Anonymous wrote:For the love of god there's nothing wrong with carbs. Eat all the plants you want, including whole fruit (not juice).

What other country on earth is scared of carbs, and has such a big problem with obesity? It's not the carbs. Eat that amazing, nutritious sweet potato. Skip the little debbie cake. You'll be fine.

Eat the sweet potato and the little Debbie cake. But that's it. No more. Portion control. (Other countries have a big problem with obesity too, btw.)

A large study has come out that has found a linear relationship between calories and developing diabetes for post-menopausal women. The more calories in the diet, the more likely to be diabetic, from 1400-1800 calories, irrespective of carbs or macronutrients.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28065634/

For the love of god there's nothing wrong with carbs. Eat all the plants you want, including whole fruit (not juice).

What other country on earth is scared of carbs, and has such a big problem with obesity? It's not the carbs. Eat that amazing, nutritious sweet potato. Skip the little debbie cake. You'll be fine.

I do better (weight wise) watching calories and including carbs than going low-carb. No idea why - I don't think I eat THAT much more low-carb.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone I know who has done keto or atkins, ended up heavier than when they started. That is, they did the low carb thing, lost weight, resumed a semi normal diet (not necessarily how they were eating before, but somewhere in the middle) and then gained weight. That's because keto is not sustainable for 99% of people. It's fine as a crash diet two weeks before an event. It's terrible for losing a large amount of weight, and keeping it off.

Eat food. Lots of plants. Cook. A little bit of everything (not restriction), and move more. That's the path to long term weight loss success, having been there myself - and maintained quite easily and happily.

This. Right here.

This x 1000

The other day I saw a guy with a ketosis bumper sticker on his car and he was definitely chubby.

Anonymous wrote:Everyone I know who has done keto or atkins, ended up heavier than when they started. That is, they did the low carb thing, lost weight, resumed a semi normal diet (not necessarily how they were eating before, but somewhere in the middle) and then gained weight. That's because keto is not sustainable for 99% of people. It's fine as a crash diet two weeks before an event. It's terrible for losing a large amount of weight, and keeping it off.

Eat food. Lots of plants. Cook. A little bit of everything (not restriction), and move more. That's the path to long term weight loss success, having been there myself - and maintained quite easily and happily.

This. I lost 20 lbs and then stopped, started eating lower carb than before but not terribly low carb, and gained back the 20 I'd lost plus put on 10 more lbs SO FAST. Ugh. Never again.

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Anonymous wrote:Screw keto!

It was suggested to me by my doctor to lose 60lbs that I put on while on a medication.

It was never explained to me that being in ketosis means you lose muscle mass. I should have researched more on my own, I suppose.

Anyway. I had awesome muscular legs from years of soccer (played through college) that turned to total flab while on a keto diet. I saw the same change in my arms as well. Yes, I lost the weight but the muscular arms and legs that I had while carrying that extra weight went too.

I’m skinny and jiggly now. Hate it.

I do not know what happened to you.

Ketosis by definition is about burning fat. Did you exercise on your diet?

NP. Keto is well known to cause muscle loss. It is very difficult to gain muscle on a keto diet, hard to keep muscle, and easy to lose it.

Anonymous wrote:Screw keto!

It was suggested to me by my doctor to lose 60lbs that I put on while on a medication.

It was never explained to me that being in ketosis means you lose muscle mass. I should have researched more on my own, I suppose.

Anyway. I had awesome muscular legs from years of soccer (played through college) that turned to total flab while on a keto diet. I saw the same change in my arms as well. Yes, I lost the weight but the muscular arms and legs that I had while carrying that extra weight went too.

I’m skinny and jiggly now. Hate it.

I do not know what happened to you.

Ketosis by definition is about burning fat. Did you exercise on your diet?

Anonymous wrote:Screw keto!

It was suggested to me by my doctor to lose 60lbs that I put on while on a medication.

It was never explained to me that being in ketosis means you lose muscle mass. I should have researched more on my own, I suppose.

Anyway. I had awesome muscular legs from years of soccer (played through college) that turned to total flab while on a keto diet. I saw the same change in my arms as well. Yes, I lost the weight but the muscular arms and legs that I had while carrying that extra weight went too.

I’m skinny and jiggly now. Hate it.

Will you be able to tone your muscles now that you are back to skinny?

Screw keto!

It was suggested to me by my doctor to lose 60lbs that I put on while on a medication.

It was never explained to me that being in ketosis means you lose muscle mass. I should have researched more on my own, I suppose.

Anyway. I had awesome muscular legs from years of soccer (played through college) that turned to total flab while on a keto diet. I saw the same change in my arms as well. Yes, I lost the weight but the muscular arms and legs that I had while carrying that extra weight went too.

I’m skinny and jiggly now. Hate it.

Anonymous wrote:Everyone I know who has done keto or atkins, ended up heavier than when they started. That is, they did the low carb thing, lost weight, resumed a semi normal diet (not necessarily how they were eating before, but somewhere in the middle) and then gained weight. That's because keto is not sustainable for 99% of people. It's fine as a crash diet two weeks before an event. It's terrible for losing a large amount of weight, and keeping it off.

Eat food. Lots of plants. Cook. A little bit of everything (not restriction), and move more. That's the path to long term weight loss success, having been there myself - and maintained quite easily and happily.

This. Right here.

Of course. Aside from a few minor details like water weight from stored glycogen (which you remove eating low carb, the first 5-10 lbs are not fat loss, just water and glycogen loss), a few hormonal differences between individuals, differences in satiety between high fiber foods and low fiber foods and to some degree fatty foods, and the differences between thermal effects of food (e.g. it takes more energy to break down a piece of whole wheat bread compared to cake by a small margin even if they have the same number of calories on the label), weight loss is about energy balance (calories in, calories out). You can eat too many calories on a keto diet, just like any other.

Everyone I know who has done keto or atkins, ended up heavier than when they started. That is, they did the low carb thing, lost weight, resumed a semi normal diet (not necessarily how they were eating before, but somewhere in the middle) and then gained weight. That's because keto is not sustainable for 99% of people. It's fine as a crash diet two weeks before an event. It's terrible for losing a large amount of weight, and keeping it off.

Eat food. Lots of plants. Cook. A little bit of everything (not restriction), and move more. That's the path to long term weight loss success, having been there myself - and maintained quite easily and happily.

Anecdotally, I know of several people who have gotten fat while eating keto. Calories are still important. Don't overeat (fat bombs, fat fasts, etc.).

Just wondering.