Anonymous
Post 07/12/2018 19:11     Subject: Nancy Floreen's hypocrisy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I haven't decided who I'll vote for yet (other than not Ficker) but I don't understand this "party unity" nonsense. I'm a registered Democrat, but I will vote for the best candidate, regardless of party. The idea of party first is one of the major problems in our country today - haven't we all wondered why none of the Republicans in Congress are standing up to Trump? It's because of "party unity" and it's terrible. Life and people don't fit into just 2 categories, and we shouldn't blindly follow someone just because they happen to have a D or an R next to their name.

In fact, as I'm writing this, I'm getting really irked at the Elrich supporters who I've heard making this argument and calling Floreen undemocratic. What in the world is undemocratic about running for office? Like I said, I haven't decided who to vote for (I voted Frick in primary) but this argument is a strike against Elrich for me. He is not entitled to the office. The Democratic process is not being undermined by the inclusion of an independent.


Because if you are a minority, you are getting truly hurt by the Republicans. If you care about minorities and civil rights for all, you’ll vote democrat until we can solidify those rights again for everyone. This is in all offices, not just federal.

It’s not about Elrich specifically.


But Floreen is a Democrat and will enact Democratic policies. The "I" next to her name doesn't change that.



This is county government. County government is primarily concerned with trash pick-up, potholes, permits, and school funding. What are Democratic vs. Republican policies on these issues?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2018 19:08     Subject: Nancy Floreen's hypocrisy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh, and even with Floreen in the mix, Ficker will never win.


+1. And that is why people will feel comfortable voting for floreen. There is no real risk of Ficker winning.


Unless, of course, he does. How confident are you in your prediction? I don't like Elrich either, but that's a risk I'm 100% unwilling to take. I'm planning to vote for Elrich. And yes, Floreen is a hypocrite.


Ficker's ceiling is around 25%. No matter how the rest is divided, there is no way someone else doesn't win. And to avoid the very real risk of Elrich, yes I am willing to accept the very tiny risk of Ficker winning.


Unlikely things happen.

What are three specific things that you are so worried that Elrich would do, if he were county executive?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2018 19:01     Subject: Nancy Floreen's hypocrisy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I haven't decided who I'll vote for yet (other than not Ficker) but I don't understand this "party unity" nonsense. I'm a registered Democrat, but I will vote for the best candidate, regardless of party. The idea of party first is one of the major problems in our country today - haven't we all wondered why none of the Republicans in Congress are standing up to Trump? It's because of "party unity" and it's terrible. Life and people don't fit into just 2 categories, and we shouldn't blindly follow someone just because they happen to have a D or an R next to their name.

In fact, as I'm writing this, I'm getting really irked at the Elrich supporters who I've heard making this argument and calling Floreen undemocratic. What in the world is undemocratic about running for office? Like I said, I haven't decided who to vote for (I voted Frick in primary) but this argument is a strike against Elrich for me. He is not entitled to the office. The Democratic process is not being undermined by the inclusion of an independent.


Because if you are a minority, you are getting truly hurt by the Republicans. If you care about minorities and civil rights for all, you’ll vote democrat until we can solidify those rights again for everyone. This is in all offices, not just federal.

It’s not about Elrich specifically.


But Floreen is a Democrat and will enact Democratic policies. The "I" next to her name doesn't change that.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2018 18:58     Subject: Nancy Floreen's hypocrisy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh, and even with Floreen in the mix, Ficker will never win.


+1. And that is why people will feel comfortable voting for floreen. There is no real risk of Ficker winning.


Unless, of course, he does. How confident are you in your prediction? I don't like Elrich either, but that's a risk I'm 100% unwilling to take. I'm planning to vote for Elrich. And yes, Floreen is a hypocrite.


Ficker's ceiling is around 25%. No matter how the rest is divided, there is no way someone else doesn't win. And to avoid the very real risk of Elrich, yes I am willing to accept the very tiny risk of Ficker winning.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2018 18:48     Subject: Nancy Floreen's hypocrisy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh, and even with Floreen in the mix, Ficker will never win.


+1. And that is why people will feel comfortable voting for floreen. There is no real risk of Ficker winning.


Unless, of course, he does. How confident are you in your prediction? I don't like Elrich either, but that's a risk I'm 100% unwilling to take. I'm planning to vote for Elrich. And yes, Floreen is a hypocrite.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2018 17:09     Subject: Nancy Floreen's hypocrisy

Anonymous wrote:I haven't decided who I'll vote for yet (other than not Ficker) but I don't understand this "party unity" nonsense. I'm a registered Democrat, but I will vote for the best candidate, regardless of party. The idea of party first is one of the major problems in our country today - haven't we all wondered why none of the Republicans in Congress are standing up to Trump? It's because of "party unity" and it's terrible. Life and people don't fit into just 2 categories, and we shouldn't blindly follow someone just because they happen to have a D or an R next to their name.

