Anonymous
Post 10/03/2016 08:17     Subject: cogat in fall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid has never used our computer at home. He is in scone grade and left handed. They did something in class with computers and the teacher commented to me she could tell my son hadn't used a mouse before. She said he did better when she switched the mouse go left side. Maybe I should have him practice moving mouse and clicking?


Why is that? You clearly have a computer so why, in this day and age, would you not expose your child to it? I cannot understand. Limiting time playing on the computer is understandable, but not introducing it to get your child comfortable on it sounds so 1990. Is there a reason?


You sound ridiculous. We're talking about 6 year olds.


I thought we were talking about the Cogat - which means 2nd graders and 7 year olds. FCPS has kindergarteners using computers on a regular basis, so I'm not sure why it's ridiculous to think second graders would have a basic level of computer literacy and using a mouse.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2016 08:04     Subject: cogat in fall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid has never used our computer at home. He is in scone grade and left handed. They did something in class with computers and the teacher commented to me she could tell my son hadn't used a mouse before. She said he did better when she switched the mouse go left side. Maybe I should have him practice moving mouse and clicking?


Why is that? You clearly have a computer so why, in this day and age, would you not expose your child to it? I cannot understand. Limiting time playing on the computer is understandable, but not introducing it to get your child comfortable on it sounds so 1990. Is there a reason?


You sound ridiculous. We're talking about 6 year olds.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2016 22:06     Subject: cogat in fall
Anonymous wrote:My kid has never used our computer at home. He is in scone grade and left handed. They did something in class with computers and the teacher commented to me she could tell my son hadn't used a mouse before. She said he did better when she switched the mouse go left side. Maybe I should have him practice moving mouse and clicking?


Why is that? You clearly have a computer so why, in this day and age, would you not expose your child to it? I cannot understand. Limiting time playing on the computer is understandable, but not introducing it to get your child comfortable on it sounds so 1990. Is there a reason?
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2016 22:00     Subject: cogat in fall
I consider us very lucky that computer lab is offered at our (public) elementary school starting in K. DS had lab 2x/wk in K, once a week in 1st, and this year 2x/wk in 2nd. Kids master the mouse in K.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2016 21:29     Subject: cogat in fall
Anonymous wrote:My kid has never used our computer at home. He is in scone grade and left handed. They did something in class with computers and the teacher commented to me she could tell my son hadn't used a mouse before. She said he did better when she switched the mouse go left side. Maybe I should have him practice moving mouse and clicking?


Yes, as he will need to use a computer for eCart as well.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2016 20:37     Subject: cogat in fall
My kid has never used our computer at home. He is in scone grade and left handed. They did something in class with computers and the teacher commented to me she could tell my son hadn't used a mouse before. She said he did better when she switched the mouse go left side. Maybe I should have him practice moving mouse and clicking?
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2016 20:31     Subject: cogat in fall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We were informed that cogat will be conducted in Oct between 17th and 28th. Is cogat similar to nnat in 1st grade in terms how it is administered? nnat was computer based, is cogat also computer based
Also it appears that there are lot more questions in cogat - I am not sure if kids can do all the questions in couple days. Any ideas on how it is administered is great appreciated

Thank you


If the makers of the test think it's reasonable to expect the kids to do all the questions in a couple of days, then it is. But if your dc cannot, then not only would you find out that your dc was not "gifted" but that they were "learning challenged." You can be sure that the test makers know what they're doing and are aware of what the abilities of the typical 2nd grader are.

You could ask the teacher if the test is taken on the computer, but it really doesn't matter. 2nd graders know how to use computers and take tests on computers and it is age appropriate, so that's all that matters.


Actually, you may want to retract some of your smugness. One of my kids took the NNAT on the computer when it was just being administered that way. His teacher later told me that she could tell the way he was taking it that he wasn't very computer literate and she thought it may have affected his performance. He later got a 140 on the CogAT and a 150 FSIQ. The first grade teacher said that it appeared evident to her who were the two kids in the class who didn't use computers a lot. His NNAT score was not great.


Your answer is very hard to follow. The teacher said that there were two kids who did not appear computer literate. And HIS (not THEIR) score was (not scores were) "not great"? Huh?? Was this just your kid? Your kid and another kid? Two kids and not your kid?

