Anonymous
Post 05/21/2017 08:34     Subject: 6 Baltimore public schools where not a single student tested "proficient"
Anonymous wrote:

Are you serious? Children can't help themselves? Even middle schoolers and teens? Is this society we are to believe is true. Stop playing the victim. They can't learn how to read, ask the school for help, ask guidance counselors for potential jobs? Actually graduate??? Yes, they can help themselves.



Those lazy kindergartners, failing to raise themselves up by their own bootstraps.

(Also, if you want me to stop 'playing the victim", you will first have to explain how I am "playing the victim".)
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2017 08:28     Subject: 6 Baltimore public schools where not a single student tested "proficient"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I agree 100%

You can't help people that don't want to help themselves. Welfare should come with mandatory volunteer hours if they aren't employed full time. Mandatory drug tests as well. I get them random for my employment, why not them?

The only thing our society should provide free is birth control. So much cheaper than the free abortions and free welfare for 18+ years for the unwanted child b


It does. Since the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996, aka "ending welfare as we know it". After which the proportion of poor families who receive cash assistance shrank enormously, and continues to shrink. Currently only about 23 in 100 poor families receive cash assistance from welfare nationwide -- ranging from 4 in 100 in Louisiana to 65 in 100 in California.

http://www.cbpp.org/research/family-income-support/tanf-reaching-few-poor-families

That doesn't look like a safety net to me.

As for, why not mandatory drug testing? Because it costs more than it saves; because people on public assistance use drugs at the same rate as people not on public assistance; and because it's unconstitutional.

Finally, how are children supposed to be helping themselves?

Are you serious? Children can't help themselves? Even middle schoolers and teens? Is this society we are to believe is true. Stop playing the victim. They can't learn how to read, ask the school for help, ask guidance counselors for potential jobs? Actually graduate??? Yes, they can help themselves.

Anonymous
Post 05/21/2017 08:21     Subject: 6 Baltimore public schools where not a single student tested "proficient"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Wrong. As a society we have spent TRILLIONS of dollars on the war on poverty. All it has done is create a leeching dependent class of people that breed more leeching depending children.
I think we need to cut off all aid for 1.5 generations and let nature correct itself.


I hope that you don't consider yourself a Christian.


Are you? Should we all pray for less gun downs and illiterate kids? Can't be the parents fault. It can't be the inner city mentality's fault. Can't be the child's fault. Can't be the school systems fault?


No, I'm not a Christian. But I agree with Matthew 25:31-46. Do you?
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2017 08:19     Subject: 6 Baltimore public schools where not a single student tested "proficient"
Anonymous wrote:

I agree 100%

You can't help people that don't want to help themselves. Welfare should come with mandatory volunteer hours if they aren't employed full time. Mandatory drug tests as well. I get them random for my employment, why not them?

The only thing our society should provide free is birth control. So much cheaper than the free abortions and free welfare for 18+ years for the unwanted child b


It does. Since the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996, aka "ending welfare as we know it". After which the proportion of poor families who receive cash assistance shrank enormously, and continues to shrink. Currently only about 23 in 100 poor families receive cash assistance from welfare nationwide -- ranging from 4 in 100 in Louisiana to 65 in 100 in California.

http://www.cbpp.org/research/family-income-support/tanf-reaching-few-poor-families

That doesn't look like a safety net to me.

As for, why not mandatory drug testing? Because it costs more than it saves; because people on public assistance use drugs at the same rate as people not on public assistance; and because it's unconstitutional.

Finally, how are children supposed to be helping themselves?

Anonymous
Post 05/21/2017 08:10     Subject: 6 Baltimore public schools where not a single student tested "proficient"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Wrong. As a society we have spent TRILLIONS of dollars on the war on poverty. All it has done is create a leeching dependent class of people that breed more leeching depending children.
I think we need to cut off all aid for 1.5 generations and let nature correct itself.


I hope that you don't consider yourself a Christian.


Are you? Should we all pray for less gun downs and illiterate kids? Can't be the parents fault. It can't be the inner city mentality's fault. Can't be the child's fault. Can't be the school systems fault?
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2017 08:07     Subject: 6 Baltimore public schools where not a single student tested "proficient"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This investigative report is depressing.

http://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/6-baltimore-schools-no-students-proficient-in-state-tests

It is 2017. How can Baltimore public schools still be so bad?

How many more generations of kids will go without an education before we, as a society, say enough is enough?


Because we, as a society, don't want to commit the resources to the things that would actually improve the chances of children born to poor black parents in cities (actually of children born to poor parents of any race in rural, suburban, or urban areas), and then we blame the schools for our own failure as a society.


Wrong. As a society we have spent TRILLIONS of dollars on the war on poverty. All it has done is create a leeching dependent class of people that breed more leeching depending children.
I think we need to cut off all aid for 1.5 generations and let nature correct itself.


I agree 100%

You can't help people that don't want to help themselves. Welfare should come with mandatory volunteer hours if they aren't employed full time. Mandatory drug tests as well. I get them random for my employment, why not them?

