Anonymous
Post 09/08/2018 08:35     Subject: More than any generation on record, Gen Z wants financial security. - wsj |

Anonymous wrote:Sounds right. Tho as a millennial I also feel depression-era type insecurity.


I feel this as a Gen X-er.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2018 18:45     Subject: Re:More than any generation on record, Gen Z wants financial security. - wsj |

Anonymous wrote:We have 4 Gen Z children, 3 of whom are in college and 1 in high school. Our 5th is in elementary school so I don't think he qualifies as Gen Z.

While I wouldn't call them "scarred" like it says in the article, I do know that they AND THEIR FRIENDS are quite dismissive of the Millennials, and anxious to avoid a whole plethora of attributes that they believe define Millennials. It is interesting because I thought it was just our kids but their friends hold very similar perspectives. None of them drink very much, if at all, and abhor smoking and drugs. They also are much less promiscuous. I can see how this Gen Z generation will prize stability more than anything else. They also are very hard workers.

The major difference I see is in socialization. The Gen Z kids seem much nicer to others and much more concerned about the thoughts and feelings of others, and the impact of their actions. I see a lot of Boomer traits in our kids. I don't think that's a bad thing, actually.


Hmm, I have six Millenials in our family and they are all like this.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2018 18:20     Subject: Re:More than any generation on record, Gen Z wants financial security. - wsj |

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have 4 Gen Z children, 3 of whom are in college and 1 in high school. Our 5th is in elementary school so I don't think he qualifies as Gen Z.

While I wouldn't call them "scarred" like it says in the article, I do know that they AND THEIR FRIENDS are quite dismissive of the Millennials, and anxious to avoid a whole plethora of attributes that they believe define Millennials. It is interesting because I thought it was just our kids but their friends hold very similar perspectives. None of them drink very much, if at all, and abhor smoking and drugs. They also are much less promiscuous. I can see how this Gen Z generation will prize stability more than anything else. They also are very hard workers.

The major difference I see is in socialization. The Gen Z kids seem much nicer to others and much more concerned about the thoughts and feelings of others, and the impact of their actions. I see a lot of Boomer traits in our kids. I don't think that's a bad thing, actually.


This is weird. There are a million articles talking about millenials being the least promiscuous, most uptight sexually generation in recent memory. The current panic is that millenials aren't having kids like they "should be." I don't think they're know to be really into drugs or drinking either. Sure, they like their craft cocktails, but I have never heard they have the reputation of being strung out junkies or alcoholics. Less so than Gen X's reputation by far, at least back when they were the generation being slagged on the regular as the "slacker generation" best depicted in "Dazed and Confused." Similarly, most studies show millenials as caring about others and social issues a lot more than previous generations and the reputation Boomers are knonwn for is, "f*ck you, I got mine!" So basically, Gen Z sounds great, but they sound like a further extension of attitudes of millenials and your generalizations make no sense. At least stereotype right, come on!


My Gen Z kids would be positively repulsed to be called an "extension of attitudes of millennials" and I certainly understand why, especially after reading your post, PP! And they would be very happy to be told they have a lot in common with the Boomers. Go figure.


I'm not a millenial, I just don't get the needless hate for a generation that was roundly screwed by both their Boomer parents and the economy when they were supposed to be launching their lives. Especially thinking the Boomers are so great. And I think it's bizarre for 18 year olds to think 25 year olds are scum and 65 year olds are where it's at. Especially if they care at all about things like protecting the environment, racial and gender equality, or any social justice issues at all. I'm so impressed by so many of them, especially after things like march on Washington after Parkland. Are you saying they're really all like, 'drill baby, drill! de-regulate! jail those kids!" because that's not what I am seeing. Millenial and Gen Z should be a natural alliance overall.


No, my kids think that Millennials don't walk their talk. I don't think you understand Gen Z at all.
Anonymous
Post 09/06/2018 20:49     Subject: Re:More than any generation on record, Gen Z wants financial security. - wsj |

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have 4 Gen Z children, 3 of whom are in college and 1 in high school. Our 5th is in elementary school so I don't think he qualifies as Gen Z.

While I wouldn't call them "scarred" like it says in the article, I do know that they AND THEIR FRIENDS are quite dismissive of the Millennials, and anxious to avoid a whole plethora of attributes that they believe define Millennials. It is interesting because I thought it was just our kids but their friends hold very similar perspectives. None of them drink very much, if at all, and abhor smoking and drugs. They also are much less promiscuous. I can see how this Gen Z generation will prize stability more than anything else. They also are very hard workers.

