Anonymous
Post 07/18/2017 15:02     Subject: Re:Sandburg MS Principal charged with assault after spanking a kid

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I want to see something like this happen in a McLean or Langley feeder. The parents would be up there with torches and calling up the local news.

It's crazy. You don't touch students in an aggressive manner. Hell, you don't touch students period if you can avoid it.

I teach elsewhere, but lived in Belle Haven and heard awful things have Sandburg. I knew a lot of parents (from Belle View, Hollin Meadows, WayneWood, Fort Hunt, and Stratford landing who did elementary, pulled their kids out for private in middle school and then went back to public at West Potomac. It's got a strangely awful reputation in that community.

We chose to move from the area because of other reasons, but the middle school issue is something people talk about down there. Something's just wrong.



If all of these UMC schools feed into Sandburg, why is it so bad?


PP here. Because an equal amount of struggling high poverty schools also feed into this school. It works at West Potomac, but for some reason it is a shit show in the middle school.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2017 14:37     Subject: Sandburg MS Principal charged with assault after spanking a kid

I went to Sandburg in the early 90s. It was terrible back then, too.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2017 14:35     Subject: Sandburg MS Principal charged with assault after spanking a kid

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Lapse of judgement in this day and age. The student probably deserved it, however.



No child ever deserves to be hit for refusing to pick up a piece of trash.

--a teacher


You're right that no student should be hit, however she definitely deserved it after talking back.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2017 14:32     Subject: Re:Sandburg MS Principal charged with assault after spanking a kid

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I want to see something like this happen in a McLean or Langley feeder. The parents would be up there with torches and calling up the local news.

It's crazy. You don't touch students in an aggressive manner. Hell, you don't touch students period if you can avoid it.

I teach elsewhere, but lived in Belle Haven and heard awful things have Sandburg. I knew a lot of parents (from Belle View, Hollin Meadows, WayneWood, Fort Hunt, and Stratford landing who did elementary, pulled their kids out for private in middle school and then went back to public at West Potomac. It's got a strangely awful reputation in that community.

We chose to move from the area because of other reasons, but the middle school issue is something people talk about down there. Something's just wrong.



If all of these UMC schools feed into Sandburg, why is it so bad?


We'll, it certainly sounds like their tone at the top needed some work.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2017 14:31     Subject: Re:Sandburg MS Principal charged with assault after spanking a kid

Anonymous wrote:I want to see something like this happen in a McLean or Langley feeder. The parents would be up there with torches and calling up the local news.

It's crazy. You don't touch students in an aggressive manner. Hell, you don't touch students period if you can avoid it.

I teach elsewhere, but lived in Belle Haven and heard awful things have Sandburg. I knew a lot of parents (from Belle View, Hollin Meadows, WayneWood, Fort Hunt, and Stratford landing who did elementary, pulled their kids out for private in middle school and then went back to public at West Potomac. It's got a strangely awful reputation in that community.

We chose to move from the area because of other reasons, but the middle school issue is something people talk about down there. Something's just wrong.



If all of these UMC schools feed into Sandburg, why is it so bad?
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2017 13:59     Subject: Re:Sandburg MS Principal charged with assault after spanking a kid

“I said, ‘Girl, if you don’t pick that up, I’m going to spank you.’

Wow.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2017 13:48     Subject: Sandburg MS Principal charged with assault after spanking a kid

Surprised this didn't make the news until now. PP is right. In the RRMS/Franklin/Carson feeder patterns, like Langley and McLean, this sh* t would have hit the fan. Bigly.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2017 13:38     Subject: Sandburg MS Principal charged with assault after spanking a kid

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Illegal, yes, but I bet the kid deserved it. Can't fault the principal for doing SOMETHING.


Yes. You can fault the principal for hitting a kid, which is illegal. Sure-- consequences might be warranted here, although we do not have all the facts. . Detention, sure. A sit down with parents, okay. Removal from extracurriculars. Even suspension, if this is not the first strike. But hitting a kid, no matter how annoying, or how severe their actions, is really terrible judgment. FCPS has a detailed discipline policy. Principals can and should do something. They can and should follow the consequences in the discipline policy.

Is this how ya'll run things in the Eastern County? Because if the Carson principal did this, the principal would have been suspended the next day. This was in April, and is just now coming out.


Did you read the article?

The kid immediately reported it to a teacher who immediately initated the appropriate report and the principal was removed quickly. The incident happened months ago, but he hasn't been there for months and has long ago resigned. The legal system moved slower than the school system in this case.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2017 13:36     Subject: Sandburg MS Principal charged with assault after spanking a kid

Anonymous wrote:
Lapse of judgement in this day and age. The student probably deserved it, however.



No child ever deserves to be hit for refusing to pick up a piece of trash.

--a teacher
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2017 13:34     Subject: Sandburg MS Principal charged with assault after spanking a kid

Anonymous wrote:Illegal, yes, but I bet the kid deserved it. Can't fault the principal for doing SOMETHING.


Yes. You can fault the principal for hitting a kid, which is illegal. Sure-- consequences might be warranted here, although we do not have all the facts. . Detention, sure. A sit down with parents, okay. Removal from extracurriculars. Even suspension, if this is not the first strike. But hitting a kid, no matter how annoying, or how severe their actions, is really terrible judgment. FCPS has a detailed discipline policy. Principals can and should do something. They can and should follow the consequences in the discipline policy.

Is this how ya'll run things in the Eastern County? Because if the Carson principal did this, the principal would have been suspended the next day. This was in April, and is just now coming out.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2017 13:27     Subject: Re:Sandburg MS Principal charged with assault after spanking a kid

I want to see something like this happen in a McLean or Langley feeder. The parents would be up there with torches and calling up the local news.

It's crazy. You don't touch students in an aggressive manner. Hell, you don't touch students period if you can avoid it.

I teach elsewhere, but lived in Belle Haven and heard awful things have Sandburg. I knew a lot of parents (from Belle View, Hollin Meadows, WayneWood, Fort Hunt, and Stratford landing who did elementary, pulled their kids out for private in middle school and then went back to public at West Potomac. It's got a strangely awful reputation in that community.

We chose to move from the area because of other reasons, but the middle school issue is something people talk about down there. Something's just wrong.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2017 13:17     Subject: Sandburg MS Principal charged with assault after spanking a kid

Illegal, yes, but I bet the kid deserved it. Can't fault the principal for doing SOMETHING.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2017 13:16     Subject: Sandburg MS Principal charged with assault after spanking a kid


Lapse of judgement in this day and age. The student probably deserved it, however.

Anonymous
Post 07/18/2017 13:15     Subject: Sandburg MS Principal charged with assault after spanking a kid

I can't imagine how he thought this was appropriate.