Anonymous
Post 03/31/2017 08:33     Subject: What are our chances of getting in w/these scores?

It's hard to imagine that a kid with a 14 GBRS and a WISC in the 97th percentile wouldn't get in. Kids with much lower scores seem to get in all of the time.

OP: Is your child in the advanced math class, or just in regular math? Regular math + mediocre FRI might raise concerns that your child couldn't handle the AAP math.
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2017 23:10     Subject: Re:What are our chances of getting in w/these scores?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:50/50 Consistent testing scores, excellent GBRS DRA is not really a factor.


I agree 50/50, maybe slightly better than 50/50. The high spacial may tip it in favour of a level 3 services but with the 14 GBRS it could tip it towards a level IV. The DRA won't matter because a) DRA isn't relevant; and b) even if it was relevant, a DRA of 30 is a DRA level of the very beginning of third grade...so essentially a little advanced.


Thank your teacher. Without the GBRS, the chance would be slim.


Agree- AAP is comprised of kids that really are advanced and others that got in. Those children may struggle. If my kids had not been AAP material AND did not have very high scores to back it up (and GBRS) - we would just skip this whole process. I guess consideration is that if you go to a center- in the upper ES grades they split off math to advanced+ or just advanced. That might help those at least who struggled in math since it is very fast paced.


Correction above..
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2017 23:09     Subject: Re:What are our chances of getting in w/these scores?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:50/50 Consistent testing scores, excellent GBRS DRA is not really a factor.


I agree 50/50, maybe slightly better than 50/50. The high spacial may tip it in favour of a level 3 services but with the 14 GBRS it could tip it towards a level IV. The DRA won't matter because a) DRA isn't relevant; and b) even if it was relevant, a DRA of 30 is a DRA level of the very beginning of third grade...so essentially a little advanced.


Thank your teacher. Without the GBRS, the chance would be slim.


Agree- AAP is comprised of kids that really are advanced and others that got in. Those children may struggle. If my kids had not been AAP material AND have very high scores to back it up (and GBRS) - we would just skip this whole process. I guess consideration is that if you go to a center- in the upper ES grades they split off math to advanced+ or just advanced. That might help those at least who struggled in math since it is very fast paced.
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2017 17:12     Subject: Re:What are our chances of getting in w/these scores?

I don't know. My concern would be these two scores. They like to see high fluid reasoning, verbal comprehension, and/or working memory. The visual spatial and processing don't seem to hold as much weight based on anecdotal evidence I have seen on here.

Fluid reasoning: 115
Working memory: 115

Just to be clear, my child had eh scores, not in pool and low working memory and processing. I don't recall GBRS but it was not as high as 14. She did get in. But her fluid reasoning was a 151.
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2017 14:59     Subject: Re:What are our chances of getting in w/these scores?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:50/50 Consistent testing scores, excellent GBRS DRA is not really a factor.


I agree 50/50, maybe slightly better than 50/50. The high spacial may tip it in favour of a level 3 services but with the 14 GBRS it could tip it towards a level IV. The DRA won't matter because a) DRA isn't relevant; and b) even if it was relevant, a DRA of 30 is a DRA level of the very beginning of third grade...so essentially a little advanced.


Thank your teacher. Without the GBRS, the chance would be slim.
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2017 13:38     Subject: Re:What are our chances of getting in w/these scores?

Anonymous wrote:50/50 Consistent testing scores, excellent GBRS DRA is not really a factor.


I agree 50/50, maybe slightly better than 50/50. The high spacial may tip it in favour of a level 3 services but with the 14 GBRS it could tip it towards a level IV. The DRA won't matter because a) DRA isn't relevant; and b) even if it was relevant, a DRA of 30 is a DRA level of the very beginning of third grade...so essentially a little advanced.
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2017 12:50     Subject: What are our chances of getting in w/these scores?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:borderline

Would be good to know the WISC subscores.


New poster. What WISC subscores are more "important"? Thx!


Looking for consistency or lack thereof among subscores. If a subscore is much higher than other subscores, it gives more weight than the more-averaged WISC FSIQ.

If all the subscores are consistent and the WISC is "only" a 127, then it makes the case more borderline.


OP here. Very wide range on the subscores:

Verbal comprehension: 127
Visual spatial: 144
Fluid reasoning: 115
Working memory: 115
Processing speed: 95


Based on the difference between the Visual Spatial and Processing Speed subscores (as well as the working memory), my guess is your child will be found center-eligible, especially in combination of the high GBRS.

The selection committee members are looking for ways to find the student center-eligible, and (in my opinion) the visual spatial subscore tips the balance.
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2017 11:56     Subject: What are our chances of getting in w/these scores?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:borderline

Would be good to know the WISC subscores.


New poster. What WISC subscores are more "important"? Thx!


Looking for consistency or lack thereof among subscores. If a subscore is much higher than other subscores, it gives more weight than the more-averaged WISC FSIQ.

If all the subscores are consistent and the WISC is "only" a 127, then it makes the case more borderline.


OP here. Very wide range on the subscores:

Verbal comprehension: 127
Visual spatial: 144
Fluid reasoning: 115
Working memory: 115
Processing speed: 95
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2017 10:36     Subject: What are our chances of getting in w/these scores?

In.....
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2017 10:18     Subject: What are our chances of getting in w/these scores?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:borderline

Would be good to know the WISC subscores.


New poster. What WISC subscores are more "important"? Thx!


Looking for consistency or lack thereof among subscores. If a subscore is much higher than other subscores, it gives more weight than the more-averaged WISC FSIQ.

If all the subscores are consistent and the WISC is "only" a 127, then it makes the case more borderline.
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2017 08:52     Subject: Re:What are our chances of getting in w/these scores?

50/50 Consistent testing scores, excellent GBRS DRA is not really a factor.
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2017 08:49     Subject: What are our chances of getting in w/these scores?

A 14 GBRS is high.
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2017 07:09     Subject: What are our chances of getting in w/these scores?

Anonymous wrote:borderline

Would be good to know the WISC subscores.


New poster. What WISC subscores are more "important"? Thx!
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2017 07:05     Subject: What are our chances of getting in w/these scores?

borderline

Would be good to know the WISC subscores.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2017 18:05     Subject: What are our chances of getting in w/these scores?

NNAT: 125
CogAT: 121
WISC: 127
DRA: 30
GBRS: 14