The major difference I see is in socialization. The Gen Z kids seem much nicer to others and much more concerned about the thoughts and feelings of others, and the impact of their actions. I see a lot of Boomer traits in our kids. I don't think that's a bad thing, actually.


This is weird. There are a million articles talking about millenials being the least promiscuous, most uptight sexually generation in recent memory. The current panic is that millenials aren't having kids like they "should be." I don't think they're know to be really into drugs or drinking either. Sure, they like their craft cocktails, but I have never heard they have the reputation of being strung out junkies or alcoholics. Less so than Gen X's reputation by far, at least back when they were the generation being slagged on the regular as the "slacker generation" best depicted in "Dazed and Confused." Similarly, most studies show millenials as caring about others and social issues a lot more than previous generations and the reputation Boomers are knonwn for is, "f*ck you, I got mine!" So basically, Gen Z sounds great, but they sound like a further extension of attitudes of millenials and your generalizations make no sense. At least stereotype right, come on!


My Gen Z kids would be positively repulsed to be called an "extension of attitudes of millennials" and I certainly understand why, especially after reading your post, PP! And they would be very happy to be told they have a lot in common with the Boomers. Go figure.


I'm not a millenial, I just don't get the needless hate for a generation that was roundly screwed by both their Boomer parents and the economy when they were supposed to be launching their lives. Especially thinking the Boomers are so great. And I think it's bizarre for 18 year olds to think 25 year olds are scum and 65 year olds are where it's at. Especially if they care at all about things like protecting the environment, racial and gender equality, or any social justice issues at all. I'm so impressed by so many of them, especially after things like march on Washington after Parkland. Are you saying they're really all like, 'drill baby, drill! de-regulate! jail those kids!" because that's not what I am seeing. Millenial and Gen Z should be a natural alliance overall.
Anonymous
Post 09/06/2018 20:48     Subject: Re:More than any generation on record, Gen Z wants financial security. - wsj |

Anonymous wrote:We have 4 Gen Z children, 3 of whom are in college and 1 in high school. Our 5th is in elementary school so I don't think he qualifies as Gen Z.

While I wouldn't call them "scarred" like it says in the article, I do know that they AND THEIR FRIENDS are quite dismissive of the Millennials, and anxious to avoid a whole plethora of attributes that they believe define Millennials. It is interesting because I thought it was just our kids but their friends hold very similar perspectives. None of them drink very much, if at all, and abhor smoking and drugs. They also are much less promiscuous. I can see how this Gen Z generation will prize stability more than anything else. They also are very hard workers.

The major difference I see is in socialization. The Gen Z kids seem much nicer to others and much more concerned about the thoughts and feelings of others, and the impact of their actions. I see a lot of Boomer traits in our kids. I don't think that's a bad thing, actually.


I agree. My 18 yo son quickly corrected me when I mistakenly called him a millennial not too long ago
Anonymous
Post 09/06/2018 20:39     Subject: Re:More than any generation on record, Gen Z wants financial security. - wsj |

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have 4 Gen Z children, 3 of whom are in college and 1 in high school. Our 5th is in elementary school so I don't think he qualifies as Gen Z.

While I wouldn't call them "scarred" like it says in the article, I do know that they AND THEIR FRIENDS are quite dismissive of the Millennials, and anxious to avoid a whole plethora of attributes that they believe define Millennials. It is interesting because I thought it was just our kids but their friends hold very similar perspectives. None of them drink very much, if at all, and abhor smoking and drugs. They also are much less promiscuous. I can see how this Gen Z generation will prize stability more than anything else. They also are very hard workers.

The major difference I see is in socialization. The Gen Z kids seem much nicer to others and much more concerned about the thoughts and feelings of others, and the impact of their actions. I see a lot of Boomer traits in our kids. I don't think that's a bad thing, actually.


This is weird. There are a million articles talking about millenials being the least promiscuous, most uptight sexually generation in recent memory. The current panic is that millenials aren't having kids like they "should be." I don't think they're know to be really into drugs or drinking either. Sure, they like their craft cocktails, but I have never heard they have the reputation of being strung out junkies or alcoholics. Less so than Gen X's reputation by far, at least back when they were the generation being slagged on the regular as the "slacker generation" best depicted in "Dazed and Confused." Similarly, most studies show millenials as caring about others and social issues a lot more than previous generations and the reputation Boomers are knonwn for is, "f*ck you, I got mine!" So basically, Gen Z sounds great, but they sound like a further extension of attitudes of millenials and your generalizations make no sense. At least stereotype right, come on!


