Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^

This, folks, is the reason good people leave education.

Good people leave education because of company/office reorganizations? Where do they go that doesn't have company/office reorganizations?

Where did you get that? Good people leave education because of entitled parents.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^

This, folks, is the reason good people leave education.

Good people leave education because of company/office reorganizations? Where do they go that doesn't have company/office reorganizations?

Nearly all of my friends who left education opened their own consultancies.
-NP

Set up a meeting with your school's OSSI supervisor - look on the mcps website, after July 1. They are reorganizing at that time, the one listed there now will not be your schools supervisor on July 1.

Anonymous wrote:^^

This, folks, is the reason good people leave education.

Good people leave education because of company/office reorganizations? Where do they go that doesn't have company/office reorganizations?

Anonymous wrote:Our principal is not well regarded, and in fact is one of the main reasons parents do not engage with the PTA, which is sad, as we struggle to find enough volunteers and people to fill leadership positions. The principal is often very defensive, and non-responsive, and judgmental and even gossipy about parents that speak up.

Realistically, what needs to be done to create a record under which, eventually, there may be enough reason to replace this person?

So, this could be a vicious cycle, where your principal feels defensive because of how parents interact with him/her. You may want to figure out how to engage in a more constructive way. Could you take this person to coffee? Run things by him/her? If you demonstrate some respect/consideration/friendliness, maybe this will obviate the "need" to go get this person fired. I say this because I doubt that it is a simple process and the PTA not liking a principal is not likely to be a material reason to fire him/her. Not responding to hostile emails may be viewed as preferable to that person's manager than the principal fighting fire with fire. And as for engaging in gossip. Isn't that kind of what we're ALL doing here?

However, in the event that the principal does something that rises to the level of firing, you need a good paper trail, documented in real time (think Comey!) and may want to talk to a lawyer or consult with the employee handbook for MCPS to see what they say will get a person fired.

^^ agree, sounds like a major witch hunt and possibly verging on harassment.

Anonymous wrote:Our ES successfully got our principal to leave.

Some factors:

1. It was his first year as principal and first year working in Montgomery County (he was from Ann Arundel County) so he was under review.

2. An excellent and highly talented PTA that crafted an anonymous survey via survey monkey that was issued to the entire staff. It ultimately reflected the discontentment with his leadership and was sent to central office.

3. Staff contacted and worked with the union (not sure how effective it was, but central was aware and it helped reconcile the survey data).

4. A responsive supervising principal who was present and collected data at the right time (a critical PTA meeting).

You sound like a nightmare.

It sounds like your principal never even got a chance.

I hope s/he quit because of your crazy and found a position at a more reasonable school.

Sort of related, but what can you do if teachers are being asked to do shady things, like pass kids so they graduate when they’ve done no work.

Our ES successfully got our principal to leave.

Some factors:

1. It was his first year as principal and first year working in Montgomery County (he was from Ann Arundel County) so he was under review.

2. An excellent and highly talented PTA that crafted an anonymous survey via survey monkey that was issued to the entire staff. It ultimately reflected the discontentment with his leadership and was sent to central office.

3. Staff contacted and worked with the union (not sure how effective it was, but central was aware and it helped reconcile the survey data).

4. A responsive supervising principal who was present and collected data at the right time (a critical PTA meeting).

^^

This, folks, is the reason good people leave education.

The principal has a boss, and you can complain to that person. Of course, they all JUST switched assignments because of the OSSI reorganization so finding out who your principal's boss is is particularly difficult right now. The list of 2017-2018 assignments is online -
www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/clusteradmin/Refresh_2013/OSSI%20Elementary%20School%20Assignments%20by%20Directors%202017-2018(1).pdf

but they are now out of date as each Director is now going to have full clusters (HS, MS, ES) rather than only ES or only secondary schools. I believe they switched June 1. You will probably have to call OSSI and ask them. Try 240-740-3100

Anonymous wrote:Write to the BOE, PTSA, MCCPTA. Document everything. Email him/her about non-responsiveness...your dissatisfaction with his performance..highlight what is lacking in the school - compare what other schools and principals are doing, CC his boss and their bosses. There are many ways to make them seek another position.

Creating a listserv for parents is a great way to document what their experience at the school is like.

YES! And make sure it's anonymous so that you can get to all the gossip!

Anonymous wrote:Write to the BOE, PTSA, MCCPTA. Document everything. Email him/her about non-responsiveness...your dissatisfaction with his performance..highlight what is lacking in the school - compare what other schools and principals are doing, CC his boss and their bosses. There are many ways to make them seek another position.

Creating a listserv for parents is a great way to document what their experience at the school is like.

Don't do this till you leave the school. We disagree on services and needs of our child and they are punitive to the child for any wrongdoing that they would not think twice if another child did (and child learned from copying other kids) and in the report card.

Write to the BOE, PTSA, MCCPTA. Document everything. Email him/her about non-responsiveness...your dissatisfaction with his performance..highlight what is lacking in the school - compare what other schools and principals are doing, CC his boss and their bosses. There are many ways to make them seek another position.

Creating a listserv for parents is a great way to document what their experience at the school is like.

Our principal is not well regarded, and in fact is one of the main reasons parents do not engage with the PTA, which is sad, as we struggle to find enough volunteers and people to fill leadership positions. The principal is often very defensive, and non-responsive, and judgmental and even gossipy about parents that speak up.

Realistically, what needs to be done to create a record under which, eventually, there may be enough reason to replace this person?