Anonymous
Post 01/08/2017 11:22     Subject: Where to go if ED doesn't work?
Agree with the previous posters -- St. John's is likely the best choice for the direction you seek. But if you do not feel comfortable there (?), pick the school you feel is the best mesh.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2017 11:14     Subject: Where to go if ED doesn't work?
Anonymous wrote:Don't you have parents? Family? Friends? Do you really need to continually crowd source your future from an anonymous Internet board?


Why are you being nasty to a 17-year-old kid? That question could be asked of any of us who post here, or anywhere online. If you don't want to participate, no one is forcing you.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2017 00:34     Subject: Where to go if ED doesn't work?
Congrats dude. Let us know if you get your top choice.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2017 23:54     Subject: Where to go if ED doesn't work?
Don't you have parents? Family? Friends? Do you really need to continually crowd source your future from an anonymous Internet board?
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2017 23:46     Subject: Where to go if ED doesn't work?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of the three, excellence at St. Johns is probably the most respected of the three for your particular goal.

Why do you think you are going to do that much better in college than you did in high school?

Do you speak any foreign languages? Obviously for classics you need to speak at least one classic tongue, but to go further than a BA, you also probably need fluency in at least one traditional modern tongue so that you can read the secondary literature. For European History, you have to be able to read primary source material, let alone secondary source material. You won't make it as a scholar in either of those areas without this ability. (And yes, I did investigate this question when I was finishing my undergrad and deciding NOT to become an historian.)

My colleague has s PhD in history and while he's very sharp, well read and well spoken, he does not speak or read another language. His BA is from Brown and his PhD from Michigan.


What kind of history, and is he a historian today?

I asked, and I looked around me. Foreign language knowledge is important so that you are not closed off from what other scholars have said.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2017 23:39     Subject: Where to go if ED doesn't work?
Given the academic goals you cite, St. John's is definitely the best choice. The Great Books curriculum provides an excellent grounding in classics and history as well as critical thinking skills. It also has - by far - the best name recognition and academic reputation.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2017 23:35     Subject: Where to go if ED doesn't work?
Anonymous wrote:Of the three, excellence at St. Johns is probably the most respected of the three for your particular goal.

Why do you think you are going to do that much better in college than you did in high school?

Do you speak any foreign languages? Obviously for classics you need to speak at least one classic tongue, but to go further than a BA, you also probably need fluency in at least one traditional modern tongue so that you can read the secondary literature. For European History, you have to be able to read primary source material, let alone secondary source material. You won't make it as a scholar in either of those areas without this ability. (And yes, I did investigate this question when I was finishing my undergrad and deciding NOT to become an historian.)

My colleague has s PhD in history and while he's very sharp, well read and well spoken, he does not speak or read another language. His BA is from Brown and his PhD from Michigan.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2017 23:30     Subject: Where to go if ED doesn't work?
PaleoConPrep wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
PaleoConPrep wrote:As I've said previously, I'm applying to Sewanee ED. If that doesn't work out, I've got 3 schools to choose from: St. John's(Annapolis), Hampden-Sydney, and Grove City. I'm not sure which to pick. Each has something that I really want. St. John's has an excellent classical curriculum and a great reputation, Grove City has a conservative Christian culture/environment, and Hampden-Sydney has a very preppy vibe. None of them have everything I want. St. Johns clearly has the best academic reputation. Which one should I go to if my ultimate goal is to get into a top PhD program( UChicago, UVA, Hopkins) in Classics or European History?


Have you gotten into the other three

I've gotten into St. John's and HSC. I'm almost certainly getting into Grove City.


Congratulations! You've got 2 great choices already.

I think I'd choose St. John's. Especially if classics is an area of interest to you.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2017 23:28     Subject: Where to go if ED doesn't work?
Of the three, excellence at St. Johns is probably the most respected of the three for your particular goal.

Why do you think you are going to do that much better in college than you did in high school?

Do you speak any foreign languages? Obviously for classics you need to speak at least one classic tongue, but to go further than a BA, you also probably need fluency in at least one traditional modern tongue so that you can read the secondary literature. For European History, you have to be able to read primary source material, let alone secondary source material. You won't make it as a scholar in either of those areas without this ability. (And yes, I did investigate this question when I was finishing my undergrad and deciding NOT to become an historian.)
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2017 23:22     Subject: Where to go if ED doesn't work?
Go to the one where you feel most comfortable and at home. All things considered, St. John will likely provide the better academic experience.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2017 22:22     Subject: Where to go if ED doesn't work?
Have you considered Regent?
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2017 22:17     Subject: Where to go if ED doesn't work?
Did you apply to Liberty U?
PaleoConPrep
Post 01/07/2017 22:14     Subject: Where to go if ED doesn't work?
Anonymous wrote:
PaleoConPrep wrote:As I've said previously, I'm applying to Sewanee ED. If that doesn't work out, I've got 3 schools to choose from: St. John's(Annapolis), Hampden-Sydney, and Grove City. I'm not sure which to pick. Each has something that I really want. St. John's has an excellent classical curriculum and a great reputation, Grove City has a conservative Christian culture/environment, and Hampden-Sydney has a very preppy vibe. None of them have everything I want. St. Johns clearly has the best academic reputation. Which one should I go to if my ultimate goal is to get into a top PhD program( UChicago, UVA, Hopkins) in Classics or European History?


Have you gotten into the other three

I've gotten into St. John's and HSC. I'm almost certainly getting into Grove City.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2017 22:07     Subject: Where to go if ED doesn't work?
PaleoConPrep wrote:As I've said previously, I'm applying to Sewanee ED. If that doesn't work out, I've got 3 schools to choose from: St. John's(Annapolis), Hampden-Sydney, and Grove City. I'm not sure which to pick. Each has something that I really want. St. John's has an excellent classical curriculum and a great reputation, Grove City has a conservative Christian culture/environment, and Hampden-Sydney has a very preppy vibe. None of them have everything I want. St. Johns clearly has the best academic reputation. Which one should I go to if my ultimate goal is to get into a top PhD program( UChicago, UVA, Hopkins) in Classics or European History?


Have you gotten into the other three
PaleoConPrep
Post 01/07/2017 22:05     Subject: Where to go if ED doesn't work?
As I've said previously, I'm applying to Sewanee ED. If that doesn't work out, I've got 3 schools to choose from: St. John's(Annapolis), Hampden-Sydney, and Grove City. I'm not sure which to pick. Each has something that I really want. St. John's has an excellent classical curriculum and a great reputation, Grove City has a conservative Christian culture/environment, and Hampden-Sydney has a very preppy vibe. None of them have everything I want. St. Johns clearly has the best academic reputation. Which one should I go to if my ultimate goal is to get into a top PhD program( UChicago, UVA, Hopkins) in Classics or European History?