did you need to start another thread on this?

These differences are perceived by people who are attempting to rationalize joining the rat race at 13 years old (or earlier) and going to an "elite" school. The rest of us don't care much (AND I had fun in college).

Anonymous wrote:OP - millions of people live their lives without having gone to an ivy league school. You make it sound like one's life is over if one doesn't go to an ivy. If that's how you feel, I'd say you have bigger issues than not having an ivy league education.

And the OP probably indoctrinates his/her kids in this worldview, attaching their self-worth to the college outcome.

Anonymous wrote:Huh. I went to Binghamton. I'm happily married to someone who went to a state school in their state. I've NEVER apologized for where I went to school and never would. I've never had a hard time getting a job. I've never felt I have to PROVE how smart I am.

This seems like a load of crap.

Agree. I went to Cornell and DH went to state school in his home state and none of OPs post rings true to me.

These differences are perceived by people who are attempting to rationalize joining the rat race at 13 years old (or earlier) and going to an "elite" school. The rest of us don't care much (AND I had fun in college).

Anonymous wrote:Huh. I went to Binghamton. I'm happily married to someone who went to a state school in their state. I've NEVER apologized for where I went to school and never would. I've never had a hard time getting a job. I've never felt I have to PROVE how smart I am.

This seems like a load of crap.

All due respect, you have no idea what an elite college is like. As Rumsfeld would put it, the elite college experience is a known unknown to you.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a URM kid, do you think a 'lesser' Ivy (Brown, Cornell or Dartmouth) is better than being special "scholar" at a another university?

What does URM stand for?

PP is asking if it's better for a black or Hispanic student to barely get into a lesser Ivy (Brown-Cornell-Dartmouth) or be a special full scholar at a flagship (UNC-UVA-UMD).

Huh. I went to Binghamton. I'm happily married to someone who went to a state school in their state. I've NEVER apologized for where I went to school and never would. I've never had a hard time getting a job. I've never felt I have to PROVE how smart I am.

This seems like a load of crap.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a URM kid, do you think a 'lesser' Ivy (Brown, Cornell or Dartmouth) is better than being special "scholar" at a another university?

What does URM stand for?

under represented minority group, aka blacks and hispanics.

OP - millions of people live their lives without having gone to an ivy league school. You make it sound like one's life is over if one doesn't go to an ivy. If that's how you feel, I'd say you have bigger issues than not having an ivy league education.

Anonymous wrote:For a URM kid, do you think a 'lesser' Ivy (Brown, Cornell or Dartmouth) is better than being special "scholar" at a another university?

What does URM stand for?

Yeah, I don't buy the not having to prove how smart you are. I have met many idiots who went to top tier schools, and many brilliant people that didn't. I suspect most of us have similar experiences.

For a URM kid, do you think a 'lesser' Ivy (Brown, Cornell or Dartmouth) is better than being special "scholar" at a another university?

Anonymous wrote:1. A lifetime of not having to prove how smart you are (especially important for women).

2. Many organizations only hire top tier* (especially in high-level finance, consulting and top law firms)

3. You never have to apologize for where you went, ex. "Why would you go to GWU and pay private tuition when a great state university would be cheaper?

4. Marriage market.

5. If you have to ask...

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I graduated from Harvard.

1. I still have to prove how smart I am. Once you're in the door, no one cares where you went to school. In other words. you still have to prove yourself. You realize that, right?
2. I have no interest in EVER working in finance/big law/etc. and I sure hope my kids don't, either.
3. I don't know anyone who apologizes for they went to school. I work with people who went to schools across the board - Harvard to Florida State.
4.

Anonymous wrote:1. A lifetime of not having to prove how smart you are (especially important for women).

2. Many organizations only hire top tier* (especially in high-level finance, consulting and top law firms)

3. You never have to apologize for where you went, ex. "Why would you go to GWU and pay private tuition when a great state university would be cheaper?

4. Marriage market.

5. If you have to ask...

*top 15 US News

I graduated from GMU and AU. I have never had to prove how smart I am beyond an initial conversation, nor have I ever had to apologize for my choices. I'm doing just fine in my career. And, I am happily married to another non-Top Tier grad.

1. A lifetime of not having to prove how smart you are (especially important for women).

2. Many organizations only hire top tier* (especially in high-level finance, consulting and top law firms)

3. You never have to apologize for where you went, ex. "Why would you go to GWU and pay private tuition when a great state university would be cheaper?

4. Marriage market.

5. If you have to ask...

*top 15 US News