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Anonymous wrote:All those farmers who voted for Trump are going to be so delighted.

they're already panicking with all the deportations.

Very true. I know a road construction business owner in Texas who is already having serious problems finding Labor. And he’s a GOPer.

Long term labor shortages do not happen naturally in market economies. That is not to say that they don't exist. They are created when employers or government agencies tamper with the natural functioning of the wage mechanism.

"[To attract] workers, the employer may have to increase his wage offer. ... So when you hear an employer saying he needs immigrants to fill a "labor shortage'', remember what you are hearing: a cry for a labor subsidy to allow the employer to avoid the normal functioning of the labor market."

-1990 Congressional Testimony of Dr. Michael S. Teitelbaum

http://users.nber.org/~sewp/references/archive/weinsteinhowandwhygovernment.pdf

How’s Teitelbaum at operating a road grader? Because no amount of subsidies is bringing labor to South Texas to pave roads in the summer. The alternative is the road doesn’t get built or repaired.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All those farmers who voted for Trump are going to be so delighted.

they're already panicking with all the deportations.

Very true. I know a road construction business owner in Texas who is already having serious problems finding Labor. And he’s a GOPer.

Long term labor shortages do not happen naturally in market economies. That is not to say that they don't exist. They are created when employers or government agencies tamper with the natural functioning of the wage mechanism.

"[To attract] workers, the employer may have to increase his wage offer. ... So when you hear an employer saying he needs immigrants to fill a "labor shortage'', remember what you are hearing: a cry for a labor subsidy to allow the employer to avoid the normal functioning of the labor market."

-1990 Congressional Testimony of Dr. Michael S. Teitelbaum

http://users.nber.org/~sewp/references/archive/weinsteinhowandwhygovernment.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:All those farmers who voted for Trump are going to be so delighted.

they're already panicking with all the deportations.

Very true. I know a road construction business owner in Texas who is already having serious problems finding Labor. And he’s a GOPer.

These are the people who voted Yea for the 2013 Immigration Bill in the Senate:

Sen. Max Baucus [D, 1978-2014]
Sen. Barbara Boxer [D, 1993-2016]
Sen. Maria Cantwell [D]
Sen. Thomas Carper [D]
Sen. Richard Durbin [D, 1997-2020]
Sen. Dianne Feinstein [D]
Sen. Thomas “Tom� Harkin [D, 1985-2014]
Sen. Tim Johnson [D, 1997-2014]
Sen. Mary Landrieu [D, 1997-2014]
Sen. Patrick Leahy [D, 1975-2022]
Sen. Carl Levin [D, 1979-2014]
Sen. Barbara Mikulski [D, 1987-2016]
Sen. Patty Murray [D, 1993-2022]
Sen. Bill Nelson [D]
Sen. Mark Pryor [D, 2003-2014]
Sen. John “Jack� Reed [D, 1997-2020]
Sen. Harry Reid [D, 1987-2016]
Sen. John “Jay� Rockefeller IV [D, 1985-2014]
Sen. Charles “Chuck� Schumer [D, 1999-2022]
Sen. Debbie Stabenow [D]
Sen. Ron Wyden [D, 1996-2022]
Sen. Tammy Baldwin [D]
Sen. Sherrod Brown [D]
Sen. Benjamin Cardin [D]
Sen. Robert “Bob� Menéndez [D]
Sen. Mark Udall [D, 2009-2014]
Sen. Tom Udall [D, 2009-2020]
Sen. Christopher Murphy [D]
Sen. Mazie Hirono [D]
Sen. Joe Donnelly [D]
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand [D]
Sen. Amy Klobuchar [D]
Sen. Claire McCaskill [D]
Sen. Jon Tester [D]
Sen. Robert “Bob� Casey Jr. [D]
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse [D]
Sen. Martin Heinrich [D]
Sen. Mark Warner [D, 2009-2020]
Sen. Jeanne Shaheen [D, 2009-2020]
Sen. Kay Hagan [D, 2009-2014]
Sen. Jeff Merkley [D, 2009-2020]
Sen. Mark Begich [D, 2009-2014]
Sen. Michael Bennet [D, 2009-2022]
Sen. Alan “Al� Franken [D, 2009-2017]
Sen. Chris Coons [D, 2010-2020]
Sen. Joe Manchin III [D]
Sen. Richard Blumenthal [D, 2011-2022]
Sen. Brian Schatz [D, 2012-2022]
Sen. Elizabeth Warren [D]
Sen. Heidi Heitkamp [D]
Sen. Timothy Kaine [D]
Sen. William “Mo� Cowan [D, 2013-2013]
Sen. Bernard “Bernie� Sanders [I]
Sen. Angus King [I]
Sen. Lamar Alexander [R, 2003-2020]
Sen. Susan Collins [R, 1997-2020]
Sen. Lindsey Graham [R, 2003-2020]
Sen. Orrin Hatch [R]
Sen. John McCain [R, 1987-2022]
Sen. Lisa Murkowski [R, 2003-2022]
Sen. Jeff Flake [R]
Sen. Mark Kirk [R, 2010-2016]
Sen. Dean Heller [R]
Sen. Bob Corker [R]
Sen. Marco Rubio [R, 2011-2022]
Sen. Kelly Ayotte [R, 2011-2016]
Sen. John Hoeven [R, 2011-2022]
Sen. Jeffrey Chiesa [R, 2013-2013]



