Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TP wants the tax revenue that businesses generate, which hugely exceeds residential.

They know how to speak in the platitudes their dumbed-down, Kool-aide swilling citizens like hearing: walkable communities, car free living, etc..... but when it comes to putting money in the town piggybank, they know what they really need in place. And it ain't 40 units of mixed income apartments.

WTF are you talking about?

A mixed use building would have ground floor retail so even a modest residential building of 5-6 stories would likely generate far more in taxes from 5 stories of residential compared to 1 story of retail (in this case the 2nd floor).

Apparently I DO know what I'm talking about, because my scenario is what's getting built... and yours isn't. So that sorta proves WTF I'm talking about.

The result in this case does not in any way prove your point. Less than optimal things get built for all sorts of reasons - the zoning, neighborhood opposition, lot size, available financing, politics, market demand, what the owner wants to do or needs on the lot etc. But you love to make speculative assumptions.

So you're basically saying "just because I'm right, it doesn't mean I'm right"

Lolz.

Ok, whatever you have to tell yourself to make life bearable.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TP wants the tax revenue that businesses generate, which hugely exceeds residential.

They know how to speak in the platitudes their dumbed-down, Kool-aide swilling citizens like hearing: walkable communities, car free living, etc..... but when it comes to putting money in the town piggybank, they know what they really need in place. And it ain't 40 units of mixed income apartments.

WTF are you talking about?

A mixed use building would have ground floor retail so even a modest residential building of 5-6 stories would likely generate far more in taxes from 5 stories of residential compared to 1 story of retail (in this case the 2nd floor).

Apparently I DO know what I'm talking about, because my scenario is what's getting built... and yours isn't. So that sorta proves WTF I'm talking about.

The result in this case does not in any way prove your point. Less than optimal things get built for all sorts of reasons - the zoning, neighborhood opposition, lot size, available financing, politics, market demand, what the owner wants to do or needs on the lot etc. But you love to make speculative assumptions.

LOL. Scroll down to see where houses are not being built...

https://ggwash.org/view/68435/heres-where-montgomery-county-is-and-isnt-growing

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:two stories right next to a metro. that is shameful

It’s not next to the metro, but as a former Takoma Park resident myself,, I find the opposition puzzling. That area could use some sprucing up and additional businesses for residents to walk to. Guess there will always be some people that feel the need to complain about everything.....

Its a 9 minute bus ride to the metro station (1.3 miles away). They should be putting in at least 100 apartments there to help combat the county's affordable housing crisis.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Takoma+Station,+327+Cedar+St+NW,+Washington,+DC+20012/Carroll+Ave,+Maryland/@38.9793576,-77.0131008,16z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c884a4be7d03:0xc5ab7e7ce2b65943!2m2!1d-77.0178215!2d38
.9754873!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c61902f64801:0x525972fc8f1f27c3!2m2!1d-76.9996254!2d38.9841093!4e1

My mistake. Its a 6 minute busride or a 0.7 mile stroll to the metro.

What a wasted opportunity.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Takoma+Station,+327+Cedar+St+NW,+Washington,+DC+20012/Takoma+Park-Silver+Spring+Food+Co-op,+201+Ethan+Allen+Ave,+Takoma+Park,+MD+20912/@38.9781263,-77.0140734,17z/data=!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c884a4be7d03:0xc5ab7e7ce2b65943!2m2!1d-77.0178215!2d38.9754873!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c6268d9fae6f:0xd25e2b55699b9d15!2m2!1d-77.005948!2d38.9778868!4e1

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:two stories right next to a metro. that is shameful

It’s not next to the metro, but as a former Takoma Park resident myself,, I find the opposition puzzling. That area could use some sprucing up and additional businesses for residents to walk to. Guess there will always be some people that feel the need to complain about everything.....

Its a 9 minute bus ride to the metro station (1.3 miles away). They should be putting in at least 100 apartments there to help combat the county's affordable housing crisis.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Takoma+Station,+327+Cedar+St+NW,+Washington,+DC+20012/Carroll+Ave,+Maryland/@38.9793576,-77.0131008,16z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c884a4be7d03:0xc5ab7e7ce2b65943!2m2!1d-77.0178215!2d38.9754873!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c61902f64801:0x525972fc8f1f27c3!2m2!1d-76.9996254!2d38.9841093!4e1

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TP wants the tax revenue that businesses generate, which hugely exceeds residential.

