Anonymous
Post 11/15/2017 11:34     Subject: DCPS made Deal take dozens of OOB, despite overcrowding

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This didn't just happen at Deal. It happened at lots of schools that feed into Wilson. Principals were required to pull off the waitlist to boost numbers. I suspect DCPS realised that their total enrollment numbers were falling relative to last year, and despite these schools being quite overcrowded, they use what tools they had to get overall enrollment up.


You mean relative to charters?

Jesus, this is so depressing.


Bingo. Relative to charters and relative to DCPS growth in prior years.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2017 11:08     Subject: DCPS made Deal take dozens of OOB, despite overcrowding

Anonymous wrote:This didn't just happen at Deal. It happened at lots of schools that feed into Wilson. Principals were required to pull off the waitlist to boost numbers. I suspect DCPS realised that their total enrollment numbers were falling relative to last year, and despite these schools being quite overcrowded, they use what tools they had to get overall enrollment up.


You mean relative to charters?

Jesus, this is so depressing.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2017 11:07     Subject: DCPS made Deal take dozens of OOB, despite overcrowding

This didn't just happen at Deal. It happened at lots of schools that feed into Wilson. Principals were required to pull off the waitlist to boost numbers. I suspect DCPS realised that their total enrollment numbers were falling relative to last year, and despite these schools being quite overcrowded, they use what tools they had to get overall enrollment up.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2017 10:29     Subject: DCPS made Deal take dozens of OOB, despite overcrowding

Central office is fully staffed by morons. I am sure the new chancellor will suck more as time progresses.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2017 09:45     Subject: DCPS made Deal take dozens of OOB, despite overcrowding

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dozens? When?

That is certainly not what MSDC is showing -- which is as of Oct they called 26 people on the 6th grade wait list. Of course it doesn't say how many of those students enrolled.
None were called for 7th or 8th.

Sounds like Deal over-projected last year. It happens. Wasn't it the principal's first year in this role?



Why do you assume they went through MSDC? Surely they would go around it if DCPS wants that.


No, they would not. Not after the brouhaha about Henderson and the special placements.


Don't be silly. DCPS puts kids into schools all the time outside of the lottery process. The brouhaha was about special placements for special people.


Not dozens. And not into Deal. If they had, surely people would have heard about it by now.

As it is, no one realized it until disclosed in a public meeting because the class sizes have not swelled beyond expectations.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2017 09:44     Subject: DCPS made Deal take dozens of OOB, despite overcrowding

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dozens? When?

That is certainly not what MSDC is showing -- which is as of Oct they called 26 people on the 6th grade wait list. Of course it doesn't say how many of those students enrolled.
None were called for 7th or 8th.

Sounds like Deal over-projected last year. It happens. Wasn't it the principal's first year in this role?



Why do you assume they went through MSDC? Surely they would go around it if DCPS wants that.


No, they would not. Not after the brouhaha about Henderson and the special placements.


Don't be silly. DCPS puts kids into schools all the time outside of the lottery process. The brouhaha was about special placements for special people.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2017 09:41     Subject: DCPS made Deal take dozens of OOB, despite overcrowding

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dozens? When?

That is certainly not what MSDC is showing -- which is as of Oct they called 26 people on the 6th grade wait list. Of course it doesn't say how many of those students enrolled.
None were called for 7th or 8th.

Sounds like Deal over-projected last year. It happens. Wasn't it the principal's first year in this role?



Sure, but the idea that DCPS would force them to take more students just to teach them a lesson or whatever in an overcrowded school is insane.


It's not about 'teaching them a lesson' -- it's about maintaining class size parity across the district.

Given the number of students stuffed into honors classes at Hardy (~30), for example it would be unfair if Deal had classes of just 20.


But then these kids help to overstuff Wilson as well.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2017 09:41     Subject: DCPS made Deal take dozens of OOB, despite overcrowding

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dozens? When?

That is certainly not what MSDC is showing -- which is as of Oct they called 26 people on the 6th grade wait list. Of course it doesn't say how many of those students enrolled.
None were called for 7th or 8th.