At any rate, I really hope you are a troll (whose third language is English) or that you are only referring to your own kid (but you say 2 kids???). Mother wise, the teacher who was gossiping to a parent about other kids' (or another kid's ??? Unclear on this point) computer literacy and NNAT score should be fired. I really, really hope some teacher didn't say to you, "your kid's score may have been low because he isn't comfortable with computers. Larlo had the same problem. He isn't familiar with computers and his score sucked too." (Or even said, "another kid without a lot of computer experience also had a crappy score," without naming Larlo). Either way, that's terrible. Quit gossiping about other kids and worry about your own.


Wow...just wow. Hope your child learns tolerance from his/her other parent.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2016 14:03     Subject: cogat in fall
Grow up people.

I read the statement being parsed as "I am not sure whether the test is spread over several days" not questioning whether children were intellectually capable of answering those questions if given several full days to do so.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2016 20:26     Subject: cogat in fall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We were informed that cogat will be conducted in Oct between 17th and 28th. Is cogat similar to nnat in 1st grade in terms how it is administered? nnat was computer based, is cogat also computer based
Also it appears that there are lot more questions in cogat - I am not sure if kids can do all the questions in couple days. Any ideas on how it is administered is great appreciated

Thank you


If the makers of the test think it's reasonable to expect the kids to do all the questions in a couple of days, then it is. But if your dc cannot, then not only would you find out that your dc was not "gifted" but that they were "learning challenged." You can be sure that the test makers know what they're doing and are aware of what the abilities of the typical 2nd grader are.

You could ask the teacher if the test is taken on the computer, but it really doesn't matter. 2nd graders know how to use computers and take tests on computers and it is age appropriate, so that's all that matters.


Actually, you may want to retract some of your smugness. One of my kids took the NNAT on the computer when it was just being administered that way. His teacher later told me that she could tell the way he was taking it that he wasn't very computer literate and she thought it may have affected his performance. He later got a 140 on the CogAT and a 150 FSIQ. The first grade teacher said that it appeared evident to her who were the two kids in the class who didn't use computers a lot. His NNAT score was not great.


Your answer is very hard to follow. The teacher said that there were two kids who did not appear computer literate. And HIS (not THEIR) score was (not scores were) "not great"? Huh?? Was this just your kid? Your kid and another kid? Two kids and not your kid?

At any rate, I really hope you are a troll (whose third language is English) or that you are only referring to your own kid (but you say 2 kids???). Mother wise, the teacher who was gossiping to a parent about other kids' (or another kid's ??? Unclear on this point) computer literacy and NNAT score should be fired. I really, really hope some teacher didn't say to you, "your kid's score may have been low because he isn't comfortable with computers. Larlo had the same problem. He isn't familiar with computers and his score sucked too." (Or even said, "another kid without a lot of computer experience also had a crappy score," without naming Larlo). Either way, that's terrible. Quit gossiping about other kids and worry about your own.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2016 15:18     Subject: Re:cogat in fall
I have no idea if CogAT is given on computer. I do know my kid did not have access to computers until this year as a 3rd grader in AAP due to the projects requiring it. We purposely limited screen time (tv and computers) in my house. When DD took NNAT and CogAT she did poorly on both. I have no idea if it was because of 1 or both were on computers or not. We had her IQ tested and it is a 147. I say this to say, it is possible some kids are not comfortable with computers and that may play a role in their scores (I don't know if it did for mine or not). These tests are not the end all be all of giftedness. I tell everyone to get an IQ test even if their kid is in pool because the score could be 13_ which is nice, but if the IQ is much higher, you're a shoe-in.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2016 11:21     Subject: cogat in fall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We were informed that cogat will be conducted in Oct between 17th and 28th. Is cogat similar to nnat in 1st grade in terms how it is administered? nnat was computer based, is cogat also computer based
Also it appears that there are lot more questions in cogat - I am not sure if kids can do all the questions in couple days. Any ideas on how it is administered is great appreciated

Thank you


If the makers of the test think it's reasonable to expect the kids to do all the questions in a couple of days, then it is. But if your dc cannot, then not only would you find out that your dc was not "gifted" but that they were "learning challenged." You can be sure that the test makers know what they're doing and are aware of what the abilities of the typical 2nd grader are.

You could ask the teacher if the test is taken on the computer, but it really doesn't matter. 2nd graders know how to use computers and take tests on computers and it is age appropriate, so that's all that matters.


