I've found dating here to be great. Have met many attractive, intelligent cool women from all walks of life (big law, marketing, Washington Post, teachers, nurses, etc.).

If you have a chip on your shoulder or don't like women, you might struggle.

Anonymous wrote:As a 5’10 guy of average looks and not remotely wealthy I found when I dated that each woman had something like 10-15 guys competing with me for her. As an average guy who isn’t a player the odds were always against me. I never dated more than one woman at a time, I probably should have but I doubt that would have made much of a difference.

Do you mean on a first date? Or once you were dating exclusively? Because I think it's true for a first date but it goes both ways - if you're both single you both have a lot of options. If you were dating women who made it clear to you that they had a deep bench long after you'd begun dating, that's an ugly place to be.

I think everyone should date as many people as they want until an exclusivity conversation - men and women. I would never assume just because I met a guy off OKCupid for drinks he had forsworn the company of other women, that's nuts. So if that's what you were doing, I agree you hamstrung yourself a little. But if it makes you feel better I know women who did the same thing: didn't want to meet a guy until they felt a "deep connection" and would only even message with one guy at a time. Lots of high hopes, dashed expectations, and then bitterness.

Anonymous wrote:This sounds really atypical for DC. Stats are on your side and I almost always think the women are better looking than the guys. Most average single guys I know LOVE DC dating compared to other cities.

Stats are on your side if you're considered a "high status" man, whoever that is. (See that other thread.) The rest of us: no. A woman wrote about dating in New York City that a guy isn't merely competing with other men, he is competing with a woman's desire to remain alone. I think that is what is happening here too.

My personal experience: I met here and married an immigrant who shared little of of the local mindset. She wanted me around, she didn't want to wait for a perfect guy.

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds really atypical for DC. Stats are on your side and I almost always think the women are better looking than the guys. Most average single guys I know LOVE DC dating compared to other cities.

Man here. Fit, 5'10" and pretty cute. Lived in a bunch of different cities and never had any trouble scrounging up a girlfriend until I moved to DC late twenties. I found it damn near impossible to even get a date, it was like pulling teeth. I really feel women in this town are holding out for the unmarried, 30 year-old senator with a family fortune. A unicorn, in other words.

It's anecdotal of course, but I currently have two very beautiful 20-something young women for neighbors. None of my business, but I've not seen any evidence of young men in their lives. Guess that means there's no young men in Washington? Or just not the RIGHT young men...?

The men here are pretty effeminate as this is a very liberal area. These women will be FBs with conservative manly men but won’t marry them

Tru dat, but they cuckhold them with a manly man, if you don’t mind being a bull.

It's anecdotal of course, but I currently have two very beautiful 20-something young women for neighbors. None of my business, but I've not seen any evidence of young men in their lives. Guess that means there's no young men in Washington? Or just not the RIGHT young men...?

Or maybe they are gay. It is 2018 and women can date women and be happy.

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds really atypical for DC. Stats are on your side and I almost always think the women are better looking than the guys. Most average single guys I know LOVE DC dating compared to other cities.

Man here. Fit, 5'10" and pretty cute. Lived in a bunch of different cities and never had any trouble scrounging up a girlfriend until I moved to DC late twenties. I found it damn near impossible to even get a date, it was like pulling teeth. I really feel women in this town are holding out for the unmarried, 30 year-old senator with a family fortune. A unicorn, in other words.

It's anecdotal of course, but I currently have two very beautiful 20-something young women for neighbors. None of my business, but I've not seen any evidence of young men in their lives. Guess that means there's no young men in Washington? Or just not the RIGHT young men...?

The men here are pretty effeminate as this is a very liberal area. These women will be FBs with conservative manly men but won’t marry them

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Anonymous wrote:As a 5’10 guy of average looks and not remotely wealthy I found when I dated that each woman had something like 10-15 guys competing with me for her. As an average guy who isn’t a player the odds were always against me. I never dated more than one woman at a time, I probably should have but I doubt that would have made much of a difference.

Try all of that plus being 5’5”. You get all of that plus the 5’1” woman who will only date someone 6’ or taller, yet you’re a pig for preferring blondes/brunettes/redheads.

I actually had a 4’11 woman tell me I was too short for her.

My favorite is women who don’t have degrees telling me I don’t make enough money or don’t have a high enough status job for her

Anonymous wrote:This sounds really atypical for DC. Stats are on your side and I almost always think the women are better looking than the guys. Most average single guys I know LOVE DC dating compared to other cities.

Man here. Fit, 5'10" and pretty cute. Lived in a bunch of different cities and never had any trouble scrounging up a girlfriend until I moved to DC late twenties. I found it damn near impossible to even get a date, it was like pulling teeth. I really feel women in this town are holding out for the unmarried, 30 year-old senator with a family fortune. A unicorn, in other words.

It's anecdotal of course, but I currently have two very beautiful 20-something young women for neighbors. None of my business, but I've not seen any evidence of young men in their lives. Guess that means there's no young men in Washington? Or just not the RIGHT young men...?

Anonymous wrote:As a 5’10 guy of average looks and not remotely wealthy I found when I dated that each woman had something like 10-15 guys competing with me for her. As an average guy who isn’t a player the odds were always against me. I never dated more than one woman at a time, I probably should have but I doubt that would have made much of a difference.

Try all of that plus being 5’5”. You get all of that plus the 5’1” woman who will only date someone 6’ or taller, yet you’re a pig for preferring blondes/brunettes/redheads.

This sounds really atypical for DC. Stats are on your side and I almost always think the women are better looking than the guys. Most average single guys I know LOVE DC dating compared to other cities.

Some of the better were taken early. Older ones well over 30 seem desperate.

Women who don’t know what they want - so it appears to me.

I'm the same height as OP and pretty good looking and during my dating years I dated some very pretty women but I never felt I was competing against a small army. Maybe I was clueless! I wasn't dating gorgeous model types because they weren't in my orbit plus I really liked smart, attractive women. It sounds like OP lacks confidence. Before I dated someone I usually knew them for awhile so I had a sense for if they were dating someone and if I had a chance. Most of the time I did so my batting average was pretty good. I was far from being a player but I think I was pretty smart about how I played. I finally met a very smart, very pretty woman and that ended my dating career.

Cool story, bro. What's your point? Are you single or did you finally find someone?

The reality is that average looking people need to lower their standards to average looking people. It isn't hard to find someone when you have realistic expectations.

As a 5’10 guy of average looks and not remotely wealthy I found when I dated that each woman had something like 10-15 guys competing with me for her. As an average guy who isn’t a player the odds were always against me. I never dated more than one woman at a time, I probably should have but I doubt that would have made much of a difference.