Anonymous
Post 12/05/2016 21:26     Subject: Ivanka's business deals with Japanese firm (while sitting in on meeting with Abe)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Ivanka Trump isn't signing off on uranium deals to Russia aka Clinton and Obama. She's in fashion. Do I care?


What?! Clinton was SoS and Obama was POTUS. You can disagree with their policies, but you can't disagree that they should have been involved with foreign affairs.


She and Kushner have NO place being there. If she isn't in foreign affairs, no reason to be at meeting. If she's running a company with conflicts of interest, then again, even more of a reason why she should not be there.

The fact that they do all this with no reporters in the room is just a signal to everyone that they plan to do whatever the F they want, regardless of the laws. Dangerous.


How does it harm the US if Ivanka makes money on a Japanese clothing line? It's tacky, but doesn't bother me.

Now selling meetings for donations, selling uranium to Russia, arms to various countries, etc. bothers me.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2016 21:05     Subject: Ivanka's business deals with Japanese firm (while sitting in on meeting with Abe)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Ivanka Trump isn't signing off on uranium deals to Russia aka Clinton and Obama. She's in fashion. Do I care?


What?! Clinton was SoS and Obama was POTUS. You can disagree with their policies, but you can't disagree that they should have been involved with foreign affairs.


Sadly as a country we are becoming more and more ignorant. Trumpers are too dumb to realize they've been had.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2016 20:33     Subject: Ivanka's business deals with Japanese firm (while sitting in on meeting with Abe)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Ivanka Trump isn't signing off on uranium deals to Russia aka Clinton and Obama. She's in fashion. Do I care?


What?! Clinton was SoS and Obama was POTUS. You can disagree with their policies, but you can't disagree that they should have been involved with foreign affairs.


She and Kushner have NO place being there. If she isn't in foreign affairs, no reason to be at meeting. If she's running a company with conflicts of interest, then again, even more of a reason why she should not be there.

The fact that they do all this with no reporters in the room is just a signal to everyone that they plan to do whatever the F they want, regardless of the laws. Dangerous.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2016 17:54     Subject: Ivanka's business deals with Japanese firm (while sitting in on meeting with Abe)
Anonymous wrote:
Ivanka Trump isn't signing off on uranium deals to Russia aka Clinton and Obama. She's in fashion. Do I care?


What?! Clinton was SoS and Obama was POTUS. You can disagree with their policies, but you can't disagree that they should have been involved with foreign affairs.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2016 17:52     Subject: Ivanka's business deals with Japanese firm (while sitting in on meeting with Abe)
Anonymous wrote:http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ivanka-trump-business-deal-during-japan-abe-meeting

"When Donald Trump met with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Nov. 17, his first such meeting with a foreign leader as president-elect, Ivanka Trump's fashion company was holding a private viewing of her products in Japan, a small part in a deal two years in the making, the New York Times reported Sunday.

Ivanka Trump is expected to reach a licensing deal with the Japanese apparel company Sanei International, whose parent company has as a majority shareholder the Development Bank of Japan, which is owned by the Japanese government, according to the Times report."

This is just lovely. They are unbelievably greedy and put their personal business profits ahead of any real interest in America's well-being. I would love to see what Republicans would say if Michelle Obama owned an international company and sat in on her husband's meetings with heads of state.



Ivanka Trump isn't signing off on uranium deals to Russia aka Clinton and Obama. She's in fashion. Do I care?
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2016 17:36     Subject: Ivanka's business deals with Japanese firm (while sitting in on meeting with Abe)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Back to the Trumps...

The Bannon profile someone posted on another thread is interesting in the context of Trump's business dealings:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747

Agree or disagree with his premises, you have to admit that Bannon has a well thought-out strategy that is decidedly focused on the middle-class economy at the expense of the billionaire elites. And while Trump may be able to find the words to sell Bannon's message, I don't think he believes in it in the same way. Bannon, in cut-offs and threadbare t-shirts could not be more opposite to Trump in his gold-plated palace. Bannon's utopia can only happen at the expense of people like Trump (well, Ivanka more than Trump, real estate moguls can do fine in an infrastructure-spending driven economy).

So how does that tension play out. Does Trump let Bannon continue to push policies that hurt his own bottom line? Or does Trump push back and realign himself with the corporatist Republicans? Bannon's pretty smart, so maybe he finds a way to shield Trump from the negative effects on people like him of his policies. But I can't help feeling like there's something not so neat about Bannon's governing strategy...which is quite different from his tightly-developed campaigning one.


