OP here,
Mine is current 6th grader from W feeder who got selected to TPMS with new selection criteria-very high Map M and Map R, 99s with high raw scores also. Did very well on the non graded beginner section.
Scored between 250-275 on MAP-M recently, the scores of other magnet kids whom we know (around 30 or so) also range from 250-295. That’s why used the word ‘most’. I really doubt anyone in the magnet class scored way lower.
The point of my post was not to start another debate but to let concerned parents know that the selection criteria was not so bogus as was assumed in the heated discussion in the spring of this year. All these kids, atleast whom I have met, are very engaged, hardworking and smart kids no matter which socio economic background or race they are from, and also I did not mean in any ways that those who did not get selected were less deserving.

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Anonymous wrote:My 6th grader’s fall map-m score was 250. He got into TPMS but we declined. He wanted to go to our home school, and the bus ride would have been awful.

He did not get into Eastern, Map-R was somewhere in the high 230’s.

Were you part of the W-feeder schools?

Nope. And he had the 2nd highest score for math in his class. No idea if the other student got into toms.

Sigh. At least 1/3 of the kids at our Cold Spring ES got in the 250's or above on their Winter 4th grade MAP-M. Presumably the Cold Spring 5th graders scored even higher than the 4th graders and we only know of 2 who got admitted to Middle School magnets from Cold Spring.

Make your own judgment as to how MCPS truly needs to open another magnet center on the west side of the county. My impression is that the existing "magnet-lite" classes aren't enough for the current Frost/Cabin John/Hoover cohorts returning to their home middle schools from the CES programs.

PP again. Also, thank you to the previous poster for sharing your child's scores. Congrats to your child for getting into TPMS last year. I am sure it is a personal decision, and a student who is bright will hopefully continue to do so. Hopefully you current middle school is challenging your child somewhat in 6th.

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Anonymous wrote:My 6th grader’s fall map-m score was 250. He got into TPMS but we declined. He wanted to go to our home school, and the bus ride would have been awful.

He did not get into Eastern, Map-R was somewhere in the high 230’s.

Were you part of the W-feeder schools?

Nope. And he had the 2nd highest score for math in his class. No idea if the other student got into toms.

Sigh. At least 1/3 of the kids at our Cold Spring ES got in the 250's or above on their Winter 4th grade MAP-M. Presumably the Cold Spring 5th graders scored even higher than the 4th graders and we only know of 2 who got admitted to Middle School magnets from Cold Spring.

Make your own judgment as to how MCPS truly needs to open another magnet center on the west side of the county. My impression is that the existing "magnet-lite" classes aren't enough for the current Frost/Cabin John/Hoover cohorts returning to their home middle schools from the CES programs.

I have never heard of MAP R and MAP M scores for 6th grade students in either program being made publicly available. Where are you getting your information?

Do we know the MAP R and MAP M scores of the kids who are now in 6th grade at Hoover, Sligo, Frost, SSIMs who would have been accepted in previous years but did not because of the peer cohort criteria?

Anonymous wrote:Just to let all those parents know who criticized the magnet selection not being fair as many high performing kids from CES centers did not get selected, raw scores were requested, data were shared, and law suits were threatened, MAP- M scores of most of selected kids range from 250-294. Math counts try outs are competitive and still have high flyers from sixth grade though the selection criteria of these sixth graders was based on cogat and not traditional way, science class is serious business with lots of hands raised to answer teacher’s questions on a specific topic discussion. I don’t see these kids being any less smart (than those who did not make it to the magnet and parents cried foul).
Just sharing my observations as I see similar threads popping up about this year’s selection to middle school magnets.

May I ask how you know these scores from last year? Did the TPMS give it out?

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Anonymous wrote:My 6th grader’s fall map-m score was 250. He got into TPMS but we declined. He wanted to go to our home school, and the bus ride would have been awful.

He did not get into Eastern, Map-R was somewhere in the high 230’s.

Were you part of the W-feeder schools?

Nope. And he had the 2nd highest score for math in his class. No idea if the other student got into tpms.

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Anonymous wrote:Just to let all those parents know who criticized the magnet selection not being fair as many high performing kids from CES centers did not get selected, raw scores were requested, data were shared, and law suits were threatened, MAP- M scores of most of selected kids range from 250-294. Math counts try outs are competitive and still have high flyers from sixth grade though the selection criteria of these sixth graders was based on cogat and not traditional way, science class is serious business with lots of hands raised to answer teacher’s questions on a specific topic discussion. I don’t see these kids being any less smart (than those who did not make it to the magnet and parents cried foul).
Just sharing my observations as I see similar threads popping up about this year’s selection to middle school magnets.

Most? What were the average scores compared to previous years. How many kids were rejected with scores at the top end of this range. That's what people want to know.

Exactly. Love these fuzzy anecdotal claims, obviously made by parents whose kids got in with lower metrics than the rejected "peer cohort" W feeder kids. I'm quite sure THEY JUST KNOW how smart the admitted kids are.

Anonymous wrote:My 6th grader’s fall map-m score was 250. He got into TPMS but we declined. He wanted to go to our home school, and the bus ride would have been awful.

He did not get into Eastern, Map-R was somewhere in the high 230’s.

Were you part of the W-feeder schools?

Anonymous wrote:Just to let all those parents know who criticized the magnet selection not being fair as many high performing kids from CES centers did not get selected, raw scores were requested, data were shared, and law suits were threatened, MAP- M scores of most of selected kids range from 250-294. Math counts try outs are competitive and still have high flyers from sixth grade though the selection criteria of these sixth graders was based on cogat and not traditional way, science class is serious business with lots of hands raised to answer teacher’s questions on a specific topic discussion. I don’t see these kids being any less smart (than those who did not make it to the magnet and parents cried foul).
Just sharing my observations as I see similar threads popping up about this year’s selection to middle school magnets.

Most? What were the average scores compared to previous years. How many kids were rejected with scores at the top end of this range. That's what people want to know.

My 6th grader’s fall map-m score was 250. He got into TPMS but we declined. He wanted to go to our home school, and the bus ride would have been awful.

He did not get into Eastern, Map-R was somwhere in the high 230’s.

Anonymous wrote:What about all the kids who had MAP-M scores that high and did NOT get in. Did they also not deserve to be there?

There are limited slots. Some kids who “deserve to be there” will not get in. Harvard could probably fill its class at least 5 times over with kids who would be successful there. They don’t all get in. This is life.

What about all the kids who had MAP-M scores that high and did NOT get in. Did they also not deserve to be there?

Finding the same is true with MAP-R scores in 6th grade over at Eastern. This is a great cohort. Very smart and absolutely deserving to be here.

MAP M scores of sixth graders from non magnet middle schools anyone?

Just to let all those parents know who criticized the magnet selection not being fair as many high performing kids from CES centers did not get selected, raw scores were requested, data were shared, and law suits were threatened, MAP- M scores of most of selected kids range from 250-294. Math counts try outs are competitive and still have high flyers from sixth grade though the selection criteria of these sixth graders was based on cogat and not traditional way, science class is serious business with lots of hands raised to answer teacher’s questions on a specific topic discussion. I don’t see these kids being any less smart (than those who did not make it to the magnet and parents cried foul).
Just sharing my observations as I see similar threads popping up about this year’s selection to middle school magnets.