Anonymous wrote:Anyway. If any adult takes advantage of a minor could of mine on school grounds I will sue. If I find out that that adult has reason to be kept away from my kids, I would sue for even more.

So it's OK if a juvenile takes advantage of your kid?

Anonymous wrote:What about janitors.

I see what you did there. Clever and on point.

Anyway. If any adult takes advantage of a minor could of mine on school grounds I will sue. If I find out that that adult has reason to be kept away from my kids, I would sue for even more.

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Anonymous wrote:Adults are more able to exert control over children. This puts the child at a disadvantage. A 13 or 14 year old ninth grader can not hold his or her own over a 19 year old ninth grader. Criminal records would help the school assess risk to the other students.

There are extensive laws and regulations on the books about when, why, and how a school can remove a student. If you want to lobby for changes to that system, figure out what they are and find a non-profit organization willing to take it on.

(A 13-year-old 9th grader would be rare by the way -- only in jurisdictions with Dec. 31 cut offs or they'd have to start early and that was the parent's doing. My on-time 13-yo is in 7th and will be 18 for all of senior year. October boy; cut off for K is 5 by 9/30)

Kids as young as that go to the high schools to take advanced classes.

Anonymous wrote:Adults are more able to exert control over children. This puts the child at a disadvantage. A 13 or 14 year old ninth grader can not hold his or her own over a 19 year old ninth grader. Criminal records would help the school assess risk to the other students.

There are extensive laws and regulations on the books about when, why, and how a school can remove a student. If you want to lobby for changes to that system, figure out what they are and find a non-profit organization willing to take it on.

(A 13-year-old 9th grader would be rare by the way -- only in jurisdictions with Dec. 31 cut offs or they'd have to start early and that was the parent's doing. My on-time 13-yo is in 7th and will be 18 for all of senior year. October boy; cut off for K is 5 by 9/30)

Adults are more able to exert control over children. This puts the child at a disadvantage. A 13 or 14 year old ninth grader can not hold his or her own over a 19 year old ninth grader. Criminal records would help the school assess risk to the other students.

What about janitors.

Anonymous wrote:Subject them to the same background checks that the teachers have to go through.

Students, no matter what their ages, are not teachers. They are not employed by the school district. They do not have authority over other students as teachers do. They are not responsible for teaching the curriculum, evaluating student progress, or assigning grades. They are not in charge of determining consequences for rule infractions. They do not write references for college. They are not teachers, and they do not need to go through the background checks that are required of teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:I want to know if my children are in school with adults who have committed crimes.

You have zero access to juvenile records, and "that" is where all the stuff happens. The slate is wiped clean when they turn 18. So that narrow window of 18 year olds or so, won't have much adult criminal record to show.

No one wants the juvenile records. Just the adult. Stuff happens two days after a kid becomes an adult.

Anonymous wrote:I want to know if my children are in school with adults who have committed crimes.

You have zero access to juvenile records, and "that" is where all the stuff happens. The slate is wiped clean when they turn 18. So that narrow window of 18 year olds or so, won't have much adult criminal record to show.

I want to know if my children are in school with adults who have committed crimes.

There is no background check being done when you scan your license. All it's doing is logging your name. People with criminal records still have the right to a public education. It's up to the school to decide if there is violent behavior. Obviously, someone with a rape conviction is not going to be allowed in a regular school, but I don't see a problem with a drug or alcohol conviction. It doesn't indicate a danger to the other students. It's really weird that you think it does. Or, are you just so nosey you want access to everyone's criminal case file?

So what database did your ID get run through? Are you volunteering with the kids? Or did they just make sure your name matched one of your kid's authorized pick-up names?

How would a DUI make someone dangerous in school? They've already lost their license (for a while at least). Isn't that good enough? A drug arrest also doesn't indicate violent behavior. You're just trying to impose your believe that foreigners are violent criminals. You should find a nice all-white school to send your children.

I just went to my kids school today and had to show ID to enter the building past the office. Good rule. But why not ask kids over 18 to have a searchable ID that is registered and frequently run through the same database that mine was run through. Subject them to the same background checks that the teachers have to go through.
It is an unfavorable opinion that illegal residents are in fact breaking the law, so should they be alllowed around our kids? If one of the 18 year olds already has a DUI, should the kids have the right to know? What about drug arrests?