Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 20:54     Subject: Our so-called democracy is a farse

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/democracy-is-not-your-plaything-1495149082

Mr. Trump’s longtime foes, especially Democrats and progressives, are in the throes of a kind of obsessive delight. Every new blunder, every suggestion of an illegality, gives them pleasure. “He’ll be gone by autumn.”

But he was duly and legally elected by tens of millions of Americans who had legitimate reasons to support him, who knew they were throwing the long ball, and who, polls suggest, continue to support him. They believe the press is trying to kill him. “He’s new, not a politician, give him a chance.” What would it do to them, what would it say to them, to have him brusquely removed by his enemies after so little time? Would it tell them democracy is a con, the swamp always wins, you nobodies can make your little choices but we’re in control? What will that do to their faith in our institutions, in democracy itself?"

But there’s an emerging sense of tragedy, isn’t there? Crucially needed reforms in taxing, regulation and infrastructure—changes the country needs!—are thwarted, all momentum killed. Markets are nervous.

The world sees the U.S. political system once again as a circus. Once the circus comes to town, it consumes everything, absorbs all energy.

I asked the ambassador to the U.S. from one of our greatest allies: “What does Europe say now when America leaves the room?” You’re still great, he said, but “we think you’re having a nervous breakdown.”


Well, for the 3 million more of us who voted for the other candidate, having him removed so quickly would be an indication that our checks and balances work and that our constitution is strong and that this country will not stand by and watch grift and corruption destroy it.

Trump, by the way, was not elected by a democracy. He was elected by the electoral system. The majority of voters voted for someone else.

As for giving him "a chance" - he had it and he blew it starting from day one.


He won 84% of the counties.

If you don't like him, vote him out in 4 years. You had your chance on November 8, you lost. Get over it.


I am over it. And now I'm enjoying watching his presidency implode.

By the way, the percentage of counties voting for a candidate doesn't have anything to do with the definition of democracy. Look it up.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 20:53     Subject: Our so-called democracy is a farse

Only because the president is an arse.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 20:32     Subject: Our so-called democracy is a farse

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/democracy-is-not-your-plaything-1495149082

Mr. Trump’s longtime foes, especially Democrats and progressives, are in the throes of a kind of obsessive delight. Every new blunder, every suggestion of an illegality, gives them pleasure. “He’ll be gone by autumn.”

But he was duly and legally elected by tens of millions of Americans who had legitimate reasons to support him, who knew they were throwing the long ball, and who, polls suggest, continue to support him. They believe the press is trying to kill him. “He’s new, not a politician, give him a chance.” What would it do to them, what would it say to them, to have him brusquely removed by his enemies after so little time? Would it tell them democracy is a con, the swamp always wins, you nobodies can make your little choices but we’re in control? What will that do to their faith in our institutions, in democracy itself?"

But there’s an emerging sense of tragedy, isn’t there? Crucially needed reforms in taxing, regulation and infrastructure—changes the country needs!—are thwarted, all momentum killed. Markets are nervous.

The world sees the U.S. political system once again as a circus. Once the circus comes to town, it consumes everything, absorbs all energy.

I asked the ambassador to the U.S. from one of our greatest allies: “What does Europe say now when America leaves the room?” You’re still great, he said, but “we think you’re having a nervous breakdown.”


Well, for the 3 million more of us who voted for the other candidate, having him removed so quickly would be an indication that our checks and balances work and that our constitution is strong and that this country will not stand by and watch grift and corruption destroy it.

Trump, by the way, was not elected by a democracy. He was elected by the electoral system. The majority of voters voted for someone else.

As for giving him "a chance" - he had it and he blew it starting from day one.


He won 84% of the counties.

If you don't like him, vote him out in 4 years. You had your chance on November 8, you lost. Get over it.

