forgot to add - once they start consistently breeding doodles with doodles - then we can talk about doodles becoming a breed

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Anonymous wrote:Don't get a doodle dog. Get a golden, lab, or poodle.

Why?

they are mutts, not a real breed. yet.

What difference does it make if they aren't a "Real Breed?" You can't show them??

I think mutts are far superior to purebred dogs. But isn't the point of buying a breed of dog to control the temperament and hair type of the dog you get? Or I guess hunting or herding if you are into that sort of thing?

Buying a Doodle makes about as much sense to me as buying any dog.

Real breeds is formed for years, have standards - in looks, temperament, behavior. responsible breeders work on improving (or not - some breeds got worse in US, and people are looking for EU breeders/dogs with Euro blood lines, but whatever) breed characteristics etc. So, by getting puppy from responsible breeder you know exactly what you'll get.

Mutts are dark horses. You never now what traits of what breed you'll receive. It doesn't make them worse, its just what it is.

My point is that if you want a mutt - you go to shelter. You want a pure breed - responsible breeders are for you.
Paying thousands for a mutt with unpredictable traits? Thanks, but no thanks. I'd rather adopt from a pond.

I see why you're thinking this, but it's actually wrong. You're confusing the guarantee of a certain standard, with the much more malleable temperament of a dog.

Getting a cross-breed from a responsible breeder is not so much a coin-toss as you imagine it to be. Behavior is inheritable parent to puppy, so even if you have only 3 or 4 generations behind you, you can absolutely make a prediction as to the temperament of the puppy. The "look", for conformation, not so much, but to most puppy owners that is not a problem if they receive a curlier Doodle than the other clients for the same litter. Also, they will be guaranteed to have a psychologically and physically healthy beginning, one that ensures they are kept with their mother for at least 6 weeks, and learn bite inhibition by playing with their littermates. All this early nurturing is CRITICAL in getting a behaviorally healthy dog. Shelter dogs often come from puppy mills where the dogs are forced to live in their own feces and have no socialization whatsoever, leading to sometimes irreversible cases of anxiety, aggression, and inability to housebreak.

It is likely that in a few decades, the Goldendoodle will be come a breed, thanks to the work of dedicated breeders.

How? Breeder in OP is selling first generation F1s

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Anonymous wrote:Don't get a doodle dog. Get a golden, lab, or poodle.

Why?

they are mutts, not a real breed. yet.

What difference does it make if they aren't a "Real Breed?" You can't show them??

I think mutts are far superior to purebred dogs. But isn't the point of buying a breed of dog to control the temperament and hair type of the dog you get? Or I guess hunting or herding if you are into that sort of thing?

Buying a Doodle makes about as much sense to me as buying any dog.

Real breeds is formed for years, have standards - in looks, temperament, behavior. responsible breeders work on improving (or not - some breeds got worse in US, and people are looking for EU breeders/dogs with Euro blood lines, but whatever) breed characteristics etc. So, by getting puppy from responsible breeder you know exactly what you'll get.

Mutts are dark horses. You never now what traits of what breed you'll receive. It doesn't make them worse, its just what it is.

My point is that if you want a mutt - you go to shelter. You want a pure breed - responsible breeders are for you.
Paying thousands for a mutt with unpredictable traits? Thanks, but no thanks. I'd rather adopt from a pond.

I see why you're thinking this, but it's actually wrong. You're confusing the guarantee of a certain standard, with the much more malleable temperament of a dog.

Getting a cross-breed from a responsible breeder is not so much a coin-toss as you imagine it to be. Behavior is inheritable parent to puppy, so even if you have only 3 or 4 generations behind you, you can absolutely make a prediction as to the temperament of the puppy. The "look", for conformation, not so much, but to most puppy owners that is not a problem if they receive a curlier Doodle than the other clients for the same litter. Also, they will be guaranteed to have a psychologically and physically healthy beginning, one that ensures they are kept with their mother for at least 6 weeks, and learn bite inhibition by playing with their littermates. All this early nurturing is CRITICAL in getting a behaviorally healthy dog. Shelter dogs often come from puppy mills where the dogs are forced to live in their own feces and have no socialization whatsoever, leading to sometimes irreversible cases of anxiety, aggression, and inability to housebreak.

It is likely that in a few decades, the Goldendoodle will be come a breed, thanks to the work of dedicated breeders.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't get a doodle dog. Get a golden, lab, or poodle.

Why?

they are mutts, not a real breed. yet.

What difference does it make if they aren't a "Real Breed?" You can't show them??

I think mutts are far superior to purebred dogs. But isn't the point of buying a breed of dog to control the temperament and hair type of the dog you get? Or I guess hunting or herding if you are into that sort of thing?

Buying a Doodle makes about as much sense to me as buying any dog.

Real breeds is formed for years, have standards - in looks, temperament, behavior. responsible breeders work on improving (or not - some breeds got worse in US, and people are looking for EU breeders/dogs with Euro blood lines, but whatever) breed characteristics etc. So, by getting puppy from responsible breeder you know exactly what you'll get.

Mutts are dark horses. You never now what traits of what breed you'll receive. It doesn't make them worse, its just what it is.

My point is that if you want a mutt - you go to shelter. You want a pure breed - responsible breeders are for you.
Paying thousands for a mutt with unpredictable traits? Thanks, but no thanks. I'd rather adopt from a pond.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't get a doodle dog. Get a golden, lab, or poodle.

Why?

they are mutts, not a real breed. yet.

What difference does it make if they aren't a "Real Breed?" You can't show them??

I think mutts are far superior to purebred dogs. But isn't the point of buying a breed of dog to control the temperament and hair type of the dog you get? Or I guess hunting or herding if you are into that sort of thing?

Buying a Doodle makes about as much sense to me as buying any dog.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't get a doodle dog. Get a golden, lab, or poodle.

Why?

they are mutts, not a real breed. yet.

Deb's Doodles in VA

Anonymous wrote:Don't get a doodle dog. Get a golden, lab, or poodle.

Why?

Anonymous wrote:Don't get a doodle dog. Get a golden, lab, or poodle.

Don't get a doodle dog. Get a golden, lab, or poodle.

Anyone else recently??

We had a wonderful labradoodle from Old Mill, BUT, I would not recommend them as a breeder. Within the first two weeks of getting our puppy he had to be SERIOUSLY dewormed, and he had a urinary tract infection. He grew to be just under 7 years old, when he developed a rare form of leukemia and we lost him. He had a spectacular personality and was the sweetest dog ever, but based on my experience and overall impression of Old Mill, I would not recommend her as a breeder. I find it implausible to think that they can provide exceptional care to the adult dogs when there are so, so many under their care.

We got a labradoodle from Old Mill Doodles 6 years ago. She doesn't breed them anymore because they were shedding more than expected. Our guy is a beauty. Stubborn as hell but the most loving dog you can ever imagine. Weighs a 100 pounds but thinks he is a lap dog and that's where he ends up every evening.

Friends have and are happy. However, the process of getting one is insane. You are on a list and must respond immediately when she notifies you of a litter or they will be gone. Can take many months. We gave up and got one somewhere else.

Anyone get a Sproodle (or a golden doodle) from Old Mill doodles in Virginia?