Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've heard of people who have extra embryos and get them transferred during known non-fertile windows in the cycle. It's basically an ethical loophole. You aren't 'killing' the embryo, but you also know there is basically no change of it actually leading to pregnancy.

This is so ridiculous.

It really is.

Not any more ridiculous than religious beliefs to begin with. Stop judging.

I have friends who donated their extra embryos for religious reasons.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've heard of people who have extra embryos and get them transferred during known non-fertile windows in the cycle. It's basically an ethical loophole. You aren't 'killing' the embryo, but you also know there is basically no change of it actually leading to pregnancy.

This is so ridiculous.

It really is.

I'm that PP. I'm with you, but seemed like it might be of interest to OP.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've heard of people who have extra embryos and get them transferred during known non-fertile windows in the cycle. It's basically an ethical loophole. You aren't 'killing' the embryo, but you also know there is basically no change of it actually leading to pregnancy.

This is so ridiculous.

It really is.

Anonymous wrote:I've heard of people who have extra embryos and get them transferred during known non-fertile windows in the cycle. It's basically an ethical loophole. You aren't 'killing' the embryo, but you also know there is basically no change of it actually leading to pregnancy.

This is so ridiculous.

Anonymous wrote:I've heard of people who have extra embryos and get them transferred during known non-fertile windows in the cycle. It's basically an ethical loophole. You aren't 'killing' the embryo, but you also know there is basically no change of it actually leading to pregnancy.

^^^did some Googling, it's called 'compassionate transfer'.

I've heard of people who have extra embryos and get them transferred during known non-fertile windows in the cycle. It's basically an ethical loophole. You aren't 'killing' the embryo, but you also know there is basically no change of it actually leading to pregnancy.

Anonymous wrote:I am looking to transfer my PGS normal and abnormal embryos to cryo preservation facility. I do not discuss these concerns with any REs because I know they would think I am crazy/unusual for not wanting to discard PGS abnormals or not wanting to abort a pregnancy. I just make these arrangements by myself and keep quiet about my moral/ethical views.

I don't think not wanting to abort is that unusual (and certainly not crazy). I'd hope REs would be respectful enough to deal with an individual's choices even if they're different from what they'd do. W/r/t abnormal embryos, most REs won't transfer them, so that is also something to think about if you're not OK with keeping them frozen indefinitely. I've seen posts on other sites where REs who question the accuracy of PGS will transfer abnormal embryos, so it may be possible to find someone to transfer them if you look hard enough.

I haven't done IVF, but I was a patient with Dr. Gordon at Dominion Fertility. At our initial consult with him (we transferred to him from another clinic), he briefly went through all the options that might pertain to our specific situation, including both regular and NC-IVF. He made a point to mention that regular IVF brings with it ethical choices that some may affect certain individuals. He specifically mentioned it's possible there could be extra embryos, so the couple would eventually have to decide what to do with them. The fact he brought this up during our general, initial consult conversation suggests to me that he may be an RE for you to consider consulting with. In addition, I had an excellent experience with him and highly recommend him and Dominion.

OP, it will cost more no matter how you go about it. If you do a natural cycle IVF it would work out financially less only if you're successful on the 1st try.

I am looking to transfer my PGS normal and abnormal embryos to cryo preservation facility. I do not discuss these concerns with any REs because I know they would think I am crazy/unusual for not wanting to discard PGS abnormals or not wanting to abort a pregnancy. I just make these arrangements by myself and keep quiet about my moral/ethical views.

You can try NCIVF at Dominion. No extras and each cycle is less expensive. That's probably a good option if you're expecting IVF to be a near slam dunk for you.

With PCOS, egg freezing is probably an option, since you're likely to get above the normal # of eggs. But, it will make things more expensive to only do a few eggs at a time. You get charged by batch, so each time you'd thaw a set of eggs, you'd be paying for the procedures again. Also, eggs don't freeze as well, so you can count on losing some. I'd assume that most REs would consider doing this for you.

If age or DOR is a factor, you shouldn't worry too much about extras. This is where I think you'd have issues finding REs that would think minimizing embryos would be a good idea. I'd expect that you'd hear that you would really be hurting your chances if you try to minimize embryos in this case, but if that's OK with you, then I'd bet you'd be able to find someone to work with. Might be good to try a smaller practice - just so you're working with the same people more often and they understand why certain things are being done.

You could also look into a mini-IVF. Lower doses of meds, fewer eggs. This has a lower cost per cycle. This can also be a good option for DOR/age. Cornell does an ultra low dose protocol for DOR/age and I know other REs in the DC area will consider it, too.

People donate embryos to others, so that's also an option.

If you're trying to use insurance, you should also consider if they'll cover it if you try to minimize.

Yes, I was not interested in having extra embryos. We used dr Di Mattina with Dominion Fertility and did natural cycle IVF. Only one egg at a time.

jenaloo815 wrote:Hi,

After about 3 years of other failed treatments, it's time to explore IVF. I have multiple consults coming up, but I have concerns about discarding embryos after IVF. I know there are ways to work around these concerns (freezing eggs instead of embryos, only fertilizing a certain number, etc), but that these things might cost more/will take clinic flexibility/etc.

Has anyone worked with an RE in DC who is sensitive to these types of concerns and who will work with me on them? (Even better - has anyone had this concern and figured out how to make it work??)

Thanks in advance for any help you all can offer.

Not sure if I know an RE who is particularly concerned with this topic, but embryo donation is a route many go on if they don't want to discard.

Hi,

After about 3 years of other failed treatments, it's time to explore IVF. I have multiple consults coming up, but I have concerns about discarding embryos after IVF. I know there are ways to work around these concerns (freezing eggs instead of embryos, only fertilizing a certain number, etc), but that these things might cost more/will take clinic flexibility/etc.

Has anyone worked with an RE in DC who is sensitive to these types of concerns and who will work with me on them? (Even better - has anyone had this concern and figured out how to make it work??)

Thanks in advance for any help you all can offer.