Maybe we should speak in small words next time so you understand. No one needs to get over anything. Grow up.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 20:32     Subject: Our so-called democracy is a farse

See, this is the boo-hoo woe is me special snowflake mentality that Republicans need to get over. It is killing this presidency.

The only one hurting Trump voter is Trump. The only one delegitimizing the Trump presidency is Trump. He is suffering death by a thousand paper cuts. But every single one is self inflicted.

For example, he could, say, NOT TWEET. He could not tell a journalist on live TV that he fired Comey over Russia. He could not fire Comey in the first place. He could have not hired someone whom he knew to be compromised by Russia for NSA. And then refused to fire them when it came to light. But he chose to do all these things. And many more.

I am over the poor downtrodden voiceless Trump voter and poor victimizied Trump narrative. Trump voters made a terrible choice and crammed it down America's throats in a minority vote. If they did want Her, they should have chosen someone who wasn't a dumpsterfire as their nominee. And Trump has made a never ending series of terrible choices.

And now Trump and the poor, beleaguered Trump voter need to STFU, stop playing world's smallest violin, and realize that actions and elections have consequences.

But quit whining. You won!
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 20:31     Subject: Our so-called democracy is a farse

A 'farse'? More like a horse's arse.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 20:29     Subject: Our so-called democracy is a farse

Anonymous wrote:

He won 84% of the counties.

If you don't like him, vote him out in 4 years. You had your chance on November 8, you lost. Get over it.


Counties don't vote. Electors vote (in the case of the presidential election; otherwise, people vote).

I am starting to wonder why some Trump supporters seem to find it impossible to imagine that people are actually sincerely outraged by the stuff Trump is doing. Maybe it's projection? I.e., they weren't actually sincerely outraged by the stuff Obama did that they said they were outraged by?

Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 20:27     Subject: Re:Our so-called democracy is a farse

trump was NOT elected by a democracy - as in the majority of voters. That is a very simple FACT that cannot be disputed.

He has also managed to f - up at every turn so, yeah - we, the majority, want him gone. That, my Friend, is Democracy. Love it or leave it.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 20:26     Subject: Re:Our so-called democracy is a farse

Anonymous wrote:It's also "farce"

And it's been created by Trump. This is ALL his doing.


This. So far, there is nothing that has happened that isn't entirely of his own doing and undoing.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 20:24     Subject: Our so-called democracy is a farse

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/democracy-is-not-your-plaything-1495149082

Mr. Trump’s longtime foes, especially Democrats and progressives, are in the throes of a kind of obsessive delight. Every new blunder, every suggestion of an illegality, gives them pleasure. “He’ll be gone by autumn.”

But he was duly and legally elected by tens of millions of Americans who had legitimate reasons to support him, who knew they were throwing the long ball, and who, polls suggest, continue to support him. They believe the press is trying to kill him. “He’s new, not a politician, give him a chance.” What would it do to them, what would it say to them, to have him brusquely removed by his enemies after so little time? Would it tell them democracy is a con, the swamp always wins, you nobodies can make your little choices but we’re in control? What will that do to their faith in our institutions, in democracy itself?"

But there’s an emerging sense of tragedy, isn’t there? Crucially needed reforms in taxing, regulation and infrastructure—changes the country needs!—are thwarted, all momentum killed. Markets are nervous.

The world sees the U.S. political system once again as a circus. Once the circus comes to town, it consumes everything, absorbs all energy.

I asked the ambassador to the U.S. from one of our greatest allies: “What does Europe say now when America leaves the room?” You’re still great, he said, but “we think you’re having a nervous breakdown.”


Well, for the 3 million more of us who voted for the other candidate, having him removed so quickly would be an indication that our checks and balances work and that our constitution is strong and that this country will not stand by and watch grift and corruption destroy it.

Trump, by the way, was not elected by a democracy. He was elected by the electoral system. The majority of voters voted for someone else.

As for giving him "a chance" - he had it and he blew it starting from day one.


He won 84% of the counties.

