Anonymous
03/20/2020 23:41
Subject: [article] Gary R. Allen's Speed of Play
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:First, the article is obvious. Clearly, if kids played more pickup soccer, like they play pickup basketball, we’d have a lot more creative and skilled players to choose from. Duh. But today’s society is very structured for middle and upper class and the poorer class kids with more free unsupervised time aren’t kicking a ball in the streets. They are shooting hoops, playing two-hand touch, or stickball. Well, except for the illegals, but they aren’t going to get recognized due to mainstream sports league avoidance.
Second the article is male-oriented. We’ve produced plenty of world class female players. Why females but not males? Motivation. Lack of financially compelling alternatives for the best female competitors and atheletes (unlike males). Title IX (motivation for females).
So the answer is more basic for males in the US: culture and money. Soccer is not engrained in our culture and it doesn’t pay enough.
No. Travel soccer is very structured. The term “play” should be thought of as experimental. There is no to little unstructured play in travel soccer. It’s not about playing pickup, it’s about training to push kids to think under pressure and solve the box with something beside running fast. Tight spaces play and decision making under pressure vs winning at u12. Its the difference between teaching someone color theory vs give them a paint by numbers coloring book.
The US woman’s game is over reliant on athleticism. We are a big country and will always be able to get the athletes. It’s like a big club playing a smaller club. The top 3-4 players for each side are evenly matched but there is a big drop off after 5 or 6 for the small club. The speed of play is not there on the women’s side either. If you watch the recent ICC Future games and Spain-US game you can see it.
I have no idea what you are talking about with illegals or motivation.
Yes, you do. Culture and money.
Anonymous
03/20/2020 09:44
Subject: Re:[article] Gary R. Allen's Speed of Play
Anonymous wrote:It’s what I’ve always been saying. It’s the reason my kids don’t play for Americans.
LOL
Anonymous
03/20/2020 08:37
Subject: [article] Gary R. Allen's Speed of Play
Anonymous wrote:First, the article is obvious. Clearly, if kids played more pickup soccer, like they play pickup basketball, we’d have a lot more creative and skilled players to choose from. Duh. But today’s society is very structured for middle and upper class and the poorer class kids with more free unsupervised time aren’t kicking a ball in the streets. They are shooting hoops, playing two-hand touch, or stickball. Well, except for the illegals, but they aren’t going to get recognized due to mainstream sports league avoidance.
Second the article is male-oriented. We’ve produced plenty of world class female players. Why females but not males? Motivation. Lack of financially compelling alternatives for the best female competitors and atheletes (unlike males). Title IX (motivation for females).
So the answer is more basic for males in the US: culture and money. Soccer is not engrained in our culture and it doesn’t pay enough.
No. Travel soccer is very structured. The term “play” should be thought of as experimental. There is no to little unstructured play in travel soccer. It’s not about playing pickup, it’s about training to push kids to think under pressure and solve the box with something beside running fast. Tight spaces play and decision making under pressure vs winning at u12. Its the difference between teaching someone color theory vs give them a paint by numbers coloring book.
The US woman’s game is over reliant on athleticism. We are a big country and will always be able to get the athletes. It’s like a big club playing a smaller club. The top 3-4 players for each side are evenly matched but there is a big drop off after 5 or 6 for the small club. The speed of play is not there on the women’s side either. If you watch the recent ICC Future games and Spain-US game you can see it.
I have no idea what you are talking about with illegals or motivation.
Anonymous
03/20/2020 06:44
Subject: [article] Gary R. Allen's Speed of Play
First, the article is obvious. Clearly, if kids played more pickup soccer, like they play pickup basketball, we’d have a lot more creative and skilled players to choose from. Duh. But today’s society is very structured for middle and upper class and the poorer class kids with more free unsupervised time aren’t kicking a ball in the streets. They are shooting hoops, playing two-hand touch, or stickball. Well, except for the illegals, but they aren’t going to get recognized due to mainstream sports league avoidance.
Second the article is male-oriented. We’ve produced plenty of world class female players. Why females but not males? Motivation. Lack of financially compelling alternatives for the best female competitors and atheletes (unlike males). Title IX (motivation for females).
So the answer is more basic for males in the US: culture and money. Soccer is not engrained in our culture and it doesn’t pay enough.
Second the article is male-oriented. We’ve produced plenty of world class female players. Why females but not males? Motivation. Lack of financially compelling alternatives for the best female competitors and atheletes (unlike males). Title IX (motivation for females).
So the answer is more basic for males in the US: culture and money. Soccer is not engrained in our culture and it doesn’t pay enough.
Anonymous
03/19/2020 15:37
Subject: [article] Gary R. Allen's Speed of Play
Good article. I think travel soccer selects for aggression first then speed and size/physicality.
I though the last paragraph was interesting. Players should play against payers of different levels. I think this is very important. Too often we want the player to play with other top players. Playing with a mix of player level allows more experimentation.
I though the last paragraph was interesting. Players should play against payers of different levels. I think this is very important. Too often we want the player to play with other top players. Playing with a mix of player level allows more experimentation.
Anonymous
03/19/2020 14:17
Subject: [article] Gary R. Allen's Speed of Play
Very interesting article.
Anonymous
03/19/2020 11:25
Subject: Re:[article] Gary R. Allen's Speed of Play
Thanks for reading the Speed of Play articles. I have written a number of articles geared towards youth soccer. I would be happy to send them to you, if you email me at alleng@gao.gov. Or just type my name and soccer articles in a Search and a number of them should come up. For a quick bio, just type in my name and soccer. There are some synopses of my career as a US Soccer National Staff Coach and a USYS National Staff Coach. All the best.
Anonymous
06/23/2018 20:33
Subject: Re:[article] Gary R. Allen's Speed of Play
Anonymous wrote:It’s what I’ve always been saying. It’s the reason my kids don’t play for Americans.
And I’m talking about the first page of “speed of play” and what we get so wrong with our analysis of “speed” in soccer players in the US.
Anonymous
06/23/2018 20:31
Subject: Re:[article] Gary R. Allen's Speed of Play
It’s what I’ve always been saying. It’s the reason my kids don’t play for Americans.
Anonymous
06/22/2018 16:38
Subject: [article] Gary R. Allen's Speed of Play