Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 11:35     Subject: Re:Employer wants to move forward and then ghosted me!
OP here:

Thank you for your feedback. I understand that what I was asking for was way above my previous salary but I have read articles about negotiating so in an attempt to try to do that I may have put myself in a hole. I did state that I would be open to negotiation. I did not expect to have a "deal or no deal situation", this is technically my 2nd job. I would be willing to take the job for the experience and yes it would be an increase in salary compared to what I was making. You live and learn I suppose.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 11:31     Subject: Employer wants to move forward and then ghosted me!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I received a call last week from the employer stating they want to move forward with me. They ask my salary history and for my references. I decline my salary history and instead ask for their hiring range. She states she'd like to know my salary history again so that they won't pay me less than my previous employer. The problem is that I was making mid 40s at my last employer and I want to make ideally in the 60s but bottom line 55. I state I'd prefer to know the range. She agrees and says she'll get back to me. I get an email stating the hiring range is 46-52 and to state my requirements.

I thank her for the information and state I'm looking for 59 (doubt they'd give this but if we can negotiate to 55-57, perfect). She states she'll speak to director and get to me next week. This was last Thursday and it is now Wednesday and I'm feeling extremely anxious. I reached out on Monday to follow up and she basically snapped back, "What is there to discuss, I'll get back to you after I speak to the director". This came off as unprofessional and rude imo.

I am in desperate need of a job, I have been unemployed for 6 months. I have a masters degree but if its not for a position related then I leave it off for fear of being "overqualified". I am late 20s, female, DC metro area, background 5 years admin/2 hr. This position was at a non profit and in HR if that matters.

Advice needed!!


You tried to negotiate 20% out of the range. The decided to move on to another candidate. That is what is sounds like to me.


Yes, and you did it while being cagey about your salary history. They have moved on.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 11:29     Subject: Employer wants to move forward and then ghosted me!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't seem to make sense of the two ideas that you have a bottom line that's 10k higher than your last job, but you're unemployed and desperate for a job.


#millennial


+1 See the thread about the 23 year old without a college degree working in an admin job that got a 25%/$4 raise, but wants MORE. #sotypical
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 11:26     Subject: Re:Employer wants to move forward and then ghosted me!
The only advice is that you now have to sit and wait. You've already followed up once and been told not to anymore, so there's nothing else for you to do. Hopefully they'll get back to you, but unfortunately you may have overplayed your hand a bit here. They know you weren't making anything close to what you're asking for now or you would have provided your salary history to back it up, and you may have come across as difficult by refusing to provide the information when they asked. Most likely they're now talking to another candidate(s), and will come back to you if those don't pan out.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 11:25     Subject: Employer wants to move forward and then ghosted me!
You also sounded pretty pushy about your range, so they might be worried that you aren't easy to work with if they were to hire you.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 11:24     Subject: Employer wants to move forward and then ghosted me!
Anonymous wrote:I received a call last week from the employer stating they want to move forward with me. They ask my salary history and for my references. I decline my salary history and instead ask for their hiring range. She states she'd like to know my salary history again so that they won't pay me less than my previous employer. The problem is that I was making mid 40s at my last employer and I want to make ideally in the 60s but bottom line 55. I state I'd prefer to know the range. She agrees and says she'll get back to me. I get an email stating the hiring range is 46-52 and to state my requirements.

I thank her for the information and state I'm looking for 59 (doubt they'd give this but if we can negotiate to 55-57, perfect). She states she'll speak to director and get to me next week. This was last Thursday and it is now Wednesday and I'm feeling extremely anxious. I reached out on Monday to follow up and she basically snapped back, "What is there to discuss, I'll get back to you after I speak to the director". This came off as unprofessional and rude imo.

I am in desperate need of a job, I have been unemployed for 6 months. I have a masters degree but if its not for a position related then I leave it off for fear of being "overqualified". I am late 20s, female, DC metro area, background 5 years admin/2 hr. This position was at a non profit and in HR if that matters.

Advice needed!!


You tried to negotiate 20% out of the range. The decided to move on to another candidate. That is what is sounds like to me.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 11:20     Subject: Employer wants to move forward and then ghosted me!
Anonymous wrote:I can't seem to make sense of the two ideas that you have a bottom line that's 10k higher than your last job, but you're unemployed and desperate for a job.


I agree. You haven't worked in 6 months yet want a 50% raise?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 11:18     Subject: Employer wants to move forward and then ghosted me!
Anonymous wrote:I can't seem to make sense of the two ideas that you have a bottom line that's 10k higher than your last job, but you're unemployed and desperate for a job.


#millennial
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 11:17     Subject: Employer wants to move forward and then ghosted me!
I can't seem to make sense of the two ideas that you have a bottom line that's 10k higher than your last job, but you're unemployed and desperate for a job.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 11:12     Subject: Employer wants to move forward and then ghosted me!
Why wouldn't you just take this job and keep applying for others??? You're unemployed and need money, presumably?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 11:12     Subject: Employer wants to move forward and then ghosted me!
You should have provided your number at 59. Now you are trying to work out of a hole.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 11:11     Subject: Employer wants to move forward and then ghosted me!
Sounds like you should have given her your salary history and then negotiated from there. Because you're unemployed, you have less negotiating power.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 11:11     Subject: Employer wants to move forward and then ghosted me!
Ideally you would've said something straight away like and up front..."I used to earn $X, but I got these amazeballs benefits that had real value to me, so if the new position's entire compensation package didn't include those amazeball benefits, I'd be looking to start at a salary of $Y to compensate for that"

And if you talked to her on Thursday, she says she'll get back to you next week, and then you follow up on Monday...that's way too soon. You're going to come off as annoying.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 11:10     Subject: Re:Employer wants to move forward and then ghosted me!
They probably will not come up much more than 52 esp since you can only provide your mid-40s salary. Sounds like you need the job, I wouldn't push too hard.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 11:06     Subject: Employer wants to move forward and then ghosted me!
I received a call last week from the employer stating they want to move forward with me. They ask my salary history and for my references. I decline my salary history and instead ask for their hiring range. She states she'd like to know my salary history again so that they won't pay me less than my previous employer. The problem is that I was making mid 40s at my last employer and I want to make ideally in the 60s but bottom line 55. I state I'd prefer to know the range. She agrees and says she'll get back to me. I get an email stating the hiring range is 46-52 and to state my requirements.

I thank her for the information and state I'm looking for 59 (doubt they'd give this but if we can negotiate to 55-57, perfect). She states she'll speak to director and get to me next week. This was last Thursday and it is now Wednesday and I'm feeling extremely anxious. I reached out on Monday to follow up and she basically snapped back, "What is there to discuss, I'll get back to you after I speak to the director". This came off as unprofessional and rude imo.

I am in desperate need of a job, I have been unemployed for 6 months. I have a masters degree but if its not for a position related then I leave it off for fear of being "overqualified". I am late 20s, female, DC metro area, background 5 years admin/2 hr. This position was at a non profit and in HR if that matters.

Advice needed!!