Anonymous
Post 10/08/2018 20:41     Subject: For boys - what is normal ages for them to “peak”?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The truth is you really know nothing about kids until after puberty.

And as for worrying about not making a travel team, well, don't.
None of the bigger teams can resist taking your money. They might put you on the 6th team, but they'll put you somewhere.


Which is why I just can't handle my younger son's U11 parents at present. They all think 'this is it', their kid is THE star. I have older children and see how it usually turns out...


This.


Actually, there are plenty of late bloomers who made it big time in the pros. You can't look at an elementary school kid and know for sure what they are capable of. There is a lot wrong with US Soccer, but what it does right is give opportunities to players that could easily be overlooked in other parts of the world. That's not totally a bad thing.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2018 15:06     Subject: For boys - what is normal ages for them to “peak”?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The truth is you really know nothing about kids until after puberty.

And as for worrying about not making a travel team, well, don't.
None of the bigger teams can resist taking your money. They might put you on the 6th team, but they'll put you somewhere.


Which is why I just can't handle my younger son's U11 parents at present. They all think 'this is it', their kid is THE star. I have older children and see how it usually turns out...


This.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2018 15:03     Subject: For boys - what is normal ages for them to “peak”?

Anonymous wrote:I am in the same boat OP.
DS plays ASA ADP and wants to move to u10 travel. Problem is he is not one of the best ADP players so I do not see him making travel at all.
It may be a good wake up call for him to work harder if he wants to make it next year; but once you are 2-3 years behind on the training travel teams get he really is going to have to work his ass off; and even the it will be a long shot.


If he is truly passionate, you may want to try training outside of the club. I find club training is good for team tactics, but less so for individual ball handling skill.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2018 11:35     Subject: For boys - what is normal ages for them to “peak”?

I am in the same boat OP.
DS plays ASA ADP and wants to move to u10 travel. Problem is he is not one of the best ADP players so I do not see him making travel at all.
It may be a good wake up call for him to work harder if he wants to make it next year; but once you are 2-3 years behind on the training travel teams get he really is going to have to work his ass off; and even the it will be a long shot.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2018 17:48     Subject: For boys - what is normal ages for them to “peak”?

Anonymous wrote:“Peak” I know is an oxymoron as you can cantinue to improve most of your life; but I am more curious as to what is the “golden era” for boys to improve the most.
I know in Europe they start their club selections for elite around age 11 or 12; so do boys really set themselves apart from 9-11?
Is it common for an average player to all of the sudden morph into an excellent player (assuming athleticism and coaching) in 2 years?

I assume it is rare; but my average DS LOVES the soccer academy training (we sign up for them not invite kind) and structured camps.

He wants to try out for travel now that he learned they have structured practices with paid coaches. I know, that sounds crazy!
Our rec league is more like a play date meets lord of the flies for practice.
I think it would be a long shot for him to make travel, but i assume some kids have climbed out of rec without natural talent.


How old is your son? I have seen boys climb out of rec with varying levels of success, based on their natural ability and also their dedication to hard work. I even know of a boy who used to play tennis. He then decided to switch to soccer and made his way onto a travel team. However, he won't be able to go from rec to DA, obviously. He could make a decent classic program or a smaller program as his first leg up. If he's truly passionate, works hard and has some natural ability, he does stand a chance You might consider some privates to get him off the ground as far as personal touch and technique are concerned.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2018 15:15     Subject: For boys - what is normal ages for them to “peak”?

Anonymous wrote:The truth is you really know nothing about kids until after puberty.

And as for worrying about not making a travel team, well, don't.
None of the bigger teams can resist taking your money. They might put you on the 6th team, but they'll put you somewhere.


Which is why I just can't handle my younger son's U11 parents at present. They all think 'this is it', their kid is THE star. I have older children and see how it usually turns out...
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2018 14:35     Subject: For boys - what is normal ages for them to “peak”?

The truth is you really know nothing about kids until after puberty.

And as for worrying about not making a travel team, well, don't.
None of the bigger teams can resist taking your money. They might put you on the 6th team, but they'll put you somewhere.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2018 13:19     Subject: For boys - what is normal ages for them to “peak”?

Anonymous wrote:“Peak” I know is an oxymoron as you can cantinue to improve most of your life; but I am more curious as to what is the “golden era” for boys to improve the most.
I know in Europe they start their club selections for elite around age 11 or 12; so do boys really set themselves apart from 9-11?
Is it common for an average player to all of the sudden morph into an excellent player (assuming athleticism and coaching) in 2 years?

I assume it is rare; but my average DS LOVES the soccer academy training (we sign up for them not invite kind) and structured camps.

He wants to try out for travel now that he learned they have structured practices with paid coaches. I know, that sounds crazy!
Our rec league is more like a play date meets lord of the flies for practice.
I think it would be a long shot for him to make travel, but i assume some kids have climbed out of rec without natural talent.


European academies start at U9.

"Boys" don't peak. Male soccer players tend to peak in their upper twenties.

Encourage your kid to try out for travel. He doesn't have to be elite. If he's average, but motivated to improve, there will be a team for him. There are many levels of travel, some not much higher than rec in terms of talent level, but the coaching and overall focus of the players tends to be better, and it sounds like that's what your son is looking for. Go to some clubs with multiple teams in his age group. That will give him the best chance at being placed at the appropriate level.

Good luck.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2018 11:52     Subject: Re:For boys - what is normal ages for them to “peak”?

I'm not sure "peak" is the right word here. I'd say your focus should be on helping your son get the training/practice he needs to develop excellent foot skills as a young player, and then, if he keeps working, he'll have plenty of options regardless of when he reaches physical maturity. I have always heard from coaches that the prime years for skill and touch development are 8-12.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2018 11:46     Subject: For boys - what is normal ages for them to “peak”?

I would hesitate to put a number on it...But, yes, absolutely I (former coach, D2 player) have seen average players morph in two years of excellent training! Very, very common!
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2018 11:28     Subject: For boys - what is normal ages for them to “peak”?

“Peak” I know is an oxymoron as you can cantinue to improve most of your life; but I am more curious as to what is the “golden era” for boys to improve the most.
I know in Europe they start their club selections for elite around age 11 or 12; so do boys really set themselves apart from 9-11?
Is it common for an average player to all of the sudden morph into an excellent player (assuming athleticism and coaching) in 2 years?

I assume it is rare; but my average DS LOVES the soccer academy training (we sign up for them not invite kind) and structured camps.

He wants to try out for travel now that he learned they have structured practices with paid coaches. I know, that sounds crazy!
Our rec league is more like a play date meets lord of the flies for practice.
I think it would be a long shot for him to make travel, but i assume some kids have climbed out of rec without natural talent.