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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the big story supposedly is that NK didn't mention her two adopted older children. Whatever.

I think this line in her acceptance speech is worse:

"I have two little girls, Sunday and Faith, and my darling Keith," Kidman said in her speech. "This is yours. I want my little girls to have this on their shelf and to look at it and go, 'Every time my mommy didn't put me to bed, it's because of this. I got something!'"

Yes, Nicole, I'm sure Sunday and Faith are so, so proud of you and would rather have that tacky statue to look at, as opposed to their mom to actually talk to, any day.

She is alienated (not her choice) from her older kids because she left a cult.They have been brainwashed to hate her. These Scientologists are so deep into the cult, you can't get through to them. What is Nicole Kidman supposed to do? I can't imagine the pain she must feel over that loss.

She didn't exclude her older children. She said she has two "little girls"--that's true. She was making the point that the two who are young enough to need to be put to bed missed her sometimes, but it was for a reason, and this is theirs as well. Her two older children aren't "little." And by the way, she had a lovely moment where she brought her oldest daughter and her mother with her to the Oscars and thanked them and her older son in her Oscar speech.

Yeah, OP, I think you missed the point of her speech. She wasn't trying to exclude anyone; she was emphasizing that it's important to encourage girls to dream too.

She is alienated (not her choice) from her older kids because she left a cult.They have been brainwashed to hate her. These Scientologists are so deep into the cult, you can't get through to them. What is Nicole Kidman supposed to do? I can't imagine the pain she must feel over that loss.

Her older kids disconnected from her and would likely not appreciate her mentioning them, if they were even watching. I cannot imagine how difficult that situation is for NK. Perhaps she was honoring what she assumes are their wishes to not be associated with her, even if it breaks her heart.

She was deep into Scientology, but only because of Tom Cruise. He had the power and once she was gone, there was no "fighting" for her kids, who by that time were already heavy into it as well. Katie Holmes got to keep Suri because she was too young for Scientology school. And you can see how that worked out for having a "mixed" Scientology family. It's all or nothing for this cult.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the big story supposedly is that NK didn't mention her two adopted older children. Whatever.

I think this line in her acceptance speech is worse:

"I have two little girls, Sunday and Faith, and my darling Keith," Kidman said in her speech. "This is yours. I want my little girls to have this on their shelf and to look at it and go, 'Every time my mommy didn't put me to bed, it's because of this. I got something!'"

Yes, Nicole, I'm sure Sunday and Faith are so, so proud of you and would rather have that tacky statue to look at, as opposed to their mom to actually talk to, any day.

She is alienated (not her choice) from her older kids because she left a cult.They have been brainwashed to hate her. These Scientologists are so deep into the cult, you can't get through to them. What is Nicole Kidman supposed to do? I can't imagine the pain she must feel over that loss.

I'm curious, wasn't she deep enough in Scientology circles to know what could happen and fight for her kids? They were still fairly young when they divorced. Surely she had enough dirt on Tom Cruise to put a stop to the suppressive person campaign.

No, the way Scientology works is they will RUIN you if you leave. She's lucky to have her (non scientologist) family for support but when you are deemed a suppressive person, it's a done deal. It's psychological warfare and nonstop attacks and there isn't enough energy to fight. I think she thought when they married like most religions 'ok, he's this religion, I'm not, but no big deal' not knowing that you are either fully in, or you are out. There are lots of couples where there's one who is more fervent or does more to practice and it's no big deal. Not Scientology. There aren't couples were only one is a Scientologist.

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Anonymous wrote:So the big story supposedly is that NK didn't mention her two adopted older children. Whatever.

I think this line in her acceptance speech is worse:

"I have two little girls, Sunday and Faith, and my darling Keith," Kidman said in her speech. "This is yours. I want my little girls to have this on their shelf and to look at it and go, 'Every time my mommy didn't put me to bed, it's because of this. I got something!'"

Yes, Nicole, I'm sure Sunday and Faith are so, so proud of you and would rather have that tacky statue to look at, as opposed to their mom to actually talk to, any day.

She is alienated (not her choice) from her older kids because she left a cult.They have been brainwashed to hate her. These Scientologists are so deep into the cult, you can't get through to them. What is Nicole Kidman supposed to do? I can't imagine the pain she must feel over that loss.

I'm curious, wasn't she deep enough in Scientology circles to know what could happen and fight for her kids? They were still fairly young when they divorced. Surely she had enough dirt on Tom Cruise to put a stop to the suppressive person campaign.