Sounds like Deal over-projected last year. It happens. Wasn't it the principal's first year in this role?



Why do you assume they went through MSDC? Surely they would go around it if DCPS wants that.


No, they would not. Not after the brouhaha about Henderson and the special placements.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2017 09:40     Subject: DCPS made Deal take dozens of OOB, despite overcrowding

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dozens? When?

That is certainly not what MSDC is showing -- which is as of Oct they called 26 people on the 6th grade wait list. Of course it doesn't say how many of those students enrolled.
None were called for 7th or 8th.

Sounds like Deal over-projected last year. It happens. Wasn't it the principal's first year in this role?



26 is technically dozens.


You don't know that "dozens" enrolled. Could have only been 8-10.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2017 09:40     Subject: DCPS made Deal take dozens of OOB, despite overcrowding

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dozens? When?

That is certainly not what MSDC is showing -- which is as of Oct they called 26 people on the 6th grade wait list. Of course it doesn't say how many of those students enrolled.
None were called for 7th or 8th.

Sounds like Deal over-projected last year. It happens. Wasn't it the principal's first year in this role?



Sure, but the idea that DCPS would force them to take more students just to teach them a lesson or whatever in an overcrowded school is insane.


It's not about 'teaching them a lesson' -- it's about maintaining class size parity across the district.

Given the number of students stuffed into honors classes at Hardy (~30), for example it would be unfair if Deal had classes of just 20.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2017 09:32     Subject: DCPS made Deal take dozens of OOB, despite overcrowding

Anonymous wrote:Dozens? When?

That is certainly not what MSDC is showing -- which is as of Oct they called 26 people on the 6th grade wait list. Of course it doesn't say how many of those students enrolled.
None were called for 7th or 8th.

Sounds like Deal over-projected last year. It happens. Wasn't it the principal's first year in this role?



Sure, but the idea that DCPS would force them to take more students just to teach them a lesson or whatever in an overcrowded school is insane.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2017 09:32     Subject: DCPS made Deal take dozens of OOB, despite overcrowding

Anonymous wrote:Dozens? When?

That is certainly not what MSDC is showing -- which is as of Oct they called 26 people on the 6th grade wait list. Of course it doesn't say how many of those students enrolled.
None were called for 7th or 8th.

Sounds like Deal over-projected last year. It happens. Wasn't it the principal's first year in this role?



26 is technically dozens.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2017 09:31     Subject: DCPS made Deal take dozens of OOB, despite overcrowding

Anonymous wrote:Dozens? When?

That is certainly not what MSDC is showing -- which is as of Oct they called 26 people on the 6th grade wait list. Of course it doesn't say how many of those students enrolled.
None were called for 7th or 8th.

Sounds like Deal over-projected last year. It happens. Wasn't it the principal's first year in this role?



Why do you assume they went through MSDC? Surely they would go around it if DCPS wants that.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2017 09:29     Subject: DCPS made Deal take dozens of OOB, despite overcrowding

Dozens? When?

That is certainly not what MSDC is showing -- which is as of Oct they called 26 people on the 6th grade wait list. Of course it doesn't say how many of those students enrolled.
None were called for 7th or 8th.

Sounds like Deal over-projected last year. It happens. Wasn't it the principal's first year in this role?

Anonymous
Post 11/15/2017 09:25     Subject: DCPS made Deal take dozens of OOB, despite overcrowding

From the Wilson working group last night:

When not as many students as projected enrolled at Deal this year, DCPS ordered Deal’s principal to pull into dozens of students from the waitlist. DCPS said it was to hold schools accountable to meeting projected enrollments. People commented that the school already incredibly over-enrolled, and that removing kids from other schools also seem to penalize the other schools by decreasing their enrollment. DCPS indicated that they would need to be more thoughtful about this process going forward, but wouldn’t commit to any changes.

Also: Lafayette and Janney were identified as not having sufficient space to expand to projected growth by 2025. Lafayette just finished a $78 million expansion, during which they forecast that the school population would decrease when they drew up their plans....

I guess I shouldn't be shocked. But I am shocked.