Anonymous
09/22/2018 17:38
Subject: Italy ending Child Support and redefining divorce laws
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.
How so? Court-appointed split of calendar year or intervals of time shared. Seems pretty simple to implement. Also gives both parents a chance to see their children.
I don’t think it’s in the best interests of the kids.
Why? You think depriving them of equal time with either of their parents is good for their development?
In every case I’ve seen one parent is better.
Anonymous
09/22/2018 17:35
Subject: Italy ending Child Support and redefining divorce laws
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.
How so? Court-appointed split of calendar year or intervals of time shared. Seems pretty simple to implement. Also gives both parents a chance to see their children.
I don’t think it’s in the best interests of the kids.
Divorce is not usually in the best interests of the child.
I disagree with that.
As the pp above stated is depends on the case.
That said this law was clearly written by and for wealthy men. I’m ambivalent, but I will
Say Italy isn’t exactly a shining beacon of sensible, effective legislation, and decision making.
I’m curious to see if this will spread to other countries in Western Europe.
Anonymous
09/22/2018 17:35
Subject: Italy ending Child Support and redefining divorce laws
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.
How so? Court-appointed split of calendar year or intervals of time shared. Seems pretty simple to implement. Also gives both parents a chance to see their children.
I'm divorced and ex-DH and I get along and coparent well. The kid definitely would not like a 50/50 split of time. DH's job is much more inflexible than mine and he works a lot and travels on a regular basis for work. There are also circumstances where both parents can't afford housing in the same neighborhood due to income disparity, which could mean each home is zoned for different schools. I have a bigger home and do the bulk of the after school activities because my house is the base and we don't live right next door to each other. He pays child support. Having that one size fits all policy isn't a good idea. I'm all for that as the starting point, but you have to take into consideration the individual circumstances. My good friend's husband is a consultant who is gone during the week and is home on the weekend. How would the no child support/equal custody rule work there? I would be fine with the equal custody/no child support if we lived in the same neighborhood so we had the same school zone, and if ex-DH had a job where he was home on a regular basis. That just isn't the case.
Usually isn’t the case.
Anonymous
09/22/2018 17:33
Subject: Italy ending Child Support and redefining divorce laws
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.
How so? Court-appointed split of calendar year or intervals of time shared. Seems pretty simple to implement. Also gives both parents a chance to see their children.
I'm divorced and ex-DH and I get along and coparent well. The kid definitely would not like a 50/50 split of time. DH's job is much more inflexible than mine and he works a lot and travels on a regular basis for work. There are also circumstances where both parents can't afford housing in the same neighborhood due to income disparity, which could mean each home is zoned for different schools. I have a bigger home and do the bulk of the after school activities because my house is the base and we don't live right next door to each other. He pays child support. Having that one size fits all policy isn't a good idea. I'm all for that as the starting point, but you have to take into consideration the individual circumstances. My good friend's husband is a consultant who is gone during the week and is home on the weekend. How would the no child support/equal custody rule work there? I would be fine with the equal custody/no child support if we lived in the same neighborhood so we had the same school zone, and if ex-DH had a job where he was home on a regular basis. That just isn't the case.
Anonymous
09/22/2018 17:28
Subject: Italy ending Child Support and redefining divorce laws
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.
How so? Court-appointed split of calendar year or intervals of time shared. Seems pretty simple to implement. Also gives both parents a chance to see their children.
I don’t think it’s in the best interests of the kids.
Divorce is not usually in the best interests of the child.
I disagree with that.
As the pp above stated is depends on the case.
That said this law was clearly written by and for wealthy men. I’m ambivalent, but I will
Say Italy isn’t exactly a shining beacon of sensible, effective legislation, and decision making.
Anonymous
09/22/2018 17:26
Subject: Italy ending Child Support and redefining divorce laws
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.
How so? Court-appointed split of calendar year or intervals of time shared. Seems pretty simple to implement. Also gives both parents a chance to see their children.
I don’t think it’s in the best interests of the kids.
Divorce is not usually in the best interests of the child.
Anonymous
09/22/2018 17:23
Subject: Italy ending Child Support and redefining divorce laws
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.
