Perhaps there is an avenue if you request guardianship. Might want to talk to a lawyer, OP.

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the state. Only a few allow for grandparent rights.

This is always the first question that needs to be answered before anyone can give you an intelligent response.

Anonymous wrote:Might end up doing like we are doing. Waiting for the kids to start asking and calling. And they will.

Then when they reach adulthood we will tell them why we were robbed of seeing them during the young years. We have recordings to back it up too.

Pretty easy to see why you aren't allowed around your grandkids. Wtf?!!

Anonymous wrote:Might end up doing like we are doing. Waiting for the kids to start asking and calling. And they will.

Then when they reach adulthood we will tell them why we were robbed of seeing them during the young years. We have recordings to back it up too.

You record your conversations with your children to use against the later?

I can't imagine why they don't want to have anything to do with you.

Might end up doing like we are doing. Waiting for the kids to start asking and calling. And they will.

Then when they reach adulthood we will tell them why we were robbed of seeing them during the young years. We have recordings to back it up too.

Some states to support a continuing relationships with a de facto parent (someone who has acted like a parent to the child). Are the grandparents willing to go through the courts?

OP, I'm sorry if your DC's choices are standing in the way of a meaningful relationship with your grandkids. You may be able to cultivate a connection with the other parent, but you can't compel them to give access.

Depends on the state. Only a few allow for grandparent rights.

You aren't a parent . You have no legal rights . If you were a legal guardian that would be different

Zero. You are at the mercy of your child and the other parent.

Anonymous wrote:None. So says the supreme court.

That's the legal answer. We'd have to know more to provide the ethical answer.

+1

Grandparents have very few legal rights, especially when their own child (the parent of the grandchildren) is still alive, because the children's parents are presumed to make decisions that are in their best interests.

None

None. So says the supreme court.

That's the legal answer. We'd have to know more to provide the ethical answer.

What are your thoughts on this:

If a father (or even a mother) have issues such as unsavory lifestyle and have supervised visits with their children, or if one parent lives far away and has infrequent visits (like summer) BUT has local (to the primary parent) grandparents, how much "right" do the grandparents have to scheduled frequent visits with grandchildren?