Anonymous
08/21/2018 19:02
Subject: GW, SGF, or CCRM at age 42
Hello, can you tell me what CCRM stands for?
Anonymous
08/21/2018 15:56
Subject: GW, SGF, or CCRM at age 42
OP of this thread here. I have now met with GW/Frankfurter and CCRM/Payson and really liked both of them. It's rare to find doctors that really sit and listen. Now I have to choose one, and I see pros and cons to each. What did other posters here choose and why?
Anonymous
08/17/2018 20:15
Subject: GW, SGF, or CCRM at age 42
Wow 13:35 this is me- that's who I'm deciding between!
Anonymous
08/17/2018 15:43
Subject: GW, SGF, or CCRM at age 42
Anonymous wrote:Not the OP, but I’m currently down to either CCRM Payson or GW Frankfurter. 40, DOR
Worried about GW’s low stats. Worried about CCRM’s no stats. But otherwise liked both.
Anyone else have thoughts on who to choose? Or is it sort of “can’t go wrong between the two”?
I don't think you can go wrong. GWU has low stats because they take hard cases, their low numbers aren't a reflection on their skill, but their caseload. I'm a CCRM/Payson patient but I felt very comfortable with Dr. Frankfurter and would have I think picked him over CCRM if he had been able to treat someone that was straight to surrogacy.
Anonymous
08/17/2018 13:35
Subject: GW, SGF, or CCRM at age 42
Not the OP, but I’m currently down to either CCRM Payson or GW Frankfurter. 40, DOR
Worried about GW’s low stats. Worried about CCRM’s no stats. But otherwise liked both.
Anyone else have thoughts on who to choose? Or is it sort of “can’t go wrong between the two”?
Worried about GW’s low stats. Worried about CCRM’s no stats. But otherwise liked both.
Anyone else have thoughts on who to choose? Or is it sort of “can’t go wrong between the two”?
Anonymous
08/09/2018 16:08
Subject: GW, SGF, or CCRM at age 42
OP here. Thanks for the advice!!
Anonymous
08/08/2018 22:55
Subject: GW, SGF, or CCRM at age 42
PP 20:11, did you have success with GW or CCRM? Or feel one approach vs the other was better (i.e. GW not being a fan of PGS whereas CCRM is etc)?
Anonymous
08/08/2018 22:54
Subject: GW, SGF, or CCRM at age 42
Skip SG. I'm currently deciding between CCRM and GW, so can't help you there.
Anonymous
08/08/2018 20:11
Subject: Re:GW, SGF, or CCRM at age 42
Anonymous wrote:I've worked with or done consults with all three.
If you want to take one off of your list, I'd remove Osborn/SGF. The least adventurous in terms of trying new protocols or approaches and at 42, you are going to want someone who will be willing to do - or at least look at - every possible path to getting you pregnant.
I found that Payson and Frankfurter have very different points of view - but was impressed by both of them.
Frankfurter was extremely research and data driven. In my case, he was skeptical that 40+ women who produce a limited number of blasts should do PGS. He thinks it risks ruling out embryos that have potential to become normal or harming the embryos. He's also really detail-oriented. He was the only consult I did that read literally my entire file and found things I hadn't noticed.
Payson is backed by a CCRM-Denver-trained lab and collaborates with other CCRM doctors. If you know CCRM's national reputation, you know this is a big plus. As is most of CCRM, he is a big believer in PGS (or CCS testing as they call it) and they do it themselves, claiming they have a lower mosaic rate/rule in more good embryos than others. He was willing to try adding things like human growth hormone to protocols too.
Both CCRM and GWU are smaller than SGF with more direct access to the REs. I'd meet with both of them and make a call based on whose philosophy you trust most.
This seems like good advice. SGF kicked me out at 42.
Anonymous
08/08/2018 20:01
Subject: Re:GW, SGF, or CCRM at age 42
I've worked with or done consults with all three.
If you want to take one off of your list, I'd remove Osborn/SGF. The least adventurous in terms of trying new protocols or approaches and at 42, you are going to want someone who will be willing to do - or at least look at - every possible path to getting you pregnant.
I found that Payson and Frankfurter have very different points of view - but was impressed by both of them.
