10:49     Subject: Pelvic exams on unconscious women

This is really outrageous.
Share this important information with everyone.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2018 10:39     Subject: Pelvic exams on unconscious women
Once you cross the threshold into the doctors' domain, you have no rights. Believe me. They will do to you what they like. Or threaten you with certain death, because they're "just trying to help you".

Anonymous
Post 11/13/2018 10:36     Subject: Pelvic exams on unconscious women
Anonymous wrote:
This is EXACTLY why you NEVER
leave your loved one ALONE in a hospital!

You NEVER know WHAT they're doing to them.
Hospitals are NOT safe places.

Just saying the truth.
Buyer BEWARE.



100% agree.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2018 10:35     Subject: Pelvic exams on unconscious women
It doesn't surprise me. I was having foot surgery under local anesthesia and a male doctor in training walked into the darkened OR and proceeded to lift the sheet off my naked body when I lifted my head and asked what he was doing. He stopped, my doctor said nothing. I imagine if I was asleep they could have done anything to my body. There were no other people in the room.

I avoid male doctors now.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2018 10:34     Subject: Re:Pelvic exams on unconscious women
I also decline the consent form because it's too broadly written. In some cases I am willing to speak with a student or have them do an exam, but I always want the opportunity to accept or decline the specific situation. However, I wonder if they even check the consent forms in this type of situation?
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2018 10:31     Subject: Re:Pelvic exams on unconscious women
This is the This American Life piece: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/661/but-thats-what-happened/act-2-2
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2018 10:31     Subject: Pelvic exams on unconscious women
When I went to a teaching hospital for treatment, I was given a consent form - standard practice - because they are a teaching hospital. Simply decline.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2018 10:27     Subject: Pelvic exams on unconscious women

This is EXACTLY why you NEVER
leave your loved one ALONE in a hospital!

You NEVER know WHAT they're doing to them.
Hospitals are NOT safe places.

Just saying the truth.
Buyer BEWARE.

Anonymous
Post 11/13/2018 10:23     Subject: Pelvic exams on unconscious women
Heads up that this continues to be a practice which is incredibly upsetting when you go in for surgery. Some med students don’t know what they are doing so the thought of being violated in this way is terrible. This American life apparently did a segment on this recently. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2018/05/14/pelvic-exams-on-anesthetized-women-without-consent-a-troubling-and-outdated-practice/amp/