These are the Nay votes:
Sen. Saxby Chambliss [R, 2003-2014]
Sen. Thad Cochran [R, 1979-2020]
Sen. John Cornyn [R, 2002-2020]
Sen. Michael Crapo [R, 1999-2022]
Sen. Michael Enzi [R, 1997-2020]
Sen. Charles “Chuck� Grassley [R, 1981-2022]
Sen. James “Jim� Inhofe [R, 1994-2020]
Sen. Mitch McConnell [R, 1985-2020]
Sen. Pat Roberts [R, 1997-2020]
Sen. Jefferson “Jeff� Sessions [R, 1997-2017]
Sen. Richard Shelby [R, 1987-2022]
Sen. Roy Blunt [R, 2011-2022]
Sen. John Boozman [R, 2011-2022]
Sen. Richard Burr [R, 2005-2022]
Sen. John “Johnny� Isakson [R, 2005-2022]
Sen. Jerry Moran [R, 2011-2022]
Sen. Robert “Rob� Portman [R, 2011-2022]
Sen. Patrick “Pat� Toomey [R, 2011-2022]
Sen. David Vitter [R, 2005-2016]
Sen. Roger Wicker [R]
Sen. John Thune [R, 2005-2022]
Sen. Thomas Coburn [R, 2005-2014]
Sen. Daniel Coats [R, 2011-2016]
Sen. John Barrasso [R]
Sen. Mike Johanns [R, 2009-2014]
Sen. James Risch [R, 2009-2020]
Sen. Tim Scott [R, 2013-2022]
Sen. Rand Paul [R, 2011-2022]
Sen. Mike Lee [R, 2011-2022]
Sen. Ron Johnson [R, 2011-2022]
Sen. Deb Fischer [R]
Sen. Ted Cruz [R]

Anonymous wrote:All those farmers who voted for Trump are going to be so delighted.

they're already panicking with all the deportations.

Not only that, Chuck Schumer introduced the bill.

Republicans were on the wrong side here. Democrats were on the right side.

Anonymous wrote:democrats owned this issue 20 years ago. we were the party of the workers. Now we are the party of the undocumented workers. it wasn't clinton that lost , it was the policy. the sooner we remember this the sooner we can give the boot to pelosi and schumer and start electing a new generation of Democrats that are focused on US citizens.

Schumer voted for the immigration bill that included E-Verify.

All those farmers who voted for Trump are going to be so delighted.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:democrats owned this issue 20 years ago. we were the party of the workers. Now we are the party of the undocumented workers. it wasn't clinton that lost , it was the policy. the sooner we remember this the sooner we can give the boot to pelosi and schumer and start electing a new generation of Democrats that are focused on US citizens.

Not that long ago, many conservatives and tea partiers were against e-verify.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/182151-conservatives-pan-gops-e-verify-bill

A growing chorus of conservatives is hammering a Republican proposal requiring businesses to verify the legal status of the workers they hire.

The conservative critics – including Republican lawmakers, Tea Party groups and border-state governors – are airing a long string of complaints: From fears the bill will erode civil liberties; to worries it will harm the agriculture industry; to concerns that it simply won't work.
.....
Tea Party groups are also panning the proposal. On Thursday, a number of those organizations – including the the Republican Liberty Caucus, the Liberty Coalition and Take Back Washington – wrote to every member of Congress warning that the bill "poses a threat to both the Constitution and every law-abiding citizen of this country."

The groups said the bill jeopardizes small businesses with expensive new paperwork burdens, violates individuals' rights to work and establishes "a de facto national I.D. system – even for citizens."

"The dangerous and intrusive precedent set by the bill opens the floodgate of additional incursive and contentious employment verification hurdles. Mission creep is the signature of all bureaucracies," the groups wrote.

"After enactment of the Legal Workforce Act, employers could soon be required to verify whether employees are delinquent in the payment of federal, state, or local taxes, in compliance with child support or alimony decrees, on a terrorist watch list, or convicted or even accused of crime."

Texas Gov. Rick Perry, a leading contender for the GOP presidential nomination, has also attacked E-verify, saying last year that it “would not make a hill of beans’ difference in what’s happening today."

so you let conservatives tell you what to think? what a progressive

Anonymous wrote:democrats owned this issue 20 years ago. we were the party of the workers. Now we are the party of the undocumented workers. it wasn't clinton that lost , it was the policy. the sooner we remember this the sooner we can give the boot to pelosi and schumer and start electing a new generation of Democrats that are focused on US citizens.