I don't take anything Bannon says at face value. His rhetoric is laced with dog whistles. He doesn't care about the middle class economy. What he cares about is destroying "globalization." This is code for "foreigners."


Is your argument that Bannon's end goal is isolationist oligarchies around the world? That's not incompatible with what he seems to be doing. But I'm curious if you can provide citations for it.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2016 16:02     Subject: Ivanka's business deals with Japanese firm (while sitting in on meeting with Abe)
Anonymous wrote:Back to the Trumps...

The Bannon profile someone posted on another thread is interesting in the context of Trump's business dealings:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747

Agree or disagree with his premises, you have to admit that Bannon has a well thought-out strategy that is decidedly focused on the middle-class economy at the expense of the billionaire elites. And while Trump may be able to find the words to sell Bannon's message, I don't think he believes in it in the same way. Bannon, in cut-offs and threadbare t-shirts could not be more opposite to Trump in his gold-plated palace. Bannon's utopia can only happen at the expense of people like Trump (well, Ivanka more than Trump, real estate moguls can do fine in an infrastructure-spending driven economy).

So how does that tension play out. Does Trump let Bannon continue to push policies that hurt his own bottom line? Or does Trump push back and realign himself with the corporatist Republicans? Bannon's pretty smart, so maybe he finds a way to shield Trump from the negative effects on people like him of his policies. But I can't help feeling like there's something not so neat about Bannon's governing strategy...which is quite different from his tightly-developed campaigning one.


I don't take anything Bannon says at face value. His rhetoric is laced with dog whistles. He doesn't care about the middle class economy. What he cares about is destroying "globalization." This is code for "foreigners."
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2016 14:02     Subject: Ivanka's business deals with Japanese firm (while sitting in on meeting with Abe)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ivanka-trump-business-deal-during-japan-abe-meeting

"When Donald Trump met with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Nov. 17, his first such meeting with a foreign leader as president-elect, Ivanka Trump's fashion company was holding a private viewing of her products in Japan, a small part in a deal two years in the making, the New York Times reported Sunday.

Ivanka Trump is expected to reach a licensing deal with the Japanese apparel company Sanei International, whose parent company has as a majority shareholder the Development Bank of Japan, which is owned by the Japanese government, according to the Times report."

This is just lovely. They are unbelievably greedy and put their personal business profits ahead of any real interest in America's well-being. I would love to see what Republicans would say if Michelle Obama owned an international company and sat in on her husband's meetings with heads of state.



This is too preposterous to even make into a fake news story!


That's what I'm saying. Welcome to a world in which The Onion is now more plausible than any real news we are dealing with.

Ivanka and her straight up nepotism/corruption... what's next, Carson being appointed to some completely random post after saying he's not qualified to do anything? HAHAH-----oh, wait.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2016 12:26     Subject: Ivanka's business deals with Japanese firm (while sitting in on meeting with Abe)
"In late summer when I went up to see Steve Bannon, then recently named CEO of the Donald Trump presidential campaign, in his office at Trump Tower in New York, he outlined a preposterous-sounding scenario. Trump, he said, would do surprisingly well among women, Hispanics and African-Americans, in addition to workingmen, and hence take Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan — and therefore the election. On Nov. 15, when I went back to Trump Tower, Bannon, promoted by the president-elect to chief strategist for the incoming administration, and by the media as the official symbol of all things hateful and virulent about the coming Trump presidency, said, as matter-of-factly as when he first sketched it out for me, "I told you so.""

The reporter starts out with the fact that Bannon was correct. That's amazing.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2016 12:24     Subject: Ivanka's business deals with Japanese firm (while sitting in on meeting with Abe)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Back to the Trumps...

The Bannon profile someone posted on another thread is interesting in the context of Trump's business dealings:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747

Agree or disagree with his premises, you have to admit that Bannon has a well thought-out strategy that is decidedly focused on the middle-class economy at the expense of the billionaire elites. And while Trump may be able to find the words to sell Bannon's message, I don't think he believes in it in the same way. Bannon, in cut-offs and threadbare t-shirts could not be more opposite to Trump in his gold-plated palace. Bannon's utopia can only happen at the expense of people like Trump (well, Ivanka more than Trump, real estate moguls can do fine in an infrastructure-spending driven economy).

So how does that tension play out. Does Trump let Bannon continue to push policies that hurt his own bottom line? Or does Trump push back and realign himself with the corporatist Republicans? Bannon's pretty smart, so maybe he finds a way to shield Trump from the negative effects on people like him of his policies. But I can't help feeling like there's something not so neat about Bannon's governing strategy...which is quite different from his tightly-developed campaigning one.