My Gen Z kids would be positively repulsed to be called an "extension of attitudes of millennials" and I certainly understand why, especially after reading your post, PP! And they would be very happy to be told they have a lot in common with the Boomers. Go figure.
Anonymous
Post 09/06/2018 20:01     Subject: Re:More than any generation on record, Gen Z wants financial security. - wsj |

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have 4 Gen Z children, 3 of whom are in college and 1 in high school. Our 5th is in elementary school so I don't think he qualifies as Gen Z.

While I wouldn't call them "scarred" like it says in the article, I do know that they AND THEIR FRIENDS are quite dismissive of the Millennials, and anxious to avoid a whole plethora of attributes that they believe define Millennials. It is interesting because I thought it was just our kids but their friends hold very similar perspectives. None of them drink very much, if at all, and abhor smoking and drugs. They also are much less promiscuous. I can see how this Gen Z generation will prize stability more than anything else. They also are very hard workers.

The major difference I see is in socialization. The Gen Z kids seem much nicer to others and much more concerned about the thoughts and feelings of others, and the impact of their actions. I see a lot of Boomer traits in our kids. I don't think that's a bad thing, actually.


This is weird. There are a million articles talking about millenials being the least promiscuous, most uptight sexually generation in recent memory. The current panic is that millenials aren't having kids like they "should be." I don't think they're know to be really into drugs or drinking either. Sure, they like their craft cocktails, but I have never heard they have the reputation of being strung out junkies or alcoholics. Less so than Gen X's reputation by far, at least back when they were the generation being slagged on the regular as the "slacker generation" best depicted in "Dazed and Confused." Similarly, most studies show millenials as caring about others and social issues a lot more than previous generations and the reputation Boomers are knonwn for is, "f*ck you, I got mine!" So basically, Gen Z sounds great, but they sound like a further extension of attitudes of millenials and your generalizations make no sense. At least stereotype right, come on!


Anecdotally many Millenials seem to do things more for show (thumbs up! views! here I am at xyz event) than actually caring deeply about causes. (I'm not saying they're all insincere.)
Anonymous
Post 09/06/2018 19:42     Subject: More than any generation on record, Gen Z wants financial security. - wsj |

Welcome to the new world order...where economic inequality coupled with housing insecurity and ridiculous healthcare and childcare costs have prompted hardworking people to be strapped to the point of developing a complex...even when it isn't warranted (I'm talking to you posters who earn $300k and claim to be struggling).

Having said that, this needed to happen. Prior generations came out of college and grad schools saddled with massive self-inflicted student debt and felt entitled to McMansions and fancy cars they couldn't afford.

Now that so many of us are watching our elderly parents struggle with healthcare costs and houses that are falling apart, we realize that we must be frugal. Living below your means and saving for a rainy day is smart.
Anonymous
Post 09/06/2018 17:55     Subject: Re:More than any generation on record, Gen Z wants financial security. - wsj |

Anonymous wrote:We have 4 Gen Z children, 3 of whom are in college and 1 in high school. Our 5th is in elementary school so I don't think he qualifies as Gen Z.

While I wouldn't call them "scarred" like it says in the article, I do know that they AND THEIR FRIENDS are quite dismissive of the Millennials, and anxious to avoid a whole plethora of attributes that they believe define Millennials. It is interesting because I thought it was just our kids but their friends hold very similar perspectives. None of them drink very much, if at all, and abhor smoking and drugs. They also are much less promiscuous. I can see how this Gen Z generation will prize stability more than anything else. They also are very hard workers.

The major difference I see is in socialization. The Gen Z kids seem much nicer to others and much more concerned about the thoughts and feelings of others, and the impact of their actions. I see a lot of Boomer traits in our kids. I don't think that's a bad thing, actually.


This is weird. There are a million articles talking about millenials being the least promiscuous, most uptight sexually generation in recent memory. The current panic is that millenials aren't having kids like they "should be." I don't think they're know to be really into drugs or drinking either. Sure, they like their craft cocktails, but I have never heard they have the reputation of being strung out junkies or alcoholics. Less so than Gen X's reputation by far, at least back when they were the generation being slagged on the regular as the "slacker generation" best depicted in "Dazed and Confused." Similarly, most studies show millenials as caring about others and social issues a lot more than previous generations and the reputation Boomers are knonwn for is, "f*ck you, I got mine!" So basically, Gen Z sounds great, but they sound like a further extension of attitudes of millenials and your generalizations make no sense. At least stereotype right, come on!
Anonymous
Post 09/06/2018 17:39     Subject: More than any generation on record, Gen Z wants financial security. - wsj |

Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/graphics/genz-is-coming-to-your-office/?mod=article_inline?mod=hp_lead_pos6

interesting article.

what are you observing in the work place as gen z enters? Are they markedly different from millenials in your experience?