They know how to speak in the platitudes their dumbed-down, Kool-aide swilling citizens like hearing: walkable communities, car free living, etc..... but when it comes to putting money in the town piggybank, they know what they really need in place. And it ain't 40 units of mixed income apartments.

WTF are you talking about?

A mixed use building would have ground floor retail so even a modest residential building of 5-6 stories would likely generate far more in taxes from 5 stories of residential compared to 1 story of retail (in this case the 2nd floor).

Apparently I DO know what I'm talking about, because my scenario is what's getting built... and yours isn't. So that sorta proves WTF I'm talking about.

Anonymous wrote:TP wants the tax revenue that businesses generate, which hugely exceeds residential.

They know how to speak in the platitudes their dumbed-down, Kool-aide swilling citizens like hearing: walkable communities, car free living, etc..... but when it comes to putting money in the town piggybank, they know what they really need in place. And it ain't 40 units of mixed income apartments.

WTF are you talking about?

A mixed use building would have ground floor retail so even a modest residential building of 5-6 stories would likely generate far more in taxes from 5 stories of residential compared to 1 story of retail (in this case the 2nd floor).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:two stories right next to a metro. that is shameful

It’s not next to the metro, but as a former Takoma Park resident myself,, I find the opposition puzzling. That area could use some sprucing up and additional businesses for residents to walk to. Guess there will always be some people that feel the need to complain about everything.....

+1. Tho speaking of development next to the metro, does anyone know wth is going on with that? I feel like the last update was from 5 years ago. I thought the developer had cleared a lot of hurdles back then so I’m really puzzled as to why NOTHING has happened since. The TKPK crazies will come out in force against this too I’m sure but they have somewhat less sway since the development will be wholly on the DC side.

TP wants the tax revenue that businesses generate, which hugely exceeds residential.

They know how to speak in the platitudes their dumbed-down, Kool-aide swilling citizens like hearing: walkable communities, car free living, etc..... but when it comes to putting money in the town piggybank, they know what they really need in place. And it ain't 40 units of mixed income apartments.

Anonymous wrote:two stories right next to a metro. that is shameful

It’s not next to the metro, but as a former Takoma Park resident myself,, I find the opposition puzzling. That area could use some sprucing up and additional businesses for residents to walk to. Guess there will always be some people that feel the need to complain about everything.....

two stories right next to a metro. that is shameful

Anonymous wrote:You would think all those clamouring to build more housing near the metro would want to include residential here. NOPE.

Note the intense scrutiny given to this project while residential anthills are routinely approved at a glance in other areas of the county (including upcounty and other locations far from the metro).


From the WP:


The Takoma Park City Council has voted 5 to 2 to send a controversial proposal for a city-owned parking lot to the Montgomery County Planning Department for review.

The proposal by District-based Neighborhood Development Co. would build office space above stores, a coffee shop and restaurants on the 1.4-acre site on Carroll Avenue, next to the Takoma Park Silver Spring Co-op.

In a meeting that began Wednesday night and stretched into the wee hours of Thursday morning, the council added a few modifications to the plan, including a second elevator and increased space between the building and the co-op. It introduced the possibility of reducing the height of the building by up to 5 feet, and it added a clause that would prioritize local and regional businesses, not chain stores, as tenants.

I am sure they would, but this development is still better than a parking lot.

You would think all those clamouring to build more housing near the metro would want to include residential here. NOPE.

Note the intense scrutiny given to this project while residential anthills are routinely approved at a glance in other areas of the county (including upcounty and other locations far from the metro).


From the WP:


The Takoma Park City Council has voted 5 to 2 to send a controversial proposal for a city-owned parking lot to the Montgomery County Planning Department for review.

The proposal by District-based Neighborhood Development Co. would build office space above stores, a coffee shop and restaurants on the 1.4-acre site on Carroll Avenue, next to the Takoma Park Silver Spring Co-op.

In a meeting that began Wednesday night and stretched into the wee hours of Thursday morning, the council added a few modifications to the plan, including a second elevator and increased space between the building and the co-op. It introduced the possibility of reducing the height of the building by up to 5 feet, and it added a clause that would prioritize local and regional businesses, not chain stores, as tenants.