Anonymous
Post 07/23/2018 21:44     Subject: New thread for the OIG request for 3 years of residency data for all schools
It's not just DCPS, I know residency cheaters at Breakthrough, Bridges and Bethune.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2018 21:44     Subject: New thread for the OIG request for 3 years of residency data for all schools
Anonymous wrote:All OIG has asked for so far is student info - and any tuition payments from OSSE for 3 years.

No requests have been made of any other agencies.


How do you know? They mat have blanket data sharing agreements.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2018 21:42     Subject: Re:New thread for the OIG request for 3 years of residency data for all schools
Anonymous wrote:They can also check the data against itself. So if family X is using an address for their kids, and so is family Y, it should trigger a deeper look. Same thing if one address (a single family residence) has 10 kids using it.


I think this is what they are going to do -- and maybe look at people whose addresses have changed from year to year.

They are probably going to take a swipe at OSSE for not enforcing tuition payments, and make some recommendations for a better process.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2018 21:37     Subject: Re:New thread for the OIG request for 3 years of residency data for all schools
They can also check the data against itself. So if family X is using an address for their kids, and so is family Y, it should trigger a deeper look. Same thing if one address (a single family residence) has 10 kids using it.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2018 21:16     Subject: New thread for the OIG request for 3 years of residency data for all schools
All OIG has asked for so far is student info - and any tuition payments from OSSE for 3 years.

No requests have been made of any other agencies.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2018 21:14     Subject: New thread for the OIG request for 3 years of residency data for all schools
Anonymous wrote:I'd be interested in hearing folks speculate on the methodology the OIG might use to do this investigation. It seems to me that the Office of Tax and Revenue is the only city agency that would have independent records of a guardian/child relationship plus a claimed DC resident status where addresses could be verified/checked.

The data from the schools will necessarily only have one parent name, which could change year to year (depending on who fills out the residency forms). Connecting the parent/child name from the school to some other city records (using address?) seems really time/labor intensive.


Child welfare would have some address and guardianship records for both children and adults.

Child Support maintains a lot of parent-child relationship records so they can get the right payments to the right people. They may have parental addresses as well.

Medicaid has a ton of data on families.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2018 21:12     Subject: New thread for the OIG request for 3 years of residency data for all schools
I'd be interested in hearing folks speculate on the methodology the OIG might use to do this investigation. It seems to me that the Office of Tax and Revenue is the only city agency that would have independent records of a guardian/child relationship plus a claimed DC resident status where addresses could be verified/checked.

The data from the schools will necessarily only have one parent name, which could change year to year (depending on who fills out the residency forms). Connecting the parent/child name from the school to some other city records (using address?) seems really time/labor intensive.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2018 21:02     Subject: New thread for the OIG request for 3 years of residency data for all schools
I'm not afraid of assumptions since I'm doing nothing wrong. I've been asked whose address I was using.
The school wanted to put my kid in Esol class based on how I speak English.
They made him "poor" without asking me and his 5s on Parcc make the school look good. A little off topic, but they do strange things. Too many assumptions. Just look at my taxes. City should have them.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2018 20:55     Subject: New thread for the OIG request for 3 years of residency data for all schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The gigantic number of MD license plates dropping off at schools located in proximity to federal and city office buildings.


I hate this ... our after school babysitter lives in MD (we live close to the MD border) and it makes me nervous that nervous busy bodies will be making assumptions. When I pick up, I use the metro most often since we only have one car.


Would it really be hard for you to persuade them of your residency? It seems like they are pretty flexible about what you show them.


No. Of course not. And since we are in PreK we've had home visits, etc. So, it's not a question for our family. But when ppl. start making assumptions based on plates, it starts seeming like they are pretty weak assumptions.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2018 20:53     Subject: New thread for the OIG request for 3 years of residency data for all schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The gigantic number of MD license plates dropping off at schools located in proximity to federal and city office buildings.


I hate this ... our after school babysitter lives in MD (we live close to the MD border) and it makes me nervous that nervous busy bodies will be making assumptions. When I pick up, I use the metro most often since we only have one car.


Would it really be hard for you to persuade them of your residency? It seems like they are pretty flexible about what you show them.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2018 20:50     Subject: New thread for the OIG request for 3 years of residency data for all schools
Anonymous wrote:The gigantic number of MD license plates dropping off at schools located in proximity to federal and city office buildings.


I hate this ... our after school babysitter lives in MD (we live close to the MD border) and it makes me nervous that nervous busy bodies will be making assumptions. When I pick up, I use the metro most often since we only have one car.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2018 20:08     Subject: New thread for the OIG request for 3 years of residency data for all schools
I'm all for it if I had any confidence they could execute this effectively and accurately. However...
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2018 20:05     Subject: New thread for the OIG request for 3 years of residency data for all schools
The gigantic number of MD license plates dropping off at schools located in proximity to federal and city office buildings.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2018 19:29     Subject: New thread for the OIG request for 3 years of residency data for all schools
The Ellington scandal + the suspicion that it is a broader and deeper problem affecting many schools.



Anonymous
Post 07/23/2018 19:14     Subject: New thread for the OIG request for 3 years of residency data for all schools
Did everyone see the letter from the OIG requesting three years of data from OSSE for all DCPS and PCS schools? https://oig.dc.gov/release/engagement-letter-evaluation-osse-student-residency

I wonder if anything specific precipitated the investigation.