Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The trouble is that you might end up having a child with one of those fair to poor embryos. And that child might have significant mental/physical/emotional challenges. If your desire to have a child is greater than your fear of raising a severely disabled one, then go ahead. Because it's not just the idea that it won't take that you have to consider, it's the fact that perhaps the reason they are poor embryos is because they won't make very great persons. The clinic won't tell you this because obviously any baby is a good baby for them - but for you, it's potentially the next sixty years of your life caring for someone who doesn't function well.

No.
There is no correlation between embryo quality and whether or not that embryo is genetically normal. Of my 7 "excellent" day 5 blasts, only 3 of them were PGS normal. Likewise, I know quite a few people with lower quality embryos that resulted in successful pregnancies.

Anonymous wrote:Long story not as long - Severe DOR, currently 39 with 2 year old DD. Took 3 fresh cycles to get DD at 36. She was a fresh transfer of two day 3 embryos, so untested. We did this because none of my embryos ever make it blast.
Here is how my last 12 months of TTC have gone since then - we’ve done two estrogen priming cycles that resulted in 10 frozen day 3 embryos. I was 37 and 38 during those freeze alls. I had full ivf coverage thru work during this time (not any more)

Nov 2014 - natural conception resulted in MC at 7 weeks
Mar 2015 - first IVF cancelled poor response
changed clinics
Oct 2015 - 11 R/9 Fert - nothing to blast, no transfer
Dec 2015 - 12 R/9 Fert - nothing to blast, no transfer
Jan 2016 - 10R / 9F - transferred two 8 celled day three embryos - DD
Apr 2017 - 4 day three embryos frozen
Oct 2017 - 6 day three embryos frozen
Jan 2018 - transferred 2 “perfect” 8 celled embryos. - BFN
Feb 2018 - trabsferred 2 “perfect” 8 cells and 1 fair 7 cell - BFN
June 2018 - natural conception resulted in MC at 6 weeks.

Now we are here. 5 day three embryos left in the freezer - all “fair to poor”. We can save up enough to pay for one FET of the embryos (we’d probably transfer two or three) but is that just stupid? If the “perfect” ones don’t take why would the others? We don’t have the option to cycle again so i’m torn and just don’t want to waste money that we could put towards something else. The last few months I have been overwhelmed with I guess “baby fever” and am sad that the road feels like it’s over.

My last numbers earlier this year at 38.5 were .2 AMH, 7 FSH estrogen 42

Do we just give up on #2?

Anonymous wrote:The trouble is that you might end up having a child with one of those fair to poor embryos. And that child might have significant mental/physical/emotional challenges. If your desire to have a child is greater than your fear of raising a severely disabled one, then go ahead. Because it's not just the idea that it won't take that you have to consider, it's the fact that perhaps the reason they are poor embryos is because they won't make very great persons. The clinic won't tell you this because obviously any baby is a good baby for them - but for you, it's potentially the next sixty years of your life caring for someone who doesn't function well.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The trouble is that you might end up having a child with one of those fair to poor embryos. And that child might have significant mental/physical/emotional challenges. If your desire to have a child is greater than your fear of raising a severely disabled one, then go ahead. Because it's not just the idea that it won't take that you have to consider, it's the fact that perhaps the reason they are poor embryos is because they won't make very great persons. The clinic won't tell you this because obviously any baby is a good baby for them - but for you, it's potentially the next sixty years of your life caring for someone who doesn't function well.

This is totally not true. First of all the normal genetic testing would be done — there is no correlation between visual ivf “quality” and mentally disabled children. This is complete BS.
It’s much more likely that the embryos won’t implant or result in MC.

Anonymous wrote:The trouble is that you might end up having a child with one of those fair to poor embryos. And that child might have significant mental/physical/emotional challenges. If your desire to have a child is greater than your fear of raising a severely disabled one, then go ahead. Because it's not just the idea that it won't take that you have to consider, it's the fact that perhaps the reason they are poor embryos is because they won't make very great persons. The clinic won't tell you this because obviously any baby is a good baby for them - but for you, it's potentially the next sixty years of your life caring for someone who doesn't function well.

Anonymous wrote:The trouble is that you might end up having a child with one of those fair to poor embryos. And that child might have significant mental/physical/emotional challenges. If your desire to have a child is greater than your fear of raising a severely disabled one, then go ahead. Because it's not just the idea that it won't take that you have to consider, it's the fact that perhaps the reason they are poor embryos is because they won't make very great persons. The clinic won't tell you this because obviously any baby is a good baby for them - but for you, it's potentially the next sixty years of your life caring for someone who doesn't function well.

Anonymous wrote:Are the frozen embryos PGS tested?