In fact, as I'm writing this, I'm getting really irked at the Elrich supporters who I've heard making this argument and calling Floreen undemocratic. What in the world is undemocratic about running for office? Like I said, I haven't decided who to vote for (I voted Frick in primary) but this argument is a strike against Elrich for me. He is not entitled to the office. The Democratic process is not being undermined by the inclusion of an independent.


Because if you are a minority, you are getting truly hurt by the Republicans. If you care about minorities and civil rights for all, you’ll vote democrat until we can solidify those rights again for everyone. This is in all offices, not just federal.

It’s not about Elrich specifically.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2018 16:46     Subject: Nancy Floreen's hypocrisy

I haven't decided who I'll vote for yet (other than not Ficker) but I don't understand this "party unity" nonsense. I'm a registered Democrat, but I will vote for the best candidate, regardless of party. The idea of party first is one of the major problems in our country today - haven't we all wondered why none of the Republicans in Congress are standing up to Trump? It's because of "party unity" and it's terrible. Life and people don't fit into just 2 categories, and we shouldn't blindly follow someone just because they happen to have a D or an R next to their name.

In fact, as I'm writing this, I'm getting really irked at the Elrich supporters who I've heard making this argument and calling Floreen undemocratic. What in the world is undemocratic about running for office? Like I said, I haven't decided who to vote for (I voted Frick in primary) but this argument is a strike against Elrich for me. He is not entitled to the office. The Democratic process is not being undermined by the inclusion of an independent.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2018 15:43     Subject: Nancy Floreen's hypocrisy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh, and even with Floreen in the mix, Ficker will never win.


+1. And that is why people will feel comfortable voting for floreen. There is no real risk of Ficker winning.


Famous last words. Didn't Nate Silver have 95% that Hillary Clinton would win.


No, actually. On November 5, he gave her a 76 percent chance to win the popular vote and a 64 percent chance to win the Electoral College.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2018 15:30     Subject: Nancy Floreen's hypocrisy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh, and even with Floreen in the mix, Ficker will never win.


+1. And that is why people will feel comfortable voting for floreen. There is no real risk of Ficker winning.


Famous last words. Didn't Nate Silver have 95% that Hillary Clinton would win.


Montgomery County is completely different politcally than the nation. Here, Dems outnumber Republicans 3-1.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2018 14:59     Subject: Nancy Floreen's hypocrisy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh, and even with Floreen in the mix, Ficker will never win.


+1. And that is why people will feel comfortable voting for floreen. There is no real risk of Ficker winning.


Famous last words. Didn't Nate Silver have 95% that Hillary Clinton would win.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2018 13:50     Subject: Nancy Floreen's hypocrisy

Anonymous wrote:Oh, and even with Floreen in the mix, Ficker will never win.


+1. And that is why people will feel comfortable voting for floreen. There is no real risk of Ficker winning.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2018 13:12     Subject: Nancy Floreen's hypocrisy

Oh, and even with Floreen in the mix, Ficker will never win.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2018 13:11     Subject: Nancy Floreen's hypocrisy

Not sure why you are picking on “Democrats” as a group. Most will support Elrich.

Did you all get this upset when Leggett promised to retire and then went for his 3rd term because he was scared of Doug Duncan running again?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2018 13:08     Subject: Nancy Floreen's hypocrisy

Oh hi Marc.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2018 12:58     Subject: Nancy Floreen's hypocrisy

Nancy Floreen made a facebook post in 2016 calling out Jill Stein voters for being the difference between Hillary and Trump voters in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. She blamed third party candidates for throwing the election to the lunatic republican.

Nancy Floreen has also received over $180,000 career contributions from developer-related corporations. Several of these companies have a common thread with Empower Montgomery.

Empower Montgomery heavily lobbied for the "pro-business" candidates Blair and Krasnow. Blair was listed as a founding member of Empower Montgomery... up until the day he filed to run for office, when his name mysteriously disappeared from this list.

Empower Montgomery's candidate LOST the Democratic primary. Are they now calling the primary a mulligan, making a desperate move because they are terrified of a Progressive County Executive?

Nancy Floreen is on record saying she "took the term limits vote to heart" and wasn't seeking office and planned on retiring. Now, did she change her mind, out of the goodness of her heart, to give third-party independent voters a voice? Since obviously she cared so much about independent third party voters in 2016? Or did Empower Montgomery and its money have something to do with this?

Just wondering.

Also, funny how Democrats love "party unity"... when it's around corporatists....