Anonymous
03/17/2017 17:11
Subject: Book from birth numbers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECE and PK isn't a right in DC except for children with special needs.
Not really much of a program if only a select few get in. Wait until siblings start getting left out in mass and then it will be a different story.
How will it be a different story? There were 5800 seats for 5100 applicants in PK3 last year citywide. Just because you will only send Larla to Mundo Verde doesn't mean there is a dearth of seats. Until every school with white kids starts putting PK classrooms on the roof and in trailers (and even then), there will be applicants left out.
You are not taking geography into account. The locations of available seats do not correspond well to the epicenters of this population growth.
So you might have to travel a little bit for your free, public pre-K. It is not compulsory school, and is not a right. To demand that a school build out a classroom for PK in upper Northwest when they see so much attrition before 5th grade is crazy.
I'm not demanding anything. Rather, I am pointing out that what is currently a relatively minor problem (not enough seats in the places with the kids) is about to be a much bigger problem in a few years' time.
I can name other things that are real "problems", not having free ECE within proximity is certainly not a problem.
Anonymous
03/17/2017 16:40
Subject: Book from birth numbers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECE and PK isn't a right in DC except for children with special needs.
Not really much of a program if only a select few get in. Wait until siblings start getting left out in mass and then it will be a different story.
How will it be a different story? There were 5800 seats for 5100 applicants in PK3 last year citywide. Just because you will only send Larla to Mundo Verde doesn't mean there is a dearth of seats. Until every school with white kids starts putting PK classrooms on the roof and in trailers (and even then), there will be applicants left out.
You are not taking geography into account. The locations of available seats do not correspond well to the epicenters of this population growth.
So you might have to travel a little bit for your free, public pre-K. It is not compulsory school, and is not a right. To demand that a school build out a classroom for PK in upper Northwest when they see so much attrition before 5th grade is crazy.
I'm not demanding anything. Rather, I am pointing out that what is currently a relatively minor problem (not enough seats in the places with the kids) is about to be a much bigger problem in a few years' time.
Anonymous
03/17/2017 16:10
Subject: Book from birth numbers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECE and PK isn't a right in DC except for children with special needs.
Not really much of a program if only a select few get in. Wait until siblings start getting left out in mass and then it will be a different story.
How will it be a different story? There were 5800 seats for 5100 applicants in PK3 last year citywide. Just because you will only send Larla to Mundo Verde doesn't mean there is a dearth of seats. Until every school with white kids starts putting PK classrooms on the roof and in trailers (and even then), there will be applicants left out.
You are not taking geography into account. The locations of available seats do not correspond well to the epicenters of this population growth.
So you might have to travel a little bit for your free, public pre-K. It is not compulsory school, and is not a right. To demand that a school build out a classroom for PK in upper Northwest when they see so much attrition before 5th grade is crazy.
I've never understood line of reasoning. Clearly different parts of the city have different needs. If DCPS wants to attract as many students as possible, they should think more strategically. I understand there is no way that everyone will get in. But in many cases, there are way to get more students into the program.
Anonymous
03/17/2017 15:42
Subject: Book from birth numbers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECE and PK isn't a right in DC except for children with special needs.
Not really much of a program if only a select few get in. Wait until siblings start getting left out in mass and then it will be a different story.
How will it be a different story? There were 5800 seats for 5100 applicants in PK3 last year citywide. Just because you will only send Larla to Mundo Verde doesn't mean there is a dearth of seats. Until every school with white kids starts putting PK classrooms on the roof and in trailers (and even then), there will be applicants left out.
You are not taking geography into account. The locations of available seats do not correspond well to the epicenters of this population growth.
So you might have to travel a little bit for your free, public pre-K. It is not compulsory school, and is not a right. To demand that a school build out a classroom for PK in upper Northwest when they see so much attrition before 5th grade is crazy.
Anonymous
03/17/2017 14:45
Subject: Book from birth numbers
I don't think any day care centers have gone through the process to become ECE charters at this point. If they wanted to participate in the MSDC lottery and get charter funding, they'd have to do that through the DCPCSB process. It could be a good idea for those of them that are willing to go through the paperwork process.
Anonymous
03/17/2017 12:56
Subject: Book from birth numbers
Anonymous wrote:Rather than scrapping ECE, I think it's more likely that we see current day cares licensing themselves as charters and providing some of the PK services. That's how NYC does it. The real need seems to be in Petworth/Crestwood/Brightwood. DCPS would have done well to partition Roosevelt and make part of it an ECE campus. There's enough room for both, and while some parents are scared to put their 3yos anywhere a teenager might tread, it would allow for some extra space for the little ones, CDA training classes for older students, and care for the children of Roosevelt teachers and students. One thing DCPS should consider is phasing out Height (which was a takeover of a charter, and doesn't have a boundary) and using it as an ECE campus.
