Anonymous
Post 04/21/2018 15:54     Subject: Reading logs
Anonymous wrote:I have two DCs in a PGCPS school.

1st grader - no reading log, but child is expected to read for 20 minutes each evening for homework. This reading can include parents reading to child.

4th grader - dailiy reading log similar to what OP describes, child is required to read for 30 minutes each evening for homework and complete daily log. Log gets signed by parent and turned in.


Want to add, I too hate the reading log, but 4th grader has been doing them since 1st grade so is used to it. For some reason, 1st grader doesn't have to do them, which is a relief!
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2018 15:52     Subject: Reading logs
I have two DCs in a PGCPS school.

1st grader - no reading log, but child is expected to read for 20 minutes each evening for homework. This reading can include parents reading to child.

4th grader - dailiy reading log similar to what OP describes, child is required to read for 30 minutes each evening for homework and complete daily log. Log gets signed by parent and turned in.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2018 15:42     Subject: Reading logs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously? All the issues in PGCPS and this is what you focus on? Just don’t fill out the reading logs then.


You don't know me and your judgement is harsh. I do a lot of advocacy for students, teachers and families in the county. I'm active in PTA, I've testified at Board meetings, I raise money for uniforms, books, school supplies, principals lunch fund, volunteer at the school etc.

Just because there are big picture items seriously wrong with PGCPS doesn't mean that we should ignore the day to day hurdles that are going on in the classroom.

I would LOVE to not fill in the logs but for my fourth grader that would mean that she would fail reading as the logs account for 35% of the grade. The teacher is awful for a myriad of reasons. I am documenting everything and hoping that she will be removed before the beginning of next school year.

My point wasn't to debate reading logs, my point was to find out what other teachers/schools are doing in the county and see if there is some sort of norm.



What are your reasons for not wanting to do them? Honestly, I see a lot pg county students fail in comparison to others. They would only do good, doing the reading logs


1) They do not encourage my child to read at all. My child was already reading for pleasure and they don't read any more than they already were. It is a struggle to get my child to do it.
2) There is a body of research that shows basic reading logs are counter productive. There is no research that shows they are beneficial. https://eric.ed.gov/?id=EJ1098404
3) The type of log this particular teacher assigns is basically just busy work. It is a chore that no one wants to do and has no meaning.
4) I don't see what skills a basic reading log teaches to kids. If she wants to encourage reading she could have them discuss the books they are reading with each other or present a 2-3 minute book talk to the class when they finish a book, have them write a book report when they finish reading a book, use writing prompts with "I liked, I wondered, I thought".





Also, the teacher doesn't even read them. She just looks at the number of minutes recorded and checks the parent's signature is on them. If I were a student I would interpret that as the teacher finding no meaning in the work that I just completed.

Anonymous
Post 04/21/2018 15:25     Subject: Reading logs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously? All the issues in PGCPS and this is what you focus on? Just don’t fill out the reading logs then.


You don't know me and your judgement is harsh. I do a lot of advocacy for students, teachers and families in the county. I'm active in PTA, I've testified at Board meetings, I raise money for uniforms, books, school supplies, principals lunch fund, volunteer at the school etc.

Just because there are big picture items seriously wrong with PGCPS doesn't mean that we should ignore the day to day hurdles that are going on in the classroom.

I would LOVE to not fill in the logs but for my fourth grader that would mean that she would fail reading as the logs account for 35% of the grade. The teacher is awful for a myriad of reasons. I am documenting everything and hoping that she will be removed before the beginning of next school year.

My point wasn't to debate reading logs, my point was to find out what other teachers/schools are doing in the county and see if there is some sort of norm.



What are your reasons for not wanting to do them? Honestly, I see a lot pg county students fail in comparison to others. They would only do good, doing the reading logs


1) They do not encourage my child to read at all. My child was already reading for pleasure and they don't read any more than they already were. It is a struggle to get my child to do it.
2) There is a body of research that shows basic reading logs are counter productive. There is no research that shows they are beneficial. https://eric.ed.gov/?id=EJ1098404
3) The type of log this particular teacher assigns is basically just busy work. It is a chore that no one wants to do and has no meaning.
4) I don't see what skills a basic reading log teaches to kids. If she wants to encourage reading she could have them discuss the books they are reading with each other or present a 2-3 minute book talk to the class when they finish a book, have them write a book report when they finish reading a book, use writing prompts with "I liked, I wondered, I thought".



Anonymous
Post 04/21/2018 14:54     Subject: Reading logs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously? All the issues in PGCPS and this is what you focus on? Just don’t fill out the reading logs then.


You don't know me and your judgement is harsh. I do a lot of advocacy for students, teachers and families in the county. I'm active in PTA, I've testified at Board meetings, I raise money for uniforms, books, school supplies, principals lunch fund, volunteer at the school etc.

