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Anonymous wrote:The sliding scale is terrible. Tons of money given to the extremely poor, which I get completely. But middle and upper middle class expected to get loans. It is total BS

So what should happen? Colleges give you all the money, too? Wouldn't that mean raising tuition even more so the top 10% of whatever that can pay full freight are covering everyone's expenses?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry. Forgot to add their basic premise:

Middle-class families pay a higher price, but nothing like the list price. Only affluent families pay something close to the list price. It’s true that many of these families don’t think of themselves as affluent. But they are – part of roughly the country’s richest 10 percent, with an annual income of at least $175,000 and a net worth of a half-million dollars or more. For them, a college bill approaching $70,000 can be decidedly unpleasant, yet it doesn’t reorder their lives.

I have zero complaints about our $200K HHI (although will note that it doesn't buy what it would e.g. in Omaha, notwithstanding FAFSA's indifference to such distinction), but it is not sufficient to pay full price at a school that costs $70K or more per year.

It is not a matter of "decidedly unpleasant"; it is a matter of "inaccessible."

To attend such a school, one needs to be low-income, middle-income, or in the top 1-2%.

We have that income too and have been saving since birth. But even so, not a chance we could pay $70K. Maybe two years, but not four. We live really modestly in a small house to be able to save. These schools are for the very rich and very poor now.

Out of current year's income, yes, probably... but saving for 15 years from similar income? Should not be.

Anonymous wrote:The sliding scale is terrible. Tons of money given to the extremely poor, which I get completely. But middle and upper middle class expected to get loans. It is total BS

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry. Forgot to add their basic premise:

Middle-class families pay a higher price, but nothing like the list price. Only affluent families pay something close to the list price. It’s true that many of these families don’t think of themselves as affluent. But they are – part of roughly the country’s richest 10 percent, with an annual income of at least $175,000 and a net worth of a half-million dollars or more. For them, a college bill approaching $70,000 can be decidedly unpleasant, yet it doesn’t reorder their lives.

I have zero complaints about our $200K HHI (although will note that it doesn't buy what it would e.g. in Omaha, notwithstanding FAFSA's indifference to such distinction), but it is not sufficient to pay full price at a school that costs $70K or more per year.

It is not a matter of "decidedly unpleasant"; it is a matter of "inaccessible."

To attend such a school, one needs to be low-income, middle-income, or in the top 1-2%.

Out of current year's income, yes, probably... but saving for 15 years from similar income? Should not be.

+1. If you save even half the cost of a private college you may be able to afford it paying the remainder out of pocket. Our experience was that the top schools are pretty generous with financial aid even for folks with 200k HHI. This was our experience anyway.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry. Forgot to add their basic premise:

Middle-class families pay a higher price, but nothing like the list price. Only affluent families pay something close to the list price. It’s true that many of these families don’t think of themselves as affluent. But they are – part of roughly the country’s richest 10 percent, with an annual income of at least $175,000 and a net worth of a half-million dollars or more. For them, a college bill approaching $70,000 can be decidedly unpleasant, yet it doesn’t reorder their lives.

I have zero complaints about our $200K HHI (although will note that it doesn't buy what it would e.g. in Omaha, notwithstanding FAFSA's indifference to such distinction), but it is not sufficient to pay full price at a school that costs $70K or more per year.

It is not a matter of "decidedly unpleasant"; it is a matter of "inaccessible."

To attend such a school, one needs to be low-income, middle-income, or in the top 1-2%.

Out of current year's income, yes, probably... but saving for 15 years from similar income? Should not be.

That supposes that you are making that same income for all those 15+ years. We make that now, with two in HS and are shoveling as much as we can into college savings, but it's a very recent development.

And, many families who are making that income via two salaries by the time their kids are approaching college would have been spending what they might otherwise save for college to pay for childcare.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry. Forgot to add their basic premise:

Middle-class families pay a higher price, but nothing like the list price. Only affluent families pay something close to the list price. It’s true that many of these families don’t think of themselves as affluent. But they are – part of roughly the country’s richest 10 percent, with an annual income of at least $175,000 and a net worth of a half-million dollars or more. For them, a college bill approaching $70,000 can be decidedly unpleasant, yet it doesn’t reorder their lives.

I have zero complaints about our $200K HHI (although will note that it doesn't buy what it would e.g. in Omaha, notwithstanding FAFSA's indifference to such distinction), but it is not sufficient to pay full price at a school that costs $70K or more per year.

It is not a matter of "decidedly unpleasant"; it is a matter of "inaccessible."

To attend such a school, one needs to be low-income, middle-income, or in the top 1-2%.

Out of current year's income, yes, probably... but saving for 15 years from similar income? Should not be.

That supposes that you are making that same income for all those 15+ years. We make that now, with two in HS and are shoveling as much as we can into college savings, but it's a very recent development.

