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Anonymous wrote:Who cares? Most of us are being treated like shit anyway. At least some blue collar jobs still have union.

+100

America's obsession with the proper job title and blue collar vs. white collar is laughable.

Know what jobs are respected in other countries? Jobs. That's it. Having a job is respected.

I grew up in France and my father was garbage man. When I tell people in the US what my father did, they make a face and some say, "oh, sorry, I didn't realize." as if I should be ashamed that he went to work each day and provided for his family. I actually had one friend (now ex-friend) tell me that I shouldn't demean him by not calling him a sanitation engineer!

I don't look down on any workers. I admire my doctors who had the intelligence and drive to follow that path. I also admire that my lawn service guy can transform an ugly patch of land into a beautiful garden for me. I appreciate the bathroom attendant at fancy restaurants who goes in after each person uses the bathroom to make sure the seats are free of pee sprinkles.

Who cares?

Anonymous wrote:What do you consider jobs like physical therapist, occupational therapist, etc.? White collar or blue collar?

Physical therapy requires a doctoral degree.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares? Most of us are being treated like shit anyway. At least some blue collar jobs still have union.

i work at a large financial company. I work in an open area, sitting at a long desk, I have 24 inches of space, and surrounded by Indian H1Bs from Hexaware. I have no space for personal items. I have no space for thinking. My productivity is a low as it can get yet some MBA got a promotion for saving money on office space.

software developers need a union.

Then get your coworkers together and unionize. What's stopping you?

if I speak up I am fired. they have terminated most of the white people my age over the last 8 years. I know, I am keeping a list.

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most of the developers are now H1B guest workers. How do we organize when the majority of labor is legalized temp workers?

I have a lot of respect for union leaders that have organized over the years. coal miners had fear of dying on the job.

Being an H1B doesn't prevent them from joining. If you're serious, contact the computer and communication workers union. They will do all the heavy lifting for you. And tell them you're concerned about being fired by speaking up. That of course would be illegal.

Btw I hope you're keeping your list in a safe place. If you are terminated, invest in an hour with a good employment law attorney.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares? Most of us are being treated like shit anyway. At least some blue collar jobs still have union.

i work at a large financial company. I work in an open area, sitting at a long desk, I have 24 inches of space, and surrounded by Indian H1Bs from Hexaware. I have no space for personal items. I have no space for thinking. My productivity is a low as it can get yet some MBA got a promotion for saving money on office space.

software developers need a union.

Then get your coworkers together and unionize. What's stopping you?

if I speak up I am fired. they have terminated most of the white people my age over the last 8 years. I know, I am keeping a list.

and

most of the developers are now H1B guest workers. How do we organize when the majority of labor is legalized temp workers?

I have a lot of respect for union leaders that have organized over the years. coal miners had fear of dying on the job.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares? Most of us are being treated like shit anyway. At least some blue collar jobs still have union.

i work at a large financial company. I work in an open area, sitting at a long desk, I have 24 inches of space, and surrounded by Indian H1Bs from Hexaware. I have no space for personal items. I have no space for thinking. My productivity is a low as it can get yet some MBA got a promotion for saving money on office space.

software developers need a union.

Then get your coworkers together and unionize. What's stopping you?

Anonymous wrote:Who cares? Most of us are being treated like shit anyway. At least some blue collar jobs still have union.

i work at a large financial company. I work in an open area, sitting at a long desk, I have 24 inches of space, and surrounded by Indian H1Bs from Hexaware. I have no space for personal items. I have no space for thinking. My productivity is a low as it can get yet some MBA got a promotion for saving money on office space.

software developers need a union.

Who cares? Most of us are being treated like shit anyway. At least some blue collar jobs still have union.

Likely white collar. They don't fit neatly into a particular category, I suppose.

Anonymous wrote:Those are jobs that typically today require a masters degree, so I would say white collar. Blue collar jobs are generally those that don't require a college degree.

Why?

You would be surprised at how factory jobs at GM now require college degrees. The technical training is much higher than it used to be.

Those are jobs that typically today require a masters degree, so I would say white collar. Blue collar jobs are generally those that don't require a college degree.

Why?

What do you consider jobs like physical therapist, occupational therapist, etc.? White collar or blue collar?