Anonymous
Post 06/20/2018 20:16     Subject: Cardinal McCarrick removed from ministry by the Pope
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not Catholic but some of the nicest people/families I know are. I have even thought of converting to Catholicism.

Is the church leadership really that awful?

One of my best friends in hs was Catholic and her mom was from Ireland. They moved from their previous home because the priest at their church molested her brother.

I guess it’s not an isolated problem.

But I adore my Catholic friends.


Most regular Catholics are not the problem.

The problem is the organization - the institution and the hierarchy. It's not just a matter of child rapists, it's the mass numbers of people--and leader--involved in covering up abuse. It's very deep, and very systemic.

I don't know what can be done. The whole Catholic Church needs to be gutted and started anew, somehow. And with women involved in leadership. The current patriarchal hierarchy just cannot be trusted. The rot goes deep in the system.


Former Catholic and yes, diversity in leadership to include women would go a long way towards accountability. I'd offer that systemically, the Church will continue to see rampant pedophilia unless and until the church will accept married men as priests.

Anonymous
Post 06/20/2018 20:02     Subject: Cardinal McCarrick removed from ministry by the Pope
Anonymous wrote:I am not Catholic but some of the nicest people/families I know are. I have even thought of converting to Catholicism.

Is the church leadership really that awful?

One of my best friends in hs was Catholic and her mom was from Ireland. They moved from their previous home because the priest at their church molested her brother.

I guess it’s not an isolated problem.

But I adore my Catholic friends.


Most regular Catholics are not the problem.

The problem is the organization - the institution and the hierarchy. It's not just a matter of child rapists, it's the mass numbers of people--and leader--involved in covering up abuse. It's very deep, and very systemic.

I don't know what can be done. The whole Catholic Church needs to be gutted and started anew, somehow. And with women involved in leadership. The current patriarchal hierarchy just cannot be trusted. The rot goes deep in the system.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2018 19:22     Subject: Cardinal McCarrick removed from ministry by the Pope
Sick puppy
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2018 18:43     Subject: Cardinal McCarrick removed from ministry by the Pope
Anonymous wrote:They new many years ago when he had 2 "secret" settlements

this is just so f'ed up that they sit there every sunday and preach this and that yet behind closed doors....


The church has learned nothing over the last 20 years. WHY do they continue to cover up pedophiles and rapists?!
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2018 18:36     Subject: Cardinal McCarrick removed from ministry by the Pope
I am not Catholic but some of the nicest people/families I know are. I have even thought of converting to Catholicism.

Is the church leadership really that awful?

One of my best friends in hs was Catholic and her mom was from Ireland. They moved from their previous home because the priest at their church molested her brother.

I guess it’s not an isolated problem.

But I adore my Catholic friends.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2018 15:58     Subject: Re:Cardinal McCarrick removed from ministry by the Pope
Anonymous wrote:Why is there a payout to adults?


I don't understand that either. Hush money?
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2018 15:54     Subject: Re:Cardinal McCarrick removed from ministry by the Pope
Why is there a payout to adults?
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2018 15:38     Subject: Cardinal McCarrick removed from ministry by the Pope
PP here Knew not new but disgusts me yet my father defends them, no wonder, he is just like them on marriage #4 and they still accept his lofty donation.

Pay to Pray Pay to forgive
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2018 15:03     Subject: Cardinal McCarrick removed from ministry by the Pope
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They new many years ago when he had 2 "secret" settlements

this is just so f'ed up that they sit there every sunday and preach this and that yet behind closed doors....



I understand now why my mother left Catholicism. I think the institution is completely rotten very deep, and needs to be gutted. It may take centuries, but the those in the current hierarchy must be gone.


+1
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2018 14:54     Subject: Cardinal McCarrick removed from ministry by the Pope
Anonymous wrote:Non-Catholic, but stunned by this. He was such a fixture here.


+1.
-OP
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2018 14:19     Subject: Cardinal McCarrick removed from ministry by the Pope
Anonymous wrote:They new many years ago when he had 2 "secret" settlements

this is just so f'ed up that they sit there every sunday and preach this and that yet behind closed doors....



I understand now why my mother left Catholicism. I think the institution is completely rotten very deep, and needs to be gutted. It may take centuries, but the those in the current hierarchy must be gone.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2018 14:15     Subject: Cardinal McCarrick removed from ministry by the Pope
Non-Catholic, but stunned by this. He was such a fixture here.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2018 14:10     Subject: Cardinal McCarrick removed from ministry by the Pope
They new many years ago when he had 2 "secret" settlements

this is just so f'ed up that they sit there every sunday and preach this and that yet behind closed doors....

Anonymous
Post 06/20/2018 13:55     Subject: Cardinal McCarrick removed from ministry by the Pope
Wow, this is horrifying. I didn't think it could get any worse. I loved him as Cardinal ion Washington and he was one of the reasons I stayed an active Catholic during those years (have since left the church) Gosh, the catholic church disgusts me.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2018 13:52     Subject: Cardinal McCarrick removed from ministry by the Pope
...due to a decades-old report of sexual abuse investigated and found credible by Cardinal Dolan. Wow.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2018/06/20/cardinal-theodore-mccarrick-former-archbishop-of-washington-has-been-removed-from-ministry-after-a-sex-abuse-allegation/