Guy here. If the second date was in the day time, that could be the problem. Day time, people around. It's hard to have a romantic, private moment in those conditions. And we know a lot of girls don't like blatant PDA either. Next date, ensure that the date is at night and you'll have some privacy towards the end (if you drive separate, park in a parking lot vs the space right in front of the restaurant, etc).

Most guys today know that if she agrees to a second date, you'd better go for the kiss then. My guess is that the conditions of the daytime date didn't lend themselves to an opportunity for it and that he is ruminating over it now.

Man who usually did not kiss on a first date unless I knew the woman for a bit beforehand. Second date, generally a kiss, possibly a little more. My theory is that women are so used to guys who are aggressive that if you chill the first date or two, it is going to wind up better because you look more in control.

Took till the 4th date to hold hands with this one guy. And then we careened into bed. And now we're married and have a kid.

He did say later that it meant a lot to him to make the first move, even though it took