Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, wouldn't getting Iranian troops out of Syria be bad for *us*, not Russia? Wouldn't that be good for Putin/Assad?

It would be good for Israel. Probably. Maybe. It would be good for Russia.

In the short term. I think the strategy of relying on Moscow and pissing off the EU is terrible for Israel, long term.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, wouldn't getting Iranian troops out of Syria be bad for *us*, not Russia? Wouldn't that be good for Putin/Assad?

It would be good for Israel. Probably. Maybe. It would be good for Russia.

Anonymous wrote:

The deal is to let Russia have eastern Ukraine AND Crimea, it appears, in return for getting Iranian troops out of Southern Syria. I had previously heard ALL of Syria, but I guess our master negotiator couldnt get even that. It would of course be impossible to enforce, and would be a disaster for us in eastern europe.

Source?


I don't like letting Russia have eastern Ukraine and Crimea--but, isn't that pretty much what they already have done? For the last few years? Wouldn't getting Russian troops out of Syria be a plus? A step in the right direction?

Wouldn't it have been better had the prior administration done something when this first happened?

Anonymous wrote:Wait, wouldn't getting Iranian troops out of Syria be bad for *us*, not Russia? Wouldn't that be good for Putin/Assad?

Anonymous wrote:Wait, wouldn't getting Iranian troops out of Syria be bad for *us*, not Russia? Wouldn't that be good for Putin/Assad?

Anonymous wrote:

The deal is to let Russia have eastern Ukraine AND Crimea, it appears, in return for getting Iranian troops out of Southern Syria. I had previously heard ALL of Syria, but I guess our master negotiator couldnt get even that. It would of course be impossible to enforce, and would be a disaster for us in eastern europe.

Source?


I don't like letting Russia have eastern Ukraine and Crimea--but, isn't that pretty much what they already have done? For the last few years? Wouldn't getting Russian troops out of Syria be a plus? A step in the right direction?

Wouldn't it have been better had the prior administration done something when this first happened?

The deal is to let Russia have eastern Ukraine AND Crimea, it appears, in return for getting Iranian troops out of Southern Syria. I had previously heard ALL of Syria, but I guess our master negotiator couldnt get even that. It would of course be impossible to enforce, and would be a disaster for us in eastern europe.

Anonymous wrote:https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/putin-tells-russian-state-tv-trump-gave-interesting-offer-ukraine-discussed-getting-around-sanctions/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Matthew Rojansky, Director of the Wilson Center’s Kennan Institute, told CNN’s Don Lemon Monday evening that Russian President Vladimir Putin had a lot to say about the two-hour meeting with President Donald Trump.

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They talked about a deal in southern Syria, which would possibly be about pushing Iranian forces out,” he explained. “That this had been pre-agreed with the Israelis. That this would increase security. But in exchange [Bashar al] Assad clearly was going to re-take the country. Putin noted he already had 90 percent of the country.”

They also evidently discussed Ukraine.

“And Putin described something as ‘a very interesting offer,'” Rojansky said. “We don’t actually know of what the offer consisted, but it’s very interesting to me that they discussed Ukraine and Putin said that there is ‘an interesting offer’ there.”

He then said that the “kicker” was that they spoke about sanctions without talking about sanctions.

“So, when asked whether Putin asked for sanctions relief, Putin, of course, as a matter of Russian pride and also, I think, a negotiating tactic, knowing Trump could hand over sanctions relief, he simply says, ‘No but we talked about the interests of our two business communities in increasing economic ties and how we might do that in the current environment.’ So, that’s code for, ‘Yeah, they talked about how to get around sanctions.’ They actually had it as surprisingly substantive conversation. We heard none of it in the press conference,” Rojansky closed.

This clandestine meeting between a Oligarch and and wanna-be is everything against what American has stood for so far. Trump is selling the country and other countries for his personal gain. How long will GOP and trump defenders keep their heads buried in sand?

Russia announced it was ready to pursue agreements reached by Presidents Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump "in the sphere of international security," though the White House and Pentagon would not confirm any agreements had been made or offer any details.

Trump and Putin met for about two hours during their summit in Helsinki with only translators present. It is still not clear what the two men discussed or agreed to during their meeting.

Matthew Rojansky, Director of the Wilson Center’s Kennan Institute, told CNN’s Don Lemon Monday evening that Russian President Vladimir Putin had a lot to say about the two-hour meeting with President Donald Trump.

***

They talked about a deal in southern Syria, which would possibly be about pushing Iranian forces out,” he explained. “That this had been pre-agreed with the Israelis. That this would increase security. But in exchange [Bashar al] Assad clearly was going to re-take the country. Putin noted he already had 90 percent of the country.”

They also evidently discussed Ukraine.

“And Putin described something as ‘a very interesting offer,'” Rojansky said. “We don’t actually know of what the offer consisted, but it’s very interesting to me that they discussed Ukraine and Putin said that there is ‘an interesting offer’ there.”

He then said that the “kicker” was that they spoke about sanctions without talking about sanctions.

“So, when asked whether Putin asked for sanctions relief, Putin, of course, as a matter of Russian pride and also, I think, a negotiating tactic, knowing Trump could hand over sanctions relief, he simply says, ‘No but we talked about the interests of our two business communities in increasing economic ties and how we might do that in the current environment.’ So, that’s code for, ‘Yeah, they talked about how to get around sanctions.’ They actually had it as surprisingly substantive conversation. We heard none of it in the press conference,” Rojansky closed.