The only thing our society should provide free is birth control. So much cheaper than the free abortions and free welfare for 18+ years for the unwanted child b
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2017 08:02     Subject: 6 Baltimore public schools where not a single student tested "proficient"
Anonymous wrote:

Wrong. As a society we have spent TRILLIONS of dollars on the war on poverty. All it has done is create a leeching dependent class of people that breed more leeching depending children.
I think we need to cut off all aid for 1.5 generations and let nature correct itself.


I hope that you don't consider yourself a Christian.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2017 08:01     Subject: 6 Baltimore public schools where not a single student tested "proficient"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This investigative report is depressing.

http://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/6-baltimore-schools-no-students-proficient-in-state-tests

It is 2017. How can Baltimore public schools still be so bad?

How many more generations of kids will go without an education before we, as a society, say enough is enough?


Because we, as a society, don't want to commit the resources to the things that would actually improve the chances of children born to poor black parents in cities (actually of children born to poor parents of any race in rural, suburban, or urban areas), and then we blame the schools for our own failure as a society.


Wrong. As a society we have spent TRILLIONS of dollars on the war on poverty. All it has done is create a leeching dependent class of people that breed more leeching depending children.
I think we need to cut off all aid for 1.5 generations and let nature correct itself.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2017 07:54     Subject: 6 Baltimore public schools where not a single student tested "proficient"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This investigative report is depressing.

http://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/6-baltimore-schools-no-students-proficient-in-state-tests

It is 2017. How can Baltimore public schools still be so bad?

How many more generations of kids will go without an education before we, as a society, say enough is enough?


Because we, as a society, don't want to commit the resources to the things that would actually improve the chances of children born to poor black parents in cities (actually of children born to poor parents of any race in rural, suburban, or urban areas), and then we blame the schools for our own failure as a society.


In your mind, what are the things that we fail to provide?


I don't think that's the right question. The right questions are:

1. How does growing up in systemic poverty harm children?
2. What policies could ameliorate the effects of child poverty?

There's plenty of stuff about this easily available on the Internet, if you're interested.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2017 07:49     Subject: 6 Baltimore public schools where not a single student tested "proficient"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This investigative report is depressing.

http://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/6-baltimore-schools-no-students-proficient-in-state-tests

It is 2017. How can Baltimore public schools still be so bad?

How many more generations of kids will go without an education before we, as a society, say enough is enough?


Because we, as a society, don't want to commit the resources to the things that would actually improve the chances of children born to poor black parents in cities (actually of children born to poor parents of any race in rural, suburban, or urban areas), and then we blame the schools for our own failure as a society.


Really? What do you think we should be doing that we are not? What resources exactly do you think would make a difference here?
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2017 07:31     Subject: 6 Baltimore public schools where not a single student tested "proficient"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This investigative report is depressing.

http://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/6-baltimore-schools-no-students-proficient-in-state-tests

It is 2017. How can Baltimore public schools still be so bad?

How many more generations of kids will go without an education before we, as a society, say enough is enough?


Because we, as a society, don't want to commit the resources to the things that would actually improve the chances of children born to poor black parents in cities (actually of children born to poor parents of any race in rural, suburban, or urban areas), and then we blame the schools for our own failure as a society.


In your mind, what are the things that we fail to provide?
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2017 06:32     Subject: 6 Baltimore public schools where not a single student tested "proficient"
Anonymous wrote:This investigative report is depressing.

http://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/6-baltimore-schools-no-students-proficient-in-state-tests

It is 2017. How can Baltimore public schools still be so bad?

How many more generations of kids will go without an education before we, as a society, say enough is enough?


Because we, as a society, don't want to commit the resources to the things that would actually improve the chances of children born to poor black parents in cities (actually of children born to poor parents of any race in rural, suburban, or urban areas), and then we blame the schools for our own failure as a society.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2017 23:22     Subject: 6 Baltimore public schools where not a single student tested "proficient"
Interesting the mom's comments, placing blame on the teachers. If my children tested as not "proficient" every single year, I would not be blaming all those teachers. If most of the men in my son's family were gunned down, I would move. These kids have terrible, terrible home lives.
It is not surprising they are basically illiterate.
The only surprising thing about this article is the boy going to college. How can he possibly pass college courses?
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2017 23:01     Subject: Re:6 Baltimore public schools where not a single student tested "proficient"
I know someone who used to teach at one of those schools. Her stories were amazing. Kids cruising the halls all day refusing to go to class. Kids smoking pot in the stairwells. Kids vandalizing the closed sections of the building. Kids attacking staff. Kids bringing weapons to school. Her classroom computer was thrown out the window onto a lower level overhang. She said the few bright, motivated kids got into City and Poly or Digital Harbor. They were smart enough to get the hell out of there. She said the school reminded her of the movie Lean On Me except they couldn't get rid of the trouble makers like they did at the beginning of the movie. She didn't teach at this school but this will give you an idea what these schools are like:

https://www.amazon.com/Teaching-Terrordome-Years-Baltimore-America/dp/0826219861
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2017 22:48     Subject: 6 Baltimore public schools where not a single student tested "proficient"
This investigative report is depressing.

http://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/6-baltimore-schools-no-students-proficient-in-state-tests

It is 2017. How can Baltimore public schools still be so bad?

How many more generations of kids will go without an education before we, as a society, say enough is enough?