Anonymous
01/25/2018 08:19
Subject: Starting AAP after 3rd grade - Math
. To be clearer, the base school dropped advanced math for grades 3-5 starting this year.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:AAP math and gen ed advanced math follow the same curriculum.
Wrong
Based on???
I've compared the two. Not all of the projects are the same, but they are following the same curriculum and even getting a lot of the same homework packets. 5th graders in gen ed Advanced math take the 6th grade SOL, just like those in AAP. 6th graders in gen ed advanced math take the IAAT and 7th grade SOL, and may qualify for Algebra in 7th, just like those in AAP.
Yep. The pacing is the same. I have kids in back to back grades with one in advanced math (gen ed) in 3rd and one in aap. The base school dropped advanced math from school for grades 3-5. However, Principals at base and center claim that kids who are advanced at math usually still pass the 7th grade SOL even if they transfer to aap/advanced math in 6th grade. The crux is that these kids going into aap in 6th could feel anxious as their peers have increntally been moving along in math for three years.
Anonymous
01/25/2018 08:17
Subject: Starting AAP after 3rd grade - Math
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:AAP math and gen ed advanced math follow the same curriculum.
Wrong
Based on???
I've compared the two. Not all of the projects are the same, but they are following the same curriculum and even getting a lot of the same homework packets. 5th graders in gen ed Advanced math take the 6th grade SOL, just like those in AAP. 6th graders in gen ed advanced math take the IAAT and 7th grade SOL, and may qualify for Algebra in 7th, just like those in AAP.
Yep. The pacing is the same. I have kids in back to back grades with one in advanced math (gen ed) in 3rd and one in aap. The base school dropped advanced math from school for grades 3-5. However, Principals at base and center claim that kids who are advanced at math usually still pass the 7th grade SOL even if they transfer to aap/advanced math in 6th grade. The crux is that these kids going into aap in 6th could feel anxious as their peers have increntally been moving along in math for three years.
Anonymous
01/25/2018 07:37
Subject: Starting AAP after 3rd grade - Math
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:AAP math and gen ed advanced math follow the same curriculum.
Wrong
Based on???
I've compared the two. Not all of the projects are the same, but they are following the same curriculum and even getting a lot of the same homework packets. 5th graders in gen ed Advanced math take the 6th grade SOL, just like those in AAP. 6th graders in gen ed advanced math take the IAAT and 7th grade SOL, and may qualify for Algebra in 7th, just like those in AAP.
Anonymous
01/25/2018 03:36
Subject: Starting AAP after 3rd grade - Math
Anonymous wrote:AAP math and gen ed advanced math follow the same curriculum.
Wrong
Anonymous
01/24/2018 14:57
Subject: Re:Starting AAP after 3rd grade - Math
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How do you test into advanced math if you are in general ed? What test is it based on? is it just the SOL-what score is needed? Or something else-another test?
There's no consistent FCPS policy, and each school handles it however they choose to handle it. If the school is a center or LLIV, they may only have a limited number of AAP math spots, and they have whatever metric for picking those. If the school is a base school, it may not even have advanced math. People have complained in the past that their gen ed kids who did well in advanced math were kicked out for not scoring pass advanced on the SOL. You really would have to ask the principal at your school how children are placed in advanced math. Your child probably has great chances of getting in if the school is a base school with no AAP and with advanced math, since there won't be any space limitations.
It's frustrating, that there isn't a policy that guarantees advanced math for all who qualify.
Our school has LLIV, but there doesn't seem to be a limit to the number of kids that can be in advanced math, and I think the advanced math class is larger than the others. DS is in gen ed but has been in advanced math since third grade (now in sixth). I guess he has to requalify every year; I'm not sure.
Anonymous
01/24/2018 12:26
Subject: Starting AAP after 3rd grade - Math
The curriculum for various grades are also online, so you can see what is covered, and where you may need to make up some ground.
Anonymous
01/24/2018 11:38
Subject: Re:Starting AAP after 3rd grade - Math
Anonymous wrote:In the accelerated math, I think they do all of 3rd grade and half of 4th but someone correct me if this is wrong.