And, many families who are making that income via two salaries by the time their kids are approaching college would have been spending what they might otherwise save for college to pay for childcare.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry. Forgot to add their basic premise:

Middle-class families pay a higher price, but nothing like the list price. Only affluent families pay something close to the list price. It’s true that many of these families don’t think of themselves as affluent. But they are – part of roughly the country’s richest 10 percent, with an annual income of at least $175,000 and a net worth of a half-million dollars or more. For them, a college bill approaching $70,000 can be decidedly unpleasant, yet it doesn’t reorder their lives.

I have zero complaints about our $200K HHI (although will note that it doesn't buy what it would e.g. in Omaha, notwithstanding FAFSA's indifference to such distinction), but it is not sufficient to pay full price at a school that costs $70K or more per year.

It is not a matter of "decidedly unpleasant"; it is a matter of "inaccessible."

To attend such a school, one needs to be low-income, middle-income, or in the top 1-2%.

Out of current year's income, yes, probably... but saving for 15 years from similar income? Should not be.

+1. If you save even half the cost of a private college you may be able to afford it paying the remainder out of pocket. Our experience was that the top schools are pretty generous with financial aid even for folks with 200k HHI. This was our experience anyway.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry. Forgot to add their basic premise:

Middle-class families pay a higher price, but nothing like the list price. Only affluent families pay something close to the list price. It’s true that many of these families don’t think of themselves as affluent. But they are – part of roughly the country’s richest 10 percent, with an annual income of at least $175,000 and a net worth of a half-million dollars or more. For them, a college bill approaching $70,000 can be decidedly unpleasant, yet it doesn’t reorder their lives.

I have zero complaints about our $200K HHI (although will note that it doesn't buy what it would e.g. in Omaha, notwithstanding FAFSA's indifference to such distinction), but it is not sufficient to pay full price at a school that costs $70K or more per year.

It is not a matter of "decidedly unpleasant"; it is a matter of "inaccessible."

To attend such a school, one needs to be low-income, middle-income, or in the top 1-2%.

Out of current year's income, yes, probably... but saving for 15 years from similar income? Should not be.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry. Forgot to add their basic premise:

Middle-class families pay a higher price, but nothing like the list price. Only affluent families pay something close to the list price. It’s true that many of these families don’t think of themselves as affluent. But they are – part of roughly the country’s richest 10 percent, with an annual income of at least $175,000 and a net worth of a half-million dollars or more. For them, a college bill approaching $70,000 can be decidedly unpleasant, yet it doesn’t reorder their lives.

I have zero complaints about our $200K HHI (although will note that it doesn't buy what it would e.g. in Omaha, notwithstanding FAFSA's indifference to such distinction), but it is not sufficient to pay full price at a school that costs $70K or more per year.

It is not a matter of "decidedly unpleasant"; it is a matter of "inaccessible."

To attend such a school, one needs to be low-income, middle-income, or in the top 1-2%.

Out of current year's income, yes, probably... but saving for 15 years from similar income? Should not be.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry. Forgot to add their basic premise:

Middle-class families pay a higher price, but nothing like the list price. Only affluent families pay something close to the list price. It’s true that many of these families don’t think of themselves as affluent. But they are – part of roughly the country’s richest 10 percent, with an annual income of at least $175,000 and a net worth of a half-million dollars or more. For them, a college bill approaching $70,000 can be decidedly unpleasant, yet it doesn’t reorder their lives.

I have zero complaints about our $200K HHI (although will note that it doesn't buy what it would e.g. in Omaha, notwithstanding FAFSA's indifference to such distinction), but it is not sufficient to pay full price at a school that costs $70K or more per year.

It is not a matter of "decidedly unpleasant"; it is a matter of "inaccessible."

To attend such a school, one needs to be low-income, middle-income, or in the top 1-2%.

Out of current year's income, yes, probably... but saving for 15 years from similar income? Should not be.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry. Forgot to add their basic premise:

Middle-class families pay a higher price, but nothing like the list price. Only affluent families pay something close to the list price. It’s true that many of these families don’t think of themselves as affluent. But they are – part of roughly the country’s richest 10 percent, with an annual income of at least $175,000 and a net worth of a half-million dollars or more. For them, a college bill approaching $70,000 can be decidedly unpleasant, yet it doesn’t reorder their lives.

I have zero complaints about our $200K HHI (although will note that it doesn't buy what it would e.g. in Omaha, notwithstanding FAFSA's indifference to such distinction), but it is not sufficient to pay full price at a school that costs $70K or more per year.

It is not a matter of "decidedly unpleasant"; it is a matter of "inaccessible."

To attend such a school, one needs to be low-income, middle-income, or in the top 1-2%.

Anonymous wrote:Sorry. Forgot to add their basic premise:

Middle-class families pay a higher price, but nothing like the list price. Only affluent families pay something close to the list price. It’s true that many of these families don’t think of themselves as affluent. But they are – part of roughly the country’s richest 10 percent, with an annual income of at least $175,000 and a net worth of a half-million dollars or more. For them, a college bill approaching $70,000 can be decidedly unpleasant, yet it doesn’t reorder their lives.