How so? Court-appointed split of calendar year or intervals of time shared. Seems pretty simple to implement. Also gives both parents a chance to see their children.
I don’t think it’s in the best interests of the kids.
+1. It is very dependent on the situation. Definitely not always good for the child. Each case is different.
Anonymous
09/22/2018 17:18
Subject: Italy ending Child Support and redefining divorce laws
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.
How so? Court-appointed split of calendar year or intervals of time shared. Seems pretty simple to implement. Also gives both parents a chance to see their children.
I don’t think it’s in the best interests of the kids.
Why? You think depriving them of equal time with either of their parents is good for their development?
Anonymous
09/22/2018 17:17
Subject: Italy ending Child Support and redefining divorce laws
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.
How so? Court-appointed split of calendar year or intervals of time shared. Seems pretty simple to implement. Also gives both parents a chance to see their children.
I don’t think it’s in the best interests of the kids.
Anonymous
09/22/2018 17:16
Subject: Italy ending Child Support and redefining divorce laws
Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.
How so? Court-appointed split of calendar year or intervals of time shared. Seems pretty simple to implement. Also gives both parents a chance to see their children.
Anonymous
09/22/2018 17:13
Subject: Italy ending Child Support and redefining divorce laws
I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.
Anonymous
09/22/2018 17:11
Subject: Italy ending Child Support and redefining divorce laws
They also aren’t requiring proof that you vaccinate you school children so I think we should watch how well that goes.
Anonymous
09/22/2018 17:11
Subject: Re:Italy ending Child Support and redefining divorce laws
The entire article is on The Lily. Good points on promoting equal parenting and care.
https://www.thelily.com/italy-wants-to-enforce-perfect-co-parenting-with-new-divorce-laws-critics-say-women-will-lose/
https://www.thelily.com/italy-wants-to-enforce-perfect-co-parenting-with-new-divorce-laws-critics-say-women-will-lose/
Anonymous
09/22/2018 17:01
Subject: Re:Italy ending Child Support and redefining divorce laws
They also restructured alimony last year, so that the receiving spouse only is given enough to support the cost of living but NOT the standard of living during the marriage.
“Divorcees in Italy will no longer have to pay for their exes to maintain the same standard of living as during their marriage, after a 'revolutionary' ruling by the country's top court.
In Wednesday's Court of Cassation ruling, judges "established new parameters" for the calculation of alimony, the court's chief press officer Raffaele Botta said in a statement.
While alimony payments had previously been established with the goal of "maintaining the matrimonial standard of living", the court instead said on Wednesday that payments should be based purely on guaranteeing "the economic independence or self-sufficiency of the spouse who requests it".
In other words, divorcees are likely to receive smaller monthly payments than in the past, particularly in cases where their ex-spouse was wealthy.”
www.thelocal.it/20170511/italian-divorce-law-revolutionary-change-alimony-ex-spouses/amp
“Divorcees in Italy will no longer have to pay for their exes to maintain the same standard of living as during their marriage, after a 'revolutionary' ruling by the country's top court.
In Wednesday's Court of Cassation ruling, judges "established new parameters" for the calculation of alimony, the court's chief press officer Raffaele Botta said in a statement.
While alimony payments had previously been established with the goal of "maintaining the matrimonial standard of living", the court instead said on Wednesday that payments should be based purely on guaranteeing "the economic independence or self-sufficiency of the spouse who requests it".
In other words, divorcees are likely to receive smaller monthly payments than in the past, particularly in cases where their ex-spouse was wealthy.”
www.thelocal.it/20170511/italian-divorce-law-revolutionary-change-alimony-ex-spouses/amp
Anonymous
09/22/2018 16:57
Subject: Italy ending Child Support and redefining divorce laws
Summary: the law proposes the end of child support, equal custody, no bad mouthing the other parent, and each parents covers the expenses of the child when they are talking care of them.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/2018/09/18/italys-proposed-new-divorce-law-would-turn-back-clock-years-womens-rights-critics-say/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/2018/09/18/italys-proposed-new-divorce-law-would-turn-back-clock-years-womens-rights-critics-say/