Anonymous
Post 12/21/2016 12:59     Subject: Some Charter Myth Busting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What happens to a neighborhood school that has nore mid-year entries than was in their funding forecast?


They make it work.

These are inherent differences, baked into the law. There are also more options within all of DCPS -- alternative schools and the like -- for the truly hard, behavioral cases. The Ward 7 and 8 schools, both charter and DCPS, overall have the most movement.

Students with learning disabilities and economically disadvantaged students move the most. Much more data is here http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/OSSE%20Mobility%20Report%20July%202015.pdf


So make the charters "make it work".
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2016 12:54     Subject: Some Charter Myth Busting
Anonymous wrote:What happens to a neighborhood school that has nore mid-year entries than was in their funding forecast?


They make it work.

These are inherent differences, baked into the law. There are also more options within all of DCPS -- alternative schools and the like -- for the truly hard, behavioral cases. The Ward 7 and 8 schools, both charter and DCPS, overall have the most movement.

Students with learning disabilities and economically disadvantaged students move the most. Much more data is here http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/OSSE%20Mobility%20Report%20July%202015.pdf
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2016 12:37     Subject: Some Charter Myth Busting
What happens to a neighborhood school that has nore mid-year entries than was in their funding forecast?
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2016 12:34     Subject: Some Charter Myth Busting
So why do some charters backfill and others do nt?
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2016 12:33     Subject: Some Charter Myth Busting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They could require charters to backfill empty spots with kids new to DC or expelled from other schools. But no, because their precious, precious culture demands that neighborhood schools deal with those groups instead.


The cross sector task force is working on this issue. But they, like DCPS and OOB, have to follow the wait lists they have.


No, some charters don't backfill at all.


Right. But they are trying to figure out a way to make it happen. Part of the challenge is how the money is distributed. If that can be solved then they can force schools to do it.


They are forcing neighborhood schools right now. So why can't they force charters?


Because DCPS is funded differently. For 2016-17 a DCPS school budget is created / funded based on its 2015-16's enrollment. Charters are funded on the number of students that are in a school in October 2016. This creates issues for schools in both sectors.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2016 12:27     Subject: Some Charter Myth Busting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They could require charters to backfill empty spots with kids new to DC or expelled from other schools. But no, because their precious, precious culture demands that neighborhood schools deal with those groups instead.


The cross sector task force is working on this issue. But they, like DCPS and OOB, have to follow the wait lists they have.


No, some charters don't backfill at all.


Right. But they are trying to figure out a way to make it happen. Part of the challenge is how the money is distributed. If that can be solved then they can force schools to do it.


They are forcing neighborhood schools right now. So why can't they force charters?
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2016 12:26     Subject: Some Charter Myth Busting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They could require charters to backfill empty spots with kids new to DC or expelled from other schools. But no, because their precious, precious culture demands that neighborhood schools deal with those groups instead.


The cross sector task force is working on this issue. But they, like DCPS and OOB, have to follow the wait lists they have.


No, some charters don't backfill at all.


Right. But they are trying to figure out a way to make it happen. Part of the challenge is how the money is distributed. If that can be solved then they can force schools to do it.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2016 12:21     Subject: Some Charter Myth Busting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They could require charters to backfill empty spots with kids new to DC or expelled from other schools. But no, because their precious, precious culture demands that neighborhood schools deal with those groups instead.


The cross sector task force is working on this issue. But they, like DCPS and OOB, have to follow the wait lists they have.


No, some charters don't backfill at all.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2016 12:13     Subject: Some Charter Myth Busting
Anonymous wrote:They could require charters to backfill empty spots with kids new to DC or expelled from other schools. But no, because their precious, precious culture demands that neighborhood schools deal with those groups instead.


The cross sector task force is working on this issue. But they, like DCPS and OOB, have to follow the wait lists they have.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2016 12:03     Subject: Some Charter Myth Busting
They could require charters to backfill empty spots with kids new to DC or expelled from other schools. But no, because their precious, precious culture demands that neighborhood schools deal with those groups instead.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2016 11:47     Subject: Some Charter Myth Busting
Anonymous wrote:I want a list of high school and middle school arrests assigned to schools. When those are equalized across the system I'll start to believe some of the other stats. I still feel pretty confident the most disruptive, problematic students happen to exit PCS for DCPS and not the other way around.


As it should be. DCPS is the by right option. Yes, money should follow but it has to happen that way.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2016 11:15     Subject: Some Charter Myth Busting
Anonymous wrote:I want a list of high school and middle school arrests assigned to schools. When those are equalized across the system I'll start to believe some of the other stats. I still feel pretty confident the most disruptive, problematic students happen to exit PCS for DCPS and not the other way around.


OP presented facts. You presented nothing but speculation. I'll dwell in the land of facts until you have something more substantive.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2016 10:41     Subject: Some Charter Myth Busting
I want a list of high school and middle school arrests assigned to schools. When those are equalized across the system I'll start to believe some of the other stats. I still feel pretty confident the most disruptive, problematic students happen to exit PCS for DCPS and not the other way around.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2016 22:49     Subject: Some Charter Myth Busting
It's nice that mid-year withdrawals are down, but there will always be a difference between schools that have to accept new kids mid-year (DCPS) vs. those that don't (charters).
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2016 12:13     Subject: Some Charter Myth Busting
As of 2015-16 charters now have the same percentage of students with special needs as DCPS (15.4% vs. 15.2%), mid-year withdrawals are down for third year in a row (now 4.9%). Suspension and expulsion rates are down too but still higher than DCPS.

Overall sector data http://www.dcpcsb.org/sites/default/files/report/2016%20Equity%20Reports%20Trends%20DRAFT%2012-9-16%20tb%20RY.pdf?utm_source=Test+List_Tomeika&utm_campaign=2bfff07d51-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2016_12_12&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_69fce04733-2bfff07d51-180601985

School by school data http://www.dcpcsb.org/report/school-equity-reports-0?utm_source=Test+List_Tomeika&utm_campaign=2bfff07d51-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2016_12_12&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_69fce04733-2bfff07d51-180601985