Anonymous
Post 09/12/2017 21:10     Subject: Re:Yields and Acceptance Rates for Elite Colleges this Year
How much of the lower acceptance rate over the years at these places is due to the school genuinely being more competitive vs just having a lot more unqualified applicants because it's easier to apply to a lot of schools now? I attended Pomona in the mid 90's and if I remember, the acceptance rate at the time I got in was around 30%. I can't imagine the quality of education or school reputation has changed that much since then.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2017 20:48     Subject: Yields and Acceptance Rates for Elite Colleges this Year
OP, thank you!!!!
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2017 20:45     Subject: Yields and Acceptance Rates for Elite Colleges this Year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA's data:

2017--
27.4% admitted, 37.9% yield

2016-
29.9% admitted, 38.1% yield


UVA's in-state acceptance rate was at 39.1%. Despite the gnashing of teeth from NoVa parents, it is still a pretty safe bet for top students in the area.



Nope. It's 27% for this year. And you try telling your public high school counselor that you want the school's support (records, letters of recommendation, statistics, push for your kid) if your child is only an A- students. All high schools, public and private, self-select which students are allowed to apply to UVA. There was no way McLean High school was going to help my A-student get into UVA. So we discussed other options. http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2017/03/uva-acceptance-rates-drop-for-regular-admission-decisions. Also the average GPA to get into UVA is now 4.26 and average ACT scores are 31-34. And 90% of class of 2021 is in the top 10% of their class. 94% of the class of 2020 was in the top 10% of their class. You cannot compare admit figures for UVA (and UCLA and Berkeley for that matter) to rates at SLACs which receive a very different pool of candidate.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2017 20:22     Subject: Yields and Acceptance Rates for Elite Colleges this Year
Why is Emory's yield so low?
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2017 16:29     Subject: Re:Yields and Acceptance Rates for Elite Colleges this Year
Anonymous wrote:Some colleges can and do manipulate yield % by relying more on binding Early Decision (where yield is essentially 100%). UPenn and UChicago both rely on Early Decision more than many to fill a greater percentage of their class. Schools like Stanford, Harvard, Yale and Princeton yield stats become more impressive once you factor in that they don't have Early Decision (rather Single Choice Early Action which is non-binding). So comparing UPenn's yield to Princeton's is comparing apples to oranges. If UPenn didn't have early decision, their yield would likely be in the 40%s. Also, UVA doesn't have early decision which makes a fair comparison with early decision schools difficult.

It would be useful if someone could post % of students accepted via Early Decision at the schools that have Early Decision.


That's true, but the thing is that even at the non-binding schools, the percent of students who applied via EA tends to be as high.

The Crimson reported that more than 50% of Harvard matriculates did REA. A little half of Harvard students got in via REA, period. Factor them out of the equation, and the yield will fall.

I wouldn't be surprised if Princeton's RD yield was in the 50% range compared to 70%+ for SCEA admits.

Anonymous
Post 09/11/2017 14:35     Subject: Yields and Acceptance Rates for Elite Colleges this Year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you excluded legacies, recruited athletes and URMs I bet the acceptance rates for the top 10 are 1%.


Definitely not true for MIT or CalTech. For the others it varies. It's probably over 1% although these schools only accept 5-7% of applicants anyway. know recruited athletes, but I also know regular kids (who did happen to be full-pay, it's true), who got into the top 10 schools.


MIT is very active recruiting athletes. Although the coaches say they have little pull, a qualified kid who plays a sport at the talent level they want, will get the nod over others.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2017 14:34     Subject: Re:Yields and Acceptance Rates for Elite Colleges this Year
Some colleges can and do manipulate yield % by relying more on binding Early Decision (where yield is essentially 100%). UPenn and UChicago both rely on Early Decision more than many to fill a greater percentage of their class. Schools like Stanford, Harvard, Yale and Princeton yield stats become more impressive once you factor in that they don't have Early Decision (rather Single Choice Early Action which is non-binding). So comparing UPenn's yield to Princeton's is comparing apples to oranges. If UPenn didn't have early decision, their yield would likely be in the 40%s. Also, UVA doesn't have early decision which makes a fair comparison with early decision schools difficult.

It would be useful if someone could post % of students accepted via Early Decision at the schools that have Early Decision.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2017 12:56     Subject: Yields and Acceptance Rates for Elite Colleges this Year
Anonymous wrote:UVA's data:

2017--
27.4% admitted, 37.9% yield

2016-
29.9% admitted, 38.1% yield


UVA's in-state acceptance rate was at 39.1%. Despite the gnashing of teeth from NoVa parents, it is still a pretty safe bet for top students in the area.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2017 10:37     Subject: Yields and Acceptance Rates for Elite Colleges this Year
Anonymous wrote:UVA's data:

2017--
27.4% admitted, 37.9% yield

2016-
29.9% admitted, 38.1% yield

UM-Ann Arbor:

2017--
26.5% admitted, 44.2% yield

2016--
28.6% admitted, 42.1% yield

Could not find yield data for UCLA or UC Berkeley.


Interesting, Michigan's yield has increased pretty dramatically in recent years but I am surprised it's higher than UVA. Seems like they get similar proportions of in-state vs out of state applicants, although there is a much higher percentage of OOS students at Michigan.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2017 10:19     Subject: Yields and Acceptance Rates for Elite Colleges this Year
Anonymous wrote:If you excluded legacies, recruited athletes and URMs I bet the acceptance rates for the top 10 are 1%.


Definitely not true for MIT or CalTech. For the others it varies. It's probably over 1% although these schools only accept 5-7% of applicants anyway. know recruited athletes, but I also know regular kids (who did happen to be full-pay, it's true), who got into the top 10 schools.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2017 10:07     Subject: Yields and Acceptance Rates for Elite Colleges this Year
If you excluded legacies, recruited athletes and URMs I bet the acceptance rates for the top 10 are 1%.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2017 08:20     Subject: Yields and Acceptance Rates for Elite Colleges this Year
Anonymous wrote:Thanks. Why are some blue and some green?


Research universities / LAC
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2017 08:13     Subject: Yields and Acceptance Rates for Elite Colleges this Year
Thanks. Why are some blue and some green?
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2017 08:07     Subject: Yields and Acceptance Rates for Elite Colleges this Year
UVA's data:

2017--
27.4% admitted, 37.9% yield

2016-
29.9% admitted, 38.1% yield

UM-Ann Arbor:

2017--
26.5% admitted, 44.2% yield

2016--
28.6% admitted, 42.1% yield

Could not find yield data for UCLA or UC Berkeley.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2017 07:47     Subject: Yields and Acceptance Rates for Elite Colleges this Year
Hi all, I compiled this table a few days ago (with a few updates recently) and thought it would be useful for folks here. It includes yields and acceptance rates across top schools with a comparison to the year before. Most of these numbers account for wait-list activity and "summer melt", though a few do not. I'm missing data for some schools like NU, Vanderbilt, and UChicago, hence their exclusion.

Interesting piece of trivia: Yale, MIT, Caltech, and Pomona organize some college visits together (http://cmpytour.org/). Incidentally, they also happen to be right next to one another in terms of acceptance rates.