Anonymous
12/27/2016 00:54
Subject: My husband's gazillionaire financier friend told our kids to study engineering
Anonymous wrote:^ I hate the stereotype that engineers are beta nerds and business kids are alpha charismatic salesman. Reminds me of my dumb fraternity brothers who'd rationalize their worthless major and low GPA with the fact they (thought they) had awesome personalities that all these Fortune 500 companies would kill for. Most of them became cold calling schmucks after college. It's 2017, talented kids are ALL OF THE ABOVE.
Sounds like you have self esteem issues regarding your social skills. That's on you dude. What hypothetically MIGHT happen to future engineers has NOTHING to do with what people think of you and your lack of social reputation
Anonymous
12/27/2016 00:42
Subject: My husband's gazillionaire financier friend told our kids to study engineering
Anonymous wrote:^ I hate the stereotype that engineers are beta nerds and business kids are alpha charismatic salesman. Reminds me of my dumb fraternity brothers who'd rationalize their worthless major and low GPA with the fact they (thought they) had awesome personalities that all these Fortune 500 companies would kill for. Most of them became cold calling schmucks after college. It's 2017, talented kids are ALL OF THE ABOVE.
PP here. No one said that engineers were nerds and business kids were charismatic salesmen or that talented kids couldn't be all of the above -- although I think it's very rare that talented kids are all of the above. I'm personally not a fan of business majors because I believe with the exception of a technical area like accounting, you can learn business on the job. But there's a reason why Wall Street investment banks hire liberal arts majors who are neither engineers or business majors ...
My point is there isn't a formula that is going to guarantee a successful life or career no matter who O.P.'s gazillion-dollar friend likes to hire.
Anonymous
12/26/2016 23:06
Subject: Re:My husband's gazillionaire financier friend told our kids to study engineering
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Interesting for kids who have the interest in and aptitude for engineering. But there are plenty of brilliant kids who don't. I don't know what business your friend has, but seems like you'd get a lot of certain kinds of thinkers with his strategy. Great if you're building or designing, not always so wonderful if you want kids who can sell, communicate and/or write.
Picking a major because it's the in thing or a trend, may nab you a first job, but not necessarily a career you love and will thrive in. I say this as a business major and CPA, who was trying to be similarly practical back in the day. Freshman year at a top college, I had five friends start out as engineers, none of them graduated in that major.
Which "top college" has a business major?
Wharton
Had to look one up, huh? Wharton gives Econ degrees for undergrad. Try again.
Anonymous
12/26/2016 22:14
Subject: My husband's gazillionaire financier friend told our kids to study engineering
Does "business" include economics is the question?
Anonymous
12/26/2016 22:13
Subject: My husband's gazillionaire financier friend told our kids to study engineering
That's not news, OP. People with mathematical and scientific backgrounds can't be too stupid to get through all these exercises in logic and critical reasoning, so it would make sense that they are able to lateralize/transfer their skills and learn on the job pretty quickly.
Anonymous
12/26/2016 22:11
Subject: My husband's gazillionaire financier friend told our kids to study engineering
And Peter Thiel pays talented kids $100,000 NOT to go to college.
What's your point?
What's your point?
Anonymous
12/26/2016 22:10
Subject: Re:My husband's gazillionaire financier friend told our kids to study engineering
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Interesting for kids who have the interest in and aptitude for engineering. But there are plenty of brilliant kids who don't. I don't know what business your friend has, but seems like you'd get a lot of certain kinds of thinkers with his strategy. Great if you're building or designing, not always so wonderful if you want kids who can sell, communicate and/or write.
Picking a major because it's the in thing or a trend, may nab you a first job, but not necessarily a career you love and will thrive in. I say this as a business major and CPA, who was trying to be similarly practical back in the day. Freshman year at a top college, I had five friends start out as engineers, none of them graduated in that major.
Which "top college" has a business major?