Hollywood Reporter? Color me impressed.


Read the article. Or are you suggesting that the Bannon quotes in it are made up? There is much less editorializing than straight up providing a read out of what Bannon says. And he's not at all shy about his plans.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2016 12:23     Subject: Ivanka's business deals with Japanese firm (while sitting in on meeting with Abe)
Anonymous wrote:Back to the Trumps...

The Bannon profile someone posted on another thread is interesting in the context of Trump's business dealings:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747

Agree or disagree with his premises, you have to admit that Bannon has a well thought-out strategy that is decidedly focused on the middle-class economy at the expense of the billionaire elites. And while Trump may be able to find the words to sell Bannon's message, I don't think he believes in it in the same way. Bannon, in cut-offs and threadbare t-shirts could not be more opposite to Trump in his gold-plated palace. Bannon's utopia can only happen at the expense of people like Trump (well, Ivanka more than Trump, real estate moguls can do fine in an infrastructure-spending driven economy).

So how does that tension play out. Does Trump let Bannon continue to push policies that hurt his own bottom line? Or does Trump push back and realign himself with the corporatist Republicans? Bannon's pretty smart, so maybe he finds a way to shield Trump from the negative effects on people like him of his policies. But I can't help feeling like there's something not so neat about Bannon's governing strategy...which is quite different from his tightly-developed campaigning one.


Hollywood Reporter? Color me impressed.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2016 12:14     Subject: Ivanka's business deals with Japanese firm (while sitting in on meeting with Abe)
Back to the Trumps...

The Bannon profile someone posted on another thread is interesting in the context of Trump's business dealings:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747

Agree or disagree with his premises, you have to admit that Bannon has a well thought-out strategy that is decidedly focused on the middle-class economy at the expense of the billionaire elites. And while Trump may be able to find the words to sell Bannon's message, I don't think he believes in it in the same way. Bannon, in cut-offs and threadbare t-shirts could not be more opposite to Trump in his gold-plated palace. Bannon's utopia can only happen at the expense of people like Trump (well, Ivanka more than Trump, real estate moguls can do fine in an infrastructure-spending driven economy).

So how does that tension play out. Does Trump let Bannon continue to push policies that hurt his own bottom line? Or does Trump push back and realign himself with the corporatist Republicans? Bannon's pretty smart, so maybe he finds a way to shield Trump from the negative effects on people like him of his policies. But I can't help feeling like there's something not so neat about Bannon's governing strategy...which is quite different from his tightly-developed campaigning one.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2016 12:05     Subject: Ivanka's business deals with Japanese firm (while sitting in on meeting with Abe)
Anonymous wrote:http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ivanka-trump-business-deal-during-japan-abe-meeting

"When Donald Trump met with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Nov. 17, his first such meeting with a foreign leader as president-elect, Ivanka Trump's fashion company was holding a private viewing of her products in Japan, a small part in a deal two years in the making, the New York Times reported Sunday.

Ivanka Trump is expected to reach a licensing deal with the Japanese apparel company Sanei International, whose parent company has as a majority shareholder the Development Bank of Japan, which is owned by the Japanese government, according to the Times report."

This is just lovely. They are unbelievably greedy and put their personal business profits ahead of any real interest in America's well-being. I would love to see what Republicans would say if Michelle Obama owned an international company and sat in on her husband's meetings with heads of state.



This is too preposterous to even make into a fake news story!
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2016 11:47     Subject: Ivanka's business deals with Japanese firm (while sitting in on meeting with Abe)
I suppose there is the possibility that Trump doesn't understand protocol and Ivanka was just sitting in because she happened to be in town

Yeah, for whatever reason no one seems to care. Make America Great Again seems to mean, "What's good for Trump International is good for America."
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2016 11:39     Subject: Ivanka's business deals with Japanese firm (while sitting in on meeting with Abe)
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ivanka-trump-business-deal-during-japan-abe-meeting

"When Donald Trump met with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Nov. 17, his first such meeting with a foreign leader as president-elect, Ivanka Trump's fashion company was holding a private viewing of her products in Japan, a small part in a deal two years in the making, the New York Times reported Sunday.

Ivanka Trump is expected to reach a licensing deal with the Japanese apparel company Sanei International, whose parent company has as a majority shareholder the Development Bank of Japan, which is owned by the Japanese government, according to the Times report."

This is just lovely. They are unbelievably greedy and put their personal business profits ahead of any real interest in America's well-being. I would love to see what Republicans would say if Michelle Obama owned an international company and sat in on her husband's meetings with heads of state.