If you don't like him, vote him out in 4 years. You had your chance on November 8, you lost. Get over it.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 20:22     Subject: Our so-called democracy is a farse

“He’s new, not a politician, give him a chance.”

POTUS is not a learn on the job position. There is no HR-directed probationary period.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 20:21     Subject: Re:Our so-called democracy is a farse

Anonymous wrote:It's also "farce"

And it's been created by Trump. This is ALL his doing.


Agreed. It's all being driven by one personality.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 20:16     Subject: Re:Our so-called democracy is a farse

It's also "farce"

And it's been created by Trump. This is ALL his doing.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 20:13     Subject: Our so-called democracy is a farse

Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/democracy-is-not-your-plaything-1495149082

Mr. Trump’s longtime foes, especially Democrats and progressives, are in the throes of a kind of obsessive delight. Every new blunder, every suggestion of an illegality, gives them pleasure. “He’ll be gone by autumn.”

But he was duly and legally elected by tens of millions of Americans who had legitimate reasons to support him, who knew they were throwing the long ball, and who, polls suggest, continue to support him. They believe the press is trying to kill him. “He’s new, not a politician, give him a chance.” What would it do to them, what would it say to them, to have him brusquely removed by his enemies after so little time? Would it tell them democracy is a con, the swamp always wins, you nobodies can make your little choices but we’re in control? What will that do to their faith in our institutions, in democracy itself?"

But there’s an emerging sense of tragedy, isn’t there? Crucially needed reforms in taxing, regulation and infrastructure—changes the country needs!—are thwarted, all momentum killed. Markets are nervous.

The world sees the U.S. political system once again as a circus. Once the circus comes to town, it consumes everything, absorbs all energy.

I asked the ambassador to the U.S. from one of our greatest allies: “What does Europe say now when America leaves the room?” You’re still great, he said, but “we think you’re having a nervous breakdown.”


Well, for the 3 million more of us who voted for the other candidate, having him removed so quickly would be an indication that our checks and balances work and that our constitution is strong and that this country will not stand by and watch grift and corruption destroy it.

Trump, by the way, was not elected by a democracy. He was elected by the electoral system. The majority of voters voted for someone else.

As for giving him "a chance" - he had it and he blew it starting from day one.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 20:11     Subject: Our so-called democracy is a farse

I agree completely -- democracy is not our plaything. I take it very seriously. Which is why I'm deeply concerned about Russian meddling in the 2016 election, and also why I think that the American people deserve to know the truth about the Trump-Russia connections and all of the stuff incidental to the connections (like firing the guy who's investigating you). Trump is the duly-elected president, not the duly-elected king.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 20:06     Subject: Our so-called democracy is a farse

https://www.wsj.com/articles/democracy-is-not-your-plaything-1495149082

Mr. Trump’s longtime foes, especially Democrats and progressives, are in the throes of a kind of obsessive delight. Every new blunder, every suggestion of an illegality, gives them pleasure. “He’ll be gone by autumn.”

But he was duly and legally elected by tens of millions of Americans who had legitimate reasons to support him, who knew they were throwing the long ball, and who, polls suggest, continue to support him. They believe the press is trying to kill him. “He’s new, not a politician, give him a chance.” What would it do to them, what would it say to them, to have him brusquely removed by his enemies after so little time? Would it tell them democracy is a con, the swamp always wins, you nobodies can make your little choices but we’re in control? What will that do to their faith in our institutions, in democracy itself?"

But there’s an emerging sense of tragedy, isn’t there? Crucially needed reforms in taxing, regulation and infrastructure—changes the country needs!—are thwarted, all momentum killed. Markets are nervous.

The world sees the U.S. political system once again as a circus. Once the circus comes to town, it consumes everything, absorbs all energy.

I asked the ambassador to the U.S. from one of our greatest allies: “What does Europe say now when America leaves the room?” You’re still great, he said, but “we think you’re having a nervous breakdown.”