Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My job as your boss is to make you a better writer. I suggest the edits and you make them. You learn what you are supposed to be doing. I don't like doing it this way and wish you could write the document clearly and concisely the first time. The only way you will learn is if I show you the changes to be made.

Yes, I agree it would be faster for the project as a whole, if I would just make the changes in the document.

+1. Exactly.

+2. I thought that this thread was about people who, upon receiving thoughtful and relevant comments or track changes don't make the changes in the next draft. At least pretend that you've incorporated the feedback!

Anonymous wrote:My job as your boss is to make you a better writer. I suggest the edits and you make them. You learn what you are supposed to be doing. I don't like doing it this way and wish you could write the document clearly and concisely the first time. The only way you will learn is if I show you the changes to be made.

Yes, I agree it would be faster for the project as a whole, if I would just make the changes in the document.

Yep, this.

Because it's just easier and less work to tell people what change to make vs. making an actual edit to a document.

Has nothing to do with making you a better writer, or anything like that, people are just lazy.

Anonymous wrote:My job as your boss is to make you a better writer. I suggest the edits and you make them. You learn what you are supposed to be doing. I don't like doing it this way and wish you could write the document clearly and concisely the first time. The only way you will learn is if I show you the changes to be made.

Yes, I agree it would be faster for the project as a whole, if I would just make the changes in the document.

+1. Exactly.

I review a lot of advertising/catalogue copy, written by professional copy writers. If I see how a very simple change will improve the copy, I will draft that change, but if there is an entire clunky sentence, I just flag it as such and expect a graceful rewrite from the paid writer.

My job as your boss is to make you a better writer. I suggest the edits and you make them. You learn what you are supposed to be doing. I don't like doing it this way and wish you could write the document clearly and concisely the first time. The only way you will learn is if I show you the changes to be made.

Yes, I agree it would be faster for the project as a whole, if I would just make the changes in the document.

I'm an overseas consultant from DC, so I felt free to be honest.

Anonymous wrote:Especially when it comes to soft documents, people who refuse to make actual changes to the project are SO ANNOYING. If you are reviewing a document, and write back lengthy explanations about what needs to be fixed and how and why, do you not realize that it would take you LESS TIME to just make the changes in the document? Or (if you are just one out of many reviewers), at the very least, use Track Changes. Don't just write long notes in Track Changes, suggest the ACTUAL CHANGES in Track Changes.

Otherwise, you are just a time-waster, and annoying as all hell.

Lol, I wonder if we work at the same place.

I know we don't we work together, so I'll confess: I leave nice requests for changes in comments linked to my tracked edits. This reflects my vain hope that the recipient will learn to do a better job so I don't have to clean up so much. I put up with it for now as I'm a parent holding a flex position and plan to jump ship as soon as govt hiring picks up in my field. I know I've made a choice to stay, but still have to use a lot of calming mantras when I'm editing people who are intelligent enough to know better but don't care. Webster is my spirit animal and Weird Al Yanokovic's Word Crimes is my anthem. Every. Day. Sometimes I want to ask "Am I the only professional here??"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc

Also, why can't the English learn to speak???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8zhp699FXg

Youtube. It's better than therapy.

Why don't you nicely ask them to do so?

Especially when it comes to soft documents, people who refuse to make actual changes to the project are SO ANNOYING. If you are reviewing a document, and write back lengthy explanations about what needs to be fixed and how and why, do you not realize that it would take you LESS TIME to just make the changes in the document? Or (if you are just one out of many reviewers), at the very least, use Track Changes. Don't just write long notes in Track Changes, suggest the ACTUAL CHANGES in Track Changes.

Otherwise, you are just a time-waster, and annoying as all hell.