Early signs suggest Gen Z workers are more competitive and pragmatic, but also more anxious and reserved, than millennials,


The broad result is a scarred generation, cautious and hardened by economic and social turbulence.


“They’re more like children of the 1930s, if children of the 1930s had learned to think, learn and communicate while attached to hand-held supercomputers,”


Gen Z’s attitudes about work reflect a craving for financial security. The share of college freshmen nationwide who prioritize becoming well off rose to around 82% when Gen Z began entering college a few years ago, according to the University of California, Los Angeles. That is the highest level since the school began surveying the subject in 1966. The lowest point was 36% in 1970.


are more willing to work overtime than most millennials,


Gen Z is literally sober. Data from the Michigan survey and federal statistics show they were less likely to have tried alcohol, gotten their driver’s licenses, had sex or gone out regularly without their parents than teens of the previous two or three generations, Ms. Twenge, the San Diego State professor, found.


So if Gen Z values safety and security first - does that mean Gen Z is going to flood the federal job market big time after millenials weren't interested in fed jobs that much?


Stop with all the generation Z, X and Y. There is no such thing! It is all made up people.
Anonymous
Post 09/06/2018 17:37     Subject: Re:More than any generation on record, Gen Z wants financial security. - wsj |

We have 4 Gen Z children, 3 of whom are in college and 1 in high school. Our 5th is in elementary school so I don't think he qualifies as Gen Z.

While I wouldn't call them "scarred" like it says in the article, I do know that they AND THEIR FRIENDS are quite dismissive of the Millennials, and anxious to avoid a whole plethora of attributes that they believe define Millennials. It is interesting because I thought it was just our kids but their friends hold very similar perspectives. None of them drink very much, if at all, and abhor smoking and drugs. They also are much less promiscuous. I can see how this Gen Z generation will prize stability more than anything else. They also are very hard workers.

The major difference I see is in socialization. The Gen Z kids seem much nicer to others and much more concerned about the thoughts and feelings of others, and the impact of their actions. I see a lot of Boomer traits in our kids. I don't think that's a bad thing, actually.
Anonymous
Post 09/06/2018 15:41     Subject: Re:More than any generation on record, Gen Z wants financial security. - wsj |

Anonymous wrote:what are t he ages of Gen Z? I didn’t think they were in the workforce yet.

The oldest would be 23: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z
Anonymous
Post 09/06/2018 15:28     Subject: More than any generation on record, Gen Z wants financial security. - wsj |

Sounds right. Tho as a millennial I also feel depression-era type insecurity.
Anonymous
Post 09/06/2018 15:26     Subject: Re:More than any generation on record, Gen Z wants financial security. - wsj |

what are t he ages of Gen Z? I didn’t think they were in the workforce yet.
Anonymous
Post 09/06/2018 14:42     Subject: More than any generation on record, Gen Z wants financial security. - wsj |

https://www.wsj.com/graphics/genz-is-coming-to-your-office/?mod=article_inline?mod=hp_lead_pos6

interesting article.

what are you observing in the work place as gen z enters? Are they markedly different from millenials in your experience?

Early signs suggest Gen Z workers are more competitive and pragmatic, but also more anxious and reserved, than millennials,


The broad result is a scarred generation, cautious and hardened by economic and social turbulence.


“They’re more like children of the 1930s, if children of the 1930s had learned to think, learn and communicate while attached to hand-held supercomputers,”


Gen Z’s attitudes about work reflect a craving for financial security. The share of college freshmen nationwide who prioritize becoming well off rose to around 82% when Gen Z began entering college a few years ago, according to the University of California, Los Angeles. That is the highest level since the school began surveying the subject in 1966. The lowest point was 36% in 1970.


are more willing to work overtime than most millennials,


Gen Z is literally sober. Data from the Michigan survey and federal statistics show they were less likely to have tried alcohol, gotten their driver’s licenses, had sex or gone out regularly without their parents than teens of the previous two or three generations, Ms. Twenge, the San Diego State professor, found.


So if Gen Z values safety and security first - does that mean Gen Z is going to flood the federal job market big time after millenials weren't interested in fed jobs that much?