Anonymous
Post 02/05/2018 08:26     Subject: Episcopal diocese of Washington to drop male pronouns for God

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Next step: Drop God


Yep.

That is wher e the Episcopalian "church" is leading.

They are working towards making the Bible a general suggestion and not the Word of God.


Episcopalians haven't taken the Bible literally for centuries -- because they study the human origins of the Bible
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2018 00:43     Subject: Episcopal diocese of Washington to drop male pronouns for God

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Next step: Drop God


Yes because obviously if God can't be masculine then he's not really God and not worth having.


Well, the Bible actually says God is our Father.

Jesus refers to God as his Father in the Bible as well.

Not genderless being. Not mother. Father. God the Father.

And don't Episcopalians pray the Our Father like all Christian religions? That prayer is universal in Christianity.

Don't Episcopalians baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit? This is also universal in much of Christianity.

If Episcopalian leadership really wants to deviate so far from Biblical teachings, then they should just bite the bullet and separate entirely from Christianity and the Bible.

They can announce that they are no longer Christian and create some sort of fellowship with UUs.

If the Bible is simply a suggestion and the teachings and words of Christ are irrelevant in their leadership's mind then it is really a joke for them to call themselves Christian.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2018 23:57     Subject: Episcopal diocese of Washington to drop male pronouns for God

Anonymous wrote:Next step: Drop God


Yes because obviously if God can't be masculine then he's not really God and not worth having.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2018 23:48     Subject: Episcopal diocese of Washington to drop male pronouns for God

Anonymous wrote:Next step: Drop God


Yep.

That is wher e the Episcopalian "church" is leading.

They are working towards making the Bible a general suggestion and not the Word of God.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2018 22:06     Subject: Episcopal diocese of Washington to drop male pronouns for God

Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty sure the Episcopal church will be dead at some point in my lifetime.

I agree.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2018 21:57     Subject: Episcopal diocese of Washington to drop male pronouns for God

Well former Presiding Bishop Schori did refer to "Mother Jesus" in her sermons.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2018 21:44     Subject: Episcopal diocese of Washington to drop male pronouns for God

My pastor uses genders interchangably. Since God of course has no gender in human terms, it makes sense. But still excited for a bunch of Trumpian godless people to complain in this thread.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2018 21:43     Subject: Episcopal diocese of Washington to drop male pronouns for God

I wonder, though, if they will still be referring to Satan as "He?"
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2018 21:43     Subject: Episcopal diocese of Washington to drop male pronouns for God

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Wow, that's huge. And I didn't know the Church of Sweden had already done this as well.

Glad to hear it, but how will it play out semantically? "They"? "It"?

Anyway, I approve.

When we pray with non-masculine language in my synagogue, we usually just say “God” or “The One” instead of “He,” and “ruler” instead of “king” or “lord.” It’s an easy substitution.


The Lord's prayer might have some issues.

Lord, father, son come up a few times. Quite a few hymns used male gendered words etc.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2018 21:42     Subject: Episcopal diocese of Washington to drop male pronouns for God

Anonymous wrote:Next step: Drop God


Anonymous
Post 02/04/2018 21:41     Subject: Episcopal diocese of Washington to drop male pronouns for God

Next step: Drop God
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2018 21:37     Subject: Episcopal diocese of Washington to drop male pronouns for God

Anonymous wrote:
Wow, that's huge. And I didn't know the Church of Sweden had already done this as well.

Glad to hear it, but how will it play out semantically? "They"? "It"?

Anyway, I approve.

When we pray with non-masculine language in my synagogue, we usually just say “God” or “The One” instead of “He,” and “ruler” instead of “king” or “lord.” It’s an easy substitution.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2018 21:32     Subject: Episcopal diocese of Washington to drop male pronouns for God


Wow, that's huge. And I didn't know the Church of Sweden had already done this as well.

Glad to hear it, but how will it play out semantically? "They"? "It"?

Anyway, I approve.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2018 21:28     Subject: Episcopal diocese of Washington to drop male pronouns for God

I'm pretty sure the Episcopal church will be dead at some point in my lifetime.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2018 21:27     Subject: Episcopal diocese of Washington to drop male pronouns for God

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailywire.com/news/26692/us-episcopal-diocese-votes-stop-using-masculine-paul-bois%3famp

Having studied much feminist theology in my masters’ degrees, I wrote a thesis on liberation and freedom and non-equality in feminist theology and existential counseling,” Calkins told the delegates.

“And I am still waiting for the Episcopal Church to come to the place where all people feel that they can speak God’s name," Calkins continued. "Many, many women that I have spoken with over my past almost 20 years in ordained ministry have felt that they could not be a part of any church because of the male image of God that is systemic and that is sustained throughout our liturgies. Many of us are waiting and need to hear God in our language, in our words and in our pronouns."


I certainly think a human conception of God is a difficult subject, but if the national Episcopal Church takes a similar stance, I would expect attendance to drop.