Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Which one of those resolutions do you find offensive? They sound like common sense to me.

The premise itself is offensive and hypocritical. The underlying assumption here that it's accurate and acceptable to attribute behavior/ideology to a group based on race/gender.

It seems to me that you either (a) believe in judging people as individuals, based on their words/actions, or (b) you believe in judging people based on their group "identity".

As a matter of principle, most don't tolerate judging people based on identity--it's anathema to our ideals.

So why then is it acceptable when it comes to white men?

Sincere question--I've never understood how people could justify this apparent inconsistency as a matter of principle.

First, the video is not a serious political tract but is light-hearted and humorous. It is really aimed at our dominant culture, but identifies white men because of the inordinate role they play in that culture. The video acknowledges that many white men already follow the proposed resolutions. That reflects the understanding that people are individuals, not groups.

Seriously, all of you are going to have heart attacks if you let things like this bother you. You would be much better off, regardless of your race or gender, by giving consideration to the message of the video rather than doing your best to be offended by it.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Which one of those resolutions do you find offensive? They sound like common sense to me.

The general notion that "white men" are responsive for all of the country's problems is obnoxious. That is the group that built this country, for the most part. It's just such a whiny cry-baby attitude. I don't think these people realize that most of the country doesn't take them seriously.

Slaves physically built this country.

jsteele wrote:Which one of those resolutions do you find offensive? They sound like common sense to me.

The premise itself is offensive and hypocritical. The underlying assumption here that it's accurate and acceptable to attribute behavior/ideology to a group based on race/gender.

It seems to me that you either (a) believe in judging people as individuals, based on their words/actions, or (b) you believe in judging people based on their group "identity".

As a matter of principle, most don't tolerate judging people based on identity--it's anathema to our ideals.

So why then is it acceptable when it comes to white men?

Sincere question--I've never understood how people could justify this apparent inconsistency as a matter of principle.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how people would feel if MTV provided New Years resolutions for black people? or Hispanic people? or Jewish people? or Muslim people?

If that happened you'd have protestors in the streets demanding that everyone involved with the video be fired. It's a total racist double standard. The people that made the MTV video are racists, pure and simple. But white folks don't get worked up about this kind of thing.

Because white folks are in charge. The majority of politicians are white men, the majority of CEOs in this country are white men. It's not even close. Nobody is interested in your bullshit crocodile tears. White men are not the marginalized race/gender. You are fooling yourself if you think Trump's presidency is going to turn the tide. You cannot get rid of the people of color who are being born in this country every day. You cannot fight the inevitable no matter how hard you try. Equality, true equality is a wave you can't fight.

And when you're used to privilege equality feels like oppression.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how people would feel if MTV provided New Years resolutions for black people? or Hispanic people? or Jewish people? or Muslim people?

If that happened you'd have protestors in the streets demanding that everyone involved with the video be fired. It's a total racist double standard. The people that made the MTV video are racists, pure and simple. But white folks don't get worked up about this kind of thing.

Because white folks are in charge. The majority of politicians are white men, the majority of CEOs in this country are white men. It's not even close. Nobody is interested in your bullshit crocodile tears. White men are not the marginalized race/gender. You are fooling yourself if you think Trump's presidency is going to turn the tide. You cannot get rid of the people of color who are being born in this country every day. You cannot fight the inevitable no matter how hard you try. Equality, true equality is a wave you can't fight.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Which one of those resolutions do you find offensive? They sound like common sense to me.

Race baiting is offensive regardless of who is being targeted. Or is race baiting just common sense now?

Did you listen to the resolutions? There is really nothing offensive. I guess your only quibble is that they are aimed at "white men", but really they are useful ideas for anyone.

During the years that I have moderated DCUM, I have read countless posts telling black people to "get over it" or to stop having chips on their shoulder and to lighten up. For the past several months, the most resentful people on DCUM have been white people. I have never encountered such a sensitive group. Every single little slight no manner how innocuous is a "reason that Trump won". Okay, Trump won because white people have hurt feelings (oops, that comment is another reason Trump won). I get it. That doesn't mean nobody can ever say the word "white" again.

jsteele wrote:Which one of those resolutions do you find offensive? They sound like common sense to me.

Race baiting is offensive regardless of who is being targeted. Or is race baiting just common sense now?

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how people would feel if MTV provided New Years resolutions for black people? or Hispanic people? or Jewish people? or Muslim people?

If that happened you'd have protestors in the streets demanding that everyone involved with the video be fired. It's a total racist double standard. The people that made the MTV video are racists, pure and simple. But white folks don't get worked up about this kind of thing.

I wonder how people would feel if MTV provided New Years resolutions for black people? or Hispanic people? or Jewish people? or Muslim people?

LOL. "But as Reason columnist Andrea O'Sullivan (nee Castillo) put it, "Are the Trump people behind this?" The MTV video bespeaks a mind-set that is less interested in real change than it is in distancing itself from any sort of critical examination of why progressive ideas are so incredibly unpopular."

http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/20/mtvs-white-guy-resolution-2017-might-jus

The comments below the video are uniformly negative. People are declaring that this kind of stuff will GUARANTEE trump a second term. http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/12/21/mtvs-white-guy-resolutions-2017-might-just-earn-trump-second-term

Why do they not include white woman? Oh that's right...

jsteele wrote:Which one of those resolutions do you find offensive? They sound like common sense to me.

The general notion that "white men" are responsive for all of the country's problems is obnoxious. That is the group that built this country, for the most part. It's just such a whiny cry-baby attitude. I don't think these people realize that most of the country doesn't take them seriously.

Which one of those resolutions do you find offensive? They sound like common sense to me.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MTVNews/status/810960588973035520/video/1

This shows that they haven't learned anything from the election. Not sure when they will be a bit introspective.