I toured two daycares in Petworth that are already doing this. FWIW, they didn't compare to my older kid's ECE class at a Petworth Charter, imo.
Anonymous
03/17/2017 12:52
Subject: Book from birth numbers
Rather than scrapping ECE, I think it's more likely that we see current day cares licensing themselves as charters and providing some of the PK services. That's how NYC does it. The real need seems to be in Petworth/Crestwood/Brightwood. DCPS would have done well to partition Roosevelt and make part of it an ECE campus. There's enough room for both, and while some parents are scared to put their 3yos anywhere a teenager might tread, it would allow for some extra space for the little ones, CDA training classes for older students, and care for the children of Roosevelt teachers and students. One thing DCPS should consider is phasing out Height (which was a takeover of a charter, and doesn't have a boundary) and using it as an ECE campus.
Anonymous
03/17/2017 12:52
Subject: Book from birth numbers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECE and PK isn't a right in DC except for children with special needs.
Not really much of a program if only a select few get in. Wait until siblings start getting left out in mass and then it will be a different story.
How will it be a different story? There were 5800 seats for 5100 applicants in PK3 last year citywide. Just because you will only send Larla to Mundo Verde doesn't mean there is a dearth of seats. Until every school with white kids starts putting PK classrooms on the roof and in trailers (and even then), there will be applicants left out.
You are not taking geography into account. The locations of available seats do not correspond well to the epicenters of this population growth.
Anonymous
03/17/2017 12:35
Subject: Book from birth numbers
Office of Planning is calling for tens of thousands of new students by 2020!
http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/2014%20Population%20Projections%20and%20Growth%20%28between%202014%20to%202020%29.pdf
(DCUM doesn't like links with parentheses. To find this, go to dme.dc.gov and search for "2014 2020 population projections" it's the first hit).
http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/2014%20Population%20Projections%20and%20Growth%20%28between%202014%20to%202020%29.pdf
(DCUM doesn't like links with parentheses. To find this, go to dme.dc.gov and search for "2014 2020 population projections" it's the first hit).
Anonymous
03/17/2017 12:08
Subject: Re:Book from birth numbers
I'm with OP on this one. The District as a whole, and in particular DCPS, is ignoring the massive increase in the under 5 population and is not planning accordingly. Within the next 5-10 years, if this growth continues and schools are not expanded, I predict ECE getting scrapped in certain places.
Anonymous
03/17/2017 10:18
Subject: Book from birth numbers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECE and PK isn't a right in DC except for children with special needs.
Not really much of a program if only a select few get in. Wait until siblings start getting left out in mass and then it will be a different story.
How will it be a different story? There were 5800 seats for 5100 applicants in PK3 last year citywide. Just because you will only send Larla to Mundo Verde doesn't mean there is a dearth of seats. Until every school with white kids starts putting PK classrooms on the roof and in trailers (and even then), there will be applicants left out.
+1. There are plenty of PK seats in this city. That they are not in exactly the area that the PP wants them to be in doesn't mean that anyone is getting left out en masse. They could go enroll in schools with space right now if they wanted to. They just don't want to.
Anonymous
03/17/2017 10:03
Subject: Book from birth numbers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECE and PK isn't a right in DC except for children with special needs.
Not really much of a program if only a select few get in. Wait until siblings start getting left out in mass and then it will be a different story.
How will it be a different story? There were 5800 seats for 5100 applicants in PK3 last year citywide. Just because you will only send Larla to Mundo Verde doesn't mean there is a dearth of seats. Until every school with white kids starts putting PK classrooms on the roof and in trailers (and even then), there will be applicants left out.
Anonymous
03/17/2017 09:52
Subject: Book from birth numbers
Anonymous wrote:ECE and PK isn't a right in DC except for children with special needs.
Not really much of a program if only a select few get in. Wait until siblings start getting left out in mass and then it will be a different story.
Anonymous
03/17/2017 09:45
Subject: Book from birth numbers
ECE and PK isn't a right in DC except for children with special needs.
Anonymous
03/17/2017 09:44
Subject: Book from birth numbers
I know we have to take these numbers with a grain of salt, but it looks like DC better find some more ECE classes soon.
https://districtmeasured.com/2017/03/16/dc-books-from-birth/
https://districtmeasured.com/2017/03/16/dc-books-from-birth/