Just because there are big picture items seriously wrong with PGCPS doesn't mean that we should ignore the day to day hurdles that are going on in the classroom.

I would LOVE to not fill in the logs but for my fourth grader that would mean that she would fail reading as the logs account for 35% of the grade. The teacher is awful for a myriad of reasons. I am documenting everything and hoping that she will be removed before the beginning of next school year.

My point wasn't to debate reading logs, my point was to find out what other teachers/schools are doing in the county and see if there is some sort of norm.



What are your reasons for not wanting to do them? Honestly, I see a lot pg county students fail in comparison to others. They would only do good, doing the reading logs
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2018 14:49     Subject: Reading logs
Anonymous wrote:Seriously? All the issues in PGCPS and this is what you focus on? Just don’t fill out the reading logs then.


You don't know me and your judgement is harsh. I do a lot of advocacy for students, teachers and families in the county. I'm active in PTA, I've testified at Board meetings, I raise money for uniforms, books, school supplies, principals lunch fund, volunteer at the school etc.

Just because there are big picture items seriously wrong with PGCPS doesn't mean that we should ignore the day to day hurdles that are going on in the classroom.

I would LOVE to not fill in the logs but for my fourth grader that would mean that she would fail reading as the logs account for 35% of the grade. The teacher is awful for a myriad of reasons. I am documenting everything and hoping that she will be removed before the beginning of next school year.

My point wasn't to debate reading logs, my point was to find out what other teachers/schools are doing in the county and see if there is some sort of norm.

Anonymous
Post 04/20/2018 22:10     Subject: Re:Reading logs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look, PG county schools dial in comparison to neighboring county public schools. Reading for 15 minutes at home is doing no harm. There is no excuse to not being able to get a book. Public library, kindle, thrift store, etc.


So, does your child have a reading log requirement?


My child had a reading log up until 5th grade. As a parent, I require my child to read for 45 mins every night and then provide a written summary of what he read.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2018 20:45     Subject: Reading logs
Seriously? All the issues in PGCPS and this is what you focus on? Just don’t fill out the reading logs then.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2018 15:31     Subject: Reading logs
If you are interested, here is an article from the Atlantic that talks about reading logs. https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/06/are-reading-logs-ruining-reading/485372/
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2018 15:03     Subject: Reading logs
Anonymous wrote:Curios to see what teachers are doing across the county. Does your child's teacher require reading logs, if so what is the expectations. I personally hate traditional reading logs and think they do more harm than good. What I wonder is what happens to the kids whose parents can't afford to buy books and who don't get to go to a public library very often.

4th Grade - Required, read at school for 15 min, write at least 4 lines each day (at home), record the Title, author and genre of the book, reading logs are due on Monday.

1st Grade - Completely optional but record the date, name of the book and minutes read. If you fill in the sheet you get some sort of recognition at the end of the month.




Hopefully the school/teacher could provide a book if needed.

I don't see a huge problem with the log. In the first grade I completed it for my kids. For us, it provided an incentive to get the reading done. Sadly, my kids have never enjoyed reading (although they like being read to, which counts for the log in early years). However, I'm not familiar with the studies that say it's counterproductive. If that's true, it should be optional.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2018 15:01     Subject: Re:Reading logs
Anonymous wrote:Look, PG county schools dial in comparison to neighboring county public schools. Reading for 15 minutes at home is doing no harm. There is no excuse to not being able to get a book. Public library, kindle, thrift store, etc.


So, does your child have a reading log requirement?
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2018 14:56     Subject: Re:Reading logs
Anonymous wrote:Look, PG county schools dial in comparison to neighboring county public schools. Reading for 15 minutes at home is doing no harm. There is no excuse to not being able to get a book. Public library, kindle, thrift store, etc.


There is a difference between having kids read and requiring a reading log. There are a lot of studies that forcing kids to document reading actually discourages them from reading.

And if parents don't have access to a car getting to a public library, kindle thrift store etc is not particularly easy.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2018 14:51     Subject: Re:Reading logs
Look, PG county schools dial in comparison to neighboring county public schools. Reading for 15 minutes at home is doing no harm. There is no excuse to not being able to get a book. Public library, kindle, thrift store, etc.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2018 09:55     Subject: Re:Reading logs
Curios = Curious
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2018 09:16     Subject: Reading logs
Curios to see what teachers are doing across the county. Does your child's teacher require reading logs, if so what is the expectations. I personally hate traditional reading logs and think they do more harm than good. What I wonder is what happens to the kids whose parents can't afford to buy books and who don't get to go to a public library very often.

4th Grade - Required, read at school for 15 min, write at least 4 lines each day (at home), record the Title, author and genre of the book, reading logs are due on Monday.

1st Grade - Completely optional but record the date, name of the book and minutes read. If you fill in the sheet you get some sort of recognition at the end of the month.