I thought her speech was great

That's not the "big story" at all. Only know nothing nobodies in twitter-verse even mention this. You'd maybe understand if you knew anything about Scientology. FWIW, domestic abuse orgs and victims have thanked her.

Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with you OP?

I grew up with a SAHM and I really wish I hadn't. She left a high flying job to do it and seemed so bored, all the time. I think it gave me a very poor idea of what womanhood meant- suffering and ennui.

Oh, poor you.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the big story supposedly is that NK didn't mention her two adopted older children. Whatever.

I think this line in her acceptance speech is worse:

"I have two little girls, Sunday and Faith, and my darling Keith," Kidman said in her speech. "This is yours. I want my little girls to have this on their shelf and to look at it and go, 'Every time my mommy didn't put me to bed, it's because of this. I got something!'"

Yes, Nicole, I'm sure Sunday and Faith are so, so proud of you and would rather have that tacky statue to look at, as opposed to their mom to actually talk to, any day.

She is alienated (not her choice) from her older kids because she left a cult.They have been brainwashed to hate her. These Scientologists are so deep into the cult, you can't get through to them. What is Nicole Kidman supposed to do? I can't imagine the pain she must feel over that loss.

You totally missed the point of OP's post, of course.

What is wrong with you OP?

I grew up with a SAHM and I really wish I hadn't. She left a high flying job to do it and seemed so bored, all the time. I think it gave me a very poor idea of what womanhood meant- suffering and ennui.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the big story supposedly is that NK didn't mention her two adopted older children. Whatever.

I think this line in her acceptance speech is worse:

"I have two little girls, Sunday and Faith, and my darling Keith," Kidman said in her speech. "This is yours. I want my little girls to have this on their shelf and to look at it and go, 'Every time my mommy didn't put me to bed, it's because of this. I got something!'"

Yes, Nicole, I'm sure Sunday and Faith are so, so proud of you and would rather have that tacky statue to look at, as opposed to their mom to actually talk to, any day.

She is alienated (not her choice) from her older kids because she left a cult.They have been brainwashed to hate her. These Scientologists are so deep into the cult, you can't get through to them. What is Nicole Kidman supposed to do? I can't imagine the pain she must feel over that loss.

She didn't exclude her older children. She said she has two "little girls"--that's true. She was making the point that the two who are young enough to need to be put to bed missed her sometimes, but it was for a reason, and this is theirs as well. Her two older children aren't "little." And by the way, she had a lovely moment where she brought her oldest daughter and her mother with her to the Oscars and thanked them and her older son in her Oscar speech.

Her speech was awkward and it didn't come off well -- I think she was trying to have a Pink moment but fell flat.

Anonymous wrote:So the big story supposedly is that NK didn't mention her two adopted older children. Whatever.

I think this line in her acceptance speech is worse:

"I have two little girls, Sunday and Faith, and my darling Keith," Kidman said in her speech. "This is yours. I want my little girls to have this on their shelf and to look at it and go, 'Every time my mommy didn't put me to bed, it's because of this. I got something!'"

Yes, Nicole, I'm sure Sunday and Faith are so, so proud of you and would rather have that tacky statue to look at, as opposed to their mom to actually talk to, any day.

She is alienated (not her choice) from her older kids because she left a cult.They have been brainwashed to hate her. These Scientologists are so deep into the cult, you can't get through to them. What is Nicole Kidman supposed to do? I can't imagine the pain she must feel over that loss.

Anonymous wrote:It's a little heavy-handed, but as a kid, I'd prefer knowing that my existence didn't hold my mother back from being one of the best at something in the world.

My mother used to go bowling and leave me a note to please do her math homework (she went back to school when I was in 8th grade). She put all those trophies in my room. They were ours.

I think PP may have a very good book in her that she needs to write!

It's a little heavy-handed, but as a kid, I'd prefer knowing that my existence didn't hold my mother back from being one of the best at something in the world.

My mother used to go bowling and leave me a note to please do her math homework (she went back to school when I was in 8th grade). She put all those trophies in my room. They were ours.

So the big story supposedly is that NK didn't mention her two adopted older children. Whatever.

I think this line in her acceptance speech is worse:

"I have two little girls, Sunday and Faith, and my darling Keith," Kidman said in her speech. "This is yours. I want my little girls to have this on their shelf and to look at it and go, 'Every time my mommy didn't put me to bed, it's because of this. I got something!'"

Yes, Nicole, I'm sure Sunday and Faith are so, so proud of you and would rather have that tacky statue to look at, as opposed to their mom to actually talk to, any day.