Wharton
Anonymous
12/26/2016 21:38
Subject: Re:My husband's gazillionaire financier friend told our kids to study engineering
Anonymous wrote:Interesting for kids who have the interest in and aptitude for engineering. But there are plenty of brilliant kids who don't. I don't know what business your friend has, but seems like you'd get a lot of certain kinds of thinkers with his strategy. Great if you're building or designing, not always so wonderful if you want kids who can sell, communicate and/or write.
Picking a major because it's the in thing or a trend, may nab you a first job, but not necessarily a career you love and will thrive in. I say this as a business major and CPA, who was trying to be similarly practical back in the day. Freshman year at a top college, I had five friends start out as engineers, none of them graduated in that major.
Which "top college" has a business major?
Anonymous
12/26/2016 20:58
Subject: My husband's gazillionaire financier friend told our kids to study engineering
^ I hate the stereotype that engineers are beta nerds and business kids are alpha charismatic salesman. Reminds me of my dumb fraternity brothers who'd rationalize their worthless major and low GPA with the fact they (thought they) had awesome personalities that all these Fortune 500 companies would kill for. Most of them became cold calling schmucks after college. It's 2017, talented kids are ALL OF THE ABOVE.
Anonymous
12/26/2016 20:46
Subject: Re:My husband's gazillionaire financier friend told our kids to study engineering
Interesting for kids who have the interest in and aptitude for engineering. But there are plenty of brilliant kids who don't. I don't know what business your friend has, but seems like you'd get a lot of certain kinds of thinkers with his strategy. Great if you're building or designing, not always so wonderful if you want kids who can sell, communicate and/or write.
Picking a major because it's the in thing or a trend, may nab you a first job, but not necessarily a career you love and will thrive in. I say this as a business major and CPA, who was trying to be similarly practical back in the day. Freshman year at a top college, I had five friends start out as engineers, none of them graduated in that major.
Picking a major because it's the in thing or a trend, may nab you a first job, but not necessarily a career you love and will thrive in. I say this as a business major and CPA, who was trying to be similarly practical back in the day. Freshman year at a top college, I had five friends start out as engineers, none of them graduated in that major.
Anonymous
12/26/2016 20:41
Subject: Re:My husband's gazillionaire financier friend told our kids to study engineering
About half my MBA class was people who did engineering or some other tech/science field as their undergrad. It's a good mix career-wise.
Anonymous
12/26/2016 20:29
Subject: My husband's gazillionaire financier friend told our kids to study engineering
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Claims he hires people in spite of business degrees, doesn't target them. Engineers learn real skills and content, business is learned by doing it.
Just thought I'd share for those weighing college plans.
The problem is, the majority of kids who could hack a business degree couldn't hack an engineering degree. He's hiring much smarter kids by targeting engineering grads.
+1000
He's looking in a high IQ pool. It doesn't mean that all engineers are cut out for business but the ones that are are pretty dang smart.
Totally agree with all of the above.
Anonymous
12/26/2016 20:06
Subject: My husband's gazillionaire financier friend told our kids to study engineering
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Claims he hires people in spite of business degrees, doesn't target them. Engineers learn real skills and content, business is learned by doing it.
Just thought I'd share for those weighing college plans.
The problem is, the majority of kids who could hack a business degree couldn't hack an engineering degree. He's hiring much smarter kids by targeting engineering grads.
+1000
He's looking in a high IQ pool. It doesn't mean that all engineers are cut out for business but the ones that are are pretty dang smart.
Anonymous
12/26/2016 19:38
Subject: My husband's gazillionaire financier friend told our kids to study engineering
Anonymous wrote:Claims he hires people in spite of business degrees, doesn't target them. Engineers learn real skills and content, business is learned by doing it.
Just thought I'd share for those weighing college plans.
The problem is, the majority of kids who could hack a business degree couldn't hack an engineering degree. He's hiring much smarter kids by targeting engineering grads.
Anonymous
12/26/2016 19:26
Subject: My husband's gazillionaire financier friend told our kids to study engineering
Claims he hires people in spite of business degrees, doesn't target them. Engineers learn real skills and content, business is learned by doing it.
Just thought I'd share for those weighing college plans.
Just thought I'd share for those weighing college plans.