The researchers compiling this list are clearly not following what is happening at UW-Madison.

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measure their academic research performance and their global and regional reputations

So, schools where research and publishing might edge out things like teaching undergraduates?

Go to community college if you are not interested in research and quality of faculty.

measure their academic research performance and their global and regional reputations

So, schools where research and publishing might edge out things like teaching undergraduates?

Can someone help me understand why UMDCP is #40 on the global univ list but does more poorly in the US univ list? Is it the quality of teaching or is it the quality of life students experience? We know that roughly 40 percent of magnet students from MCPS end up here so we are assuming these kids are satisfied with this affordable in state option. These are kids who could presumably get significant merit aid at many colleges that are ranked in the same region as UMDCP (not in the top 50 but pretty close)

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Anonymous wrote:This list is *very* heavily UC weighted. I find this very hard to believe. Over Yale, Penn, Brown, Cornell, etc. Has Silicon Valley pushed up the competitiveness of the UC schools that much?

Yes. One thing in common for Yale, Penn Brown etc. are they are relatively weak in engineering/technology/computer science (maybe not so much in pure sciences). One reason Stanford has gained so much and is (sometimes) considered to be the best university over Harvard since Harvard is week in engineering/technology/computer science. Technology/engineering will play even more of a role for the future universities.

UC Berkeley was ranked around 8th or 9th in the domestic USNW college rankings when they originally began ranking universities in the 80s. The change in methodology and/or weight (especially on endowment, alumni giving etc.) favors private universities so UC Berkeley's ranking fell somewhat for the domestic ranking over the years. Global ones I think gives less weight to endowment size, alumni contributions etc.

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Anonymous wrote:This list is *very* heavily UC weighted. I find this very hard to believe. Over Yale, Penn, Brown, Cornell, etc. Has Silicon Valley pushed up the competitiveness of the UC schools that much?

Yes. One thing in common for Yale, Penn Brown etc. are they are relatively weak in engineering/technology/computer science (maybe not so much in pure sciences). One reason Stanford has gained so much and is (sometimes) considered to be the best university over Harvard since Harvard is week in engineering/technology/computer science. Technology/engineering will play even more of a role for the future universities.

Very interesting. Thank you for your response.

Anonymous wrote:Where's UVA?

Uva is not really respected outside Virginia except maybe for law school.

Anonymous wrote:This list is *very* heavily UC weighted. I find this very hard to believe. Over Yale, Penn, Brown, Cornell, etc. Has Silicon Valley pushed up the competitiveness of the UC schools that much?

Yes. One thing in common for Yale, Penn Brown etc. are they are relatively weak in engineering/technology/computer science (maybe not so much in pure sciences). One reason Stanford has gained so much and is (sometimes) considered to be the best university over Harvard since Harvard is week in engineering/technology/computer science. Technology/engineering will play even more of a role for the future universities.

This list is *very* heavily UC weighted. I find this very hard to believe. Over Yale, Penn, Brown, Cornell, etc. Has Silicon Valley pushed up the competitiveness of the UC schools that much?

Anonymous wrote:Where's UVA?

UVA is ranked at no. 99.

UMCP is at #40.

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Anonymous wrote:Where's UVA?

UVA doesn't belong in the top 30.

I suggest you look up the word "facetious".

Anonymous wrote:Where's UVA?

UVA doesn't belong in the top 30.

Where's UVA?

"These institutions from the U.S. and around 60 other countries have been ranked based on 12 indicators that measure their academic research performance and their global and regional reputations. Students can use these rankings to explore the higher education options that exist beyond their own countries' borders and to compare key aspects of schools' research missions. These are the world's top 1,000 universities."

#1 Harvard University United States Cambridge, MA
#2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology United States Cambridge, MA
#3 Stanford University United States Stanford, CA
#4 University of California--Berkeley United States Berkeley, CA
#5 California Institute of Technology United States Pasadena, CA
#6 University of Oxford United Kingdom Oxford
#7 University of Cambridge United Kingdom Cambridge
#8 Princeton University United States Princeton, NJ
#9 Columbia University United States New York, NY
#10 University of California--Los Angeles United States Los Angeles, CA
#11 Johns Hopkins University United States Baltimore, MD
#11 Tie University of Washington United States Seattle, WA
#13 University of Chicago United States Chicago, IL
#14 Yale University United States New Haven, CT
#15 University of California--San Diego United States La Jolla, CA
#16 University of California San Francisco United States San Francisco, CA
#17 Tie University of Michigan--Ann Arbor United States Ann Arbor, MI
#17 Tie University of Pennsylvania United States Philadelphia, PA
#19 Tie Duke University United States Durham, NC
#19 Tie Imperial College London United Kingdom London
#21 University of Toronto Canada Toronto, Ontario
#22 Cornell University United States Ithaca, NY
#23 University College London United Kingdom London
#24 University of California--Santa Barbara United States Santa Barbara, CA
#25 Northwestern University United States Evanston, IL
#26 Washington University in St. Louis United States St. Louis, MO
#27 Tie New York University United States New York, NY
#27 Tie University of California--Santa Cruz United States Santa Cruz, CA
#29 University of Wisconsin--Madison United States Madison, WI
#30 University of Texas--Austin United States Austin, TX