Actually, you may want to retract some of your smugness. One of my kids took the NNAT on the computer when it was just being administered that way. His teacher later told me that she could tell the way he was taking it that he wasn't very computer literate and she thought it may have affected his performance. He later got a 140 on the CogAT and a 150 FSIQ. The first grade teacher said that it appeared evident to her who were the two kids in the class who didn't use computers a lot. His NNAT score was not great.


Not being smug, simply stating that the vast majority of kids, even 2nd graders, are very comfortable using computers. Even if they are the rare kid who doesn't use them at home for some reason, they are using them in the classroom on a daily basis. Was your dc not exposed to computers?
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2016 10:50     Subject: cogat in fall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We were informed that cogat will be conducted in Oct between 17th and 28th. Is cogat similar to nnat in 1st grade in terms how it is administered? nnat was computer based, is cogat also computer based
Also it appears that there are lot more questions in cogat - I am not sure if kids can do all the questions in couple days. Any ideas on how it is administered is great appreciated

Thank you


If the makers of the test think it's reasonable to expect the kids to do all the questions in a couple of days, then it is. But if your dc cannot, then not only would you find out that your dc was not "gifted" but that they were "learning challenged." You can be sure that the test makers know what they're doing and are aware of what the abilities of the typical 2nd grader are.

You could ask the teacher if the test is taken on the computer, but it really doesn't matter. 2nd graders know how to use computers and take tests on computers and it is age appropriate, so that's all that matters.


Actually, you may want to retract some of your smugness. One of my kids took the NNAT on the computer when it was just being administered that way. His teacher later told me that she could tell the way he was taking it that he wasn't very computer literate and she thought it may have affected his performance. He later got a 140 on the CogAT and a 150 FSIQ. The first grade teacher said that it appeared evident to her who were the two kids in the class who didn't use computers a lot. His NNAT score was not great.


Does this mean that cogat is not computer based this fall
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2016 10:47     Subject: cogat in fall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We were informed that cogat will be conducted in Oct between 17th and 28th. Is cogat similar to nnat in 1st grade in terms how it is administered? nnat was computer based, is cogat also computer based
Also it appears that there are lot more questions in cogat - I am not sure if kids can do all the questions in couple days. Any ideas on how it is administered is great appreciated

Thank you


If the makers of the test think it's reasonable to expect the kids to do all the questions in a couple of days, then it is. But if your dc cannot, then not only would you find out that your dc was not "gifted" but that they were "learning challenged." You can be sure that the test makers know what they're doing and are aware of what the abilities of the typical 2nd grader are.

You could ask the teacher if the test is taken on the computer, but it really doesn't matter. 2nd graders know how to use computers and take tests on computers and it is age appropriate, so that's all that matters.


Actually, you may want to retract some of your smugness. One of my kids took the NNAT on the computer when it was just being administered that way. His teacher later told me that she could tell the way he was taking it that he wasn't very computer literate and she thought it may have affected his performance. He later got a 140 on the CogAT and a 150 FSIQ. The first grade teacher said that it appeared evident to her who were the two kids in the class who didn't use computers a lot. His NNAT score was not great.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2016 09:30     Subject: cogat in fall
Anonymous wrote:We were informed that cogat will be conducted in Oct between 17th and 28th. Is cogat similar to nnat in 1st grade in terms how it is administered? nnat was computer based, is cogat also computer based
Also it appears that there are lot more questions in cogat - I am not sure if kids can do all the questions in couple days. Any ideas on how it is administered is great appreciated

Thank you


If the makers of the test think it's reasonable to expect the kids to do all the questions in a couple of days, then it is. But if your dc cannot, then not only would you find out that your dc was not "gifted" but that they were "learning challenged." You can be sure that the test makers know what they're doing and are aware of what the abilities of the typical 2nd grader are.

You could ask the teacher if the test is taken on the computer, but it really doesn't matter. 2nd graders know how to use computers and take tests on computers and it is age appropriate, so that's all that matters.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2016 09:24     Subject: cogat in fall
We were informed that cogat will be conducted in Oct between 17th and 28th. Is cogat similar to nnat in 1st grade in terms how it is administered? nnat was computer based, is cogat also computer based
Also it appears that there are lot more questions in cogat - I am not sure if kids can do all the questions in couple days. Any ideas on how it is administered is great appreciated

Thank you