Not that long ago, many conservatives and tea partiers were against e-verify.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/182151-conservatives-pan-gops-e-verify-bill

A growing chorus of conservatives is hammering a Republican proposal requiring businesses to verify the legal status of the workers they hire.

The conservative critics – including Republican lawmakers, Tea Party groups and border-state governors – are airing a long string of complaints: From fears the bill will erode civil liberties; to worries it will harm the agriculture industry; to concerns that it simply won't work.
.....
Tea Party groups are also panning the proposal. On Thursday, a number of those organizations – including the the Republican Liberty Caucus, the Liberty Coalition and Take Back Washington – wrote to every member of Congress warning that the bill "poses a threat to both the Constitution and every law-abiding citizen of this country."

The groups said the bill jeopardizes small businesses with expensive new paperwork burdens, violates individuals' rights to work and establishes "a de facto national I.D. system – even for citizens."

"The dangerous and intrusive precedent set by the bill opens the floodgate of additional incursive and contentious employment verification hurdles. Mission creep is the signature of all bureaucracies," the groups wrote.

"After enactment of the Legal Workforce Act, employers could soon be required to verify whether employees are delinquent in the payment of federal, state, or local taxes, in compliance with child support or alimony decrees, on a terrorist watch list, or convicted or even accused of crime."

Texas Gov. Rick Perry, a leading contender for the GOP presidential nomination, has also attacked E-verify, saying last year that it “would not make a hill of beans’ difference in what’s happening today."

democrats owned this issue 20 years ago. we were the party of the workers. Now we are the party of the undocumented workers. it wasn't clinton that lost , it was the policy. the sooner we remember this the sooner we can give the boot to pelosi and schumer and start electing a new generation of Democrats that are focused on US citizens.

Anonymous wrote:Mandatory E-Verify is easily the single most popular immigration reform with Americans. For example, a recent poll by Pulse Opinion Research found that nearly 60 percent of likely voters want mandatory E-Verify to be part of a deal on DACA, if a deal is made and finalized.

Months ago, when likely American voters were asked by Pulse Opinion Research if they supported mandatory E-Verify, a majority of 68 percent said yes. Another 71 percent of voters said businesses should be required to hire from pools of Americans with the highest unemployment rates before importing cheaper, foreign workers through various visa programs or hiring illegal aliens.

That would be Trump Orgs which hires low skilled workers from Eastern Europe on H2B visas in Florida, where hundreds of Americans applied, but hardly any were hired.

https://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/09/donald-trumps-business-seeks-out-us-workers-temporarily/

About a week before the ads ran, the president’s club asked the Labor Department for permission to hire 70 temporary workers from overseas, government records show. Beside the 35 waiters, it asked for 20 cooks and 15 housekeepers, slightly more than it hired last year....
The club’s request for visas stood out because it came in the middle of “Made in America Week” at the White House, as Trump and his administration sought to highlight his push to remake U.S. trade policy. Even as Trump urged other U.S. businesses to “hire American,” his business was gathering evidence to prove that it couldn’t...

. Two years ago, for instance, Jeannie Coleman, who lives in nearby West Palm Beach, applied for a job as a housekeeper. Mar-a-Lago called back. She had an interview. Then: nothing.

“I was very disappointed. At that time, I really needed a job,” said Coleman, now 50.'

This week, there is a jobs fair in Palm Beach, where big resorts can meet prospective employees in person. Will a Mar-a-Lago representative be there? At The Washington Post’s request, a job-placement center employee checked the list of attendees. Mar-a-Lago isn’t going.

This is a Black woman, btw. Trump's resort only hires from Eastern Europe, land of almost no Black people.

The US doesn't have enough of these types of low skilled workers? FFS, can't you Trumpsters see the hypocrisy here? And we taxpayers are paying for him to go and stay there. So, indirectly, we are paying the wages of those foreign workers. Nice of us.. after all, as Trump said about outsourcing his clothing line, people in Eastern Europe need jobs, too.

More details on E-Verify

What is E-Verify Monitor ImageE-Verify is an Internet-based system that compares information from an employee's Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification, to data from U.S. Department of Homeland Security and Social Security Administration records to confirm employment eligibility.

https://www.uscis.gov/e-verify/what-e-verify

E-Verify was part of the 2013 immigration bill that passed the Senate. I have no reason to believe it is going to be any different this time.

Mandatory E-Verify is easily the single most popular immigration reform with Americans. For example, a recent poll by Pulse Opinion Research found that nearly 60 percent of likely voters want mandatory E-Verify to be part of a deal on DACA, if a deal is made and finalized.

Months ago, when likely American voters were asked by Pulse Opinion Research if they supported mandatory E-Verify, a majority of 68 percent said yes. Another 71 percent of voters said businesses should be required to hire from pools of Americans with the highest unemployment rates before importing cheaper, foreign workers through various visa programs or hiring illegal aliens.