Frankfurter was extremely research and data driven. In my case, he was skeptical that 40+ women who produce a limited number of blasts should do PGS. He thinks it risks ruling out embryos that have potential to become normal or harming the embryos. He's also really detail-oriented. He was the only consult I did that read literally my entire file and found things I hadn't noticed.
Payson is backed by a CCRM-Denver-trained lab and collaborates with other CCRM doctors. If you know CCRM's national reputation, you know this is a big plus. As is most of CCRM, he is a big believer in PGS (or CCS testing as they call it) and they do it themselves, claiming they have a lower mosaic rate/rule in more good embryos than others. He was willing to try adding things like human growth hormone to protocols too.
Both CCRM and GWU are smaller than SGF with more direct access to the REs. I'd meet with both of them and make a call based on whose philosophy you trust most.
If you want to take one off of your list, I'd remove Osborn/SGF. The least adventurous in terms of trying new protocols or approaches and at 42, you are going to want someone who will be willing to do - or at least look at - every possible path to getting you pregnant.
I found that Payson and Frankfurter have very different points of view - but was impressed by both of them.
Frankfurter was extremely research and data driven. In my case, he was skeptical that 40+ women who produce a limited number of blasts should do PGS. He thinks it risks ruling out embryos that have potential to become normal or harming the embryos. He's also really detail-oriented. He was the only consult I did that read literally my entire file and found things I hadn't noticed.
Payson is backed by a CCRM-Denver-trained lab and collaborates with other CCRM doctors. If you know CCRM's national reputation, you know this is a big plus. As is most of CCRM, he is a big believer in PGS (or CCS testing as they call it) and they do it themselves, claiming they have a lower mosaic rate/rule in more good embryos than others. He was willing to try adding things like human growth hormone to protocols too.
Both CCRM and GWU are smaller than SGF with more direct access to the REs. I'd meet with both of them and make a call based on whose philosophy you trust most.
Anonymous
08/08/2018 17:41
Subject: Re:GW, SGF, or CCRM at age 42
I don't think you can go wrong with either GWU/Frankfurter or CCRM/Payson. I'm a current patient of Dr. Payson and am halfway through my 3rd IVF cycle at CCRM and the care and level of personalized attention I have received has been amazing. My nurse is incredible, and I feel lucky to be in their care. If you have any specific questions let me know. I also met with Dr. Frankfurter but since I'm straight to surrogacy they can't treat me.
Anonymous
08/08/2018 17:18
Subject: GW, SGF, or CCRM at age 42
CCRM.
Anonymous
08/08/2018 16:24
Subject: GW, SGF, or CCRM at age 42
Thanks--why do you think she was not helpful? I am tempted to cut SG from my list and compare GW and CCRM, but that's really based on DCUM chat, since I haven't shared my infertility issues with anyone IRL. 
Anonymous
08/08/2018 16:20
Subject: GW, SGF, or CCRM at age 42
Anonymous wrote:I can get in to see doctors at these offices within the next 2-3 weeks, so I have to pick one (or two). Time is of the essence since I'm 42. I have conceived easily in the past but had a recent MC and don't know how many good eggs are there, though my numbers are good--I have posted about the previously. I'd see Frankfurter at GW, Osborne at SG, and Payson at CCRM. I know there are tons of threads about this--I've been reading them--but it's still hard to choose. I think going to three initial meetings is too much. TIA.
Skip Dr. Osborne. She is very nice but I regret seeing her when I was 40-41. I should have seen Dr. Widra but went with first available and then I tried switching to another doctor at SG but was unable to, so kept seeing her, compounding my mistake, until I eventually went elsewhere.
Anonymous
08/08/2018 15:59
Subject: GW, SGF, or CCRM at age 42
I can get in to see doctors at these offices within the next 2-3 weeks, so I have to pick one (or two). Time is of the essence since I'm 42. I have conceived easily in the past but had a recent MC and don't know how many good eggs are there, though my numbers are good--I have posted about the previously. I'd see Frankfurter at GW, Osborne at SG, and Payson at CCRM. I know there are tons of threads about this--I've been reading them--but it's still hard to choose. I think going to three initial meetings is too much. TIA.