There are open houses for admitted kids, perhaps you could ask this question then. I suppose I would likely have the kid do some of it over the summer - but it's probably fine, whatever you do. I don't feel like it's ridiculously ahead.
Yes. AAP 4th grade math covers the second half of 4th grade and all(?) of 5th grade math. You would only be half a year behind, and as long as your child is SOLID with their multiplication and division facts, it won't be a big deal. If you are jumping from regular 3rd grade math to AAP 4th grade math, you could always ask the AART or math resource teacher what your child missed, and then review that over the summer.
Anonymous
01/24/2018 11:33
Subject: Re:Starting AAP after 3rd grade - Math
In the accelerated math, I think they do all of 3rd grade and half of 4th but someone correct me if this is wrong.
There are open houses for admitted kids, perhaps you could ask this question then. I suppose I would likely have the kid do some of it over the summer - but it's probably fine, whatever you do. I don't feel like it's ridiculously ahead.
There are open houses for admitted kids, perhaps you could ask this question then. I suppose I would likely have the kid do some of it over the summer - but it's probably fine, whatever you do. I don't feel like it's ridiculously ahead.
Anonymous
01/24/2018 11:32
Subject: Re:Starting AAP after 3rd grade - Math
Anonymous wrote:How do you test into advanced math if you are in general ed? What test is it based on? is it just the SOL-what score is needed? Or something else-another test?
My kids' school uses a combination of the math reasoning tests given at the beginning and end of each year, grades from the previous year, teacher recommendation from the previous year, CogAT Q scores, and SOL scores.
Anonymous
01/24/2018 11:26
Subject: Re:Starting AAP after 3rd grade - Math
Anonymous wrote:How do you test into advanced math if you are in general ed? What test is it based on? is it just the SOL-what score is needed? Or something else-another test?
There's no consistent FCPS policy, and each school handles it however they choose to handle it. If the school is a center or LLIV, they may only have a limited number of AAP math spots, and they have whatever metric for picking those. If the school is a base school, it may not even have advanced math. People have complained in the past that their gen ed kids who did well in advanced math were kicked out for not scoring pass advanced on the SOL. You really would have to ask the principal at your school how children are placed in advanced math. Your child probably has great chances of getting in if the school is a base school with no AAP and with advanced math, since there won't be any space limitations.
It's frustrating, that there isn't a policy that guarantees advanced math for all who qualify.
Anonymous
01/24/2018 11:11
Subject: Re:Starting AAP after 3rd grade - Math
How do you test into advanced math if you are in general ed? What test is it based on? is it just the SOL-what score is needed? Or something else-another test?
Anonymous
01/24/2018 09:46
Subject: Starting AAP after 3rd grade - Math
Try to catch up over the summer. There are several schools that offer math classes over the summer to prep kids for the upcoming year. 4th grade shouldn't be too difficult to catch up.
Anonymous
01/24/2018 09:23
Subject: Starting AAP after 3rd grade - Math
Some third grade gen ed kids are in advanced math, which is the same as the AAP students take. (At our LLIV school, gen ed kids who test into advanced math take it in the same class with the Level IV kids.)
If a kid tests into AAP Level IV later, he or she could remain in gen ed math (AAP kids are permitted to opt out of advanced math and just do AAP for the other subjects). Or he or she could take advanced math and just try to make up for the lost year, which likely would be challenging but doable for many.
If a kid tests into AAP Level IV later, he or she could remain in gen ed math (AAP kids are permitted to opt out of advanced math and just do AAP for the other subjects). Or he or she could take advanced math and just try to make up for the lost year, which likely would be challenging but doable for many.
Anonymous
01/24/2018 08:25
Subject: Starting AAP after 3rd grade - Math
AAP math and gen ed advanced math follow the same curriculum.
Anonymous
01/24/2018 08:21
Subject: Starting AAP after 3rd grade - Math
Just curious as there has been some talk lately about reapplying in third grade (to start in fourth) if not making it the first year--what does a kid starting AAP in 4th grade do for Math? My understanding is AAP 3rd graders cover 3rd and 4th grade math in one year, right? But presumably a kid coming from 3rd grade gen ed has only had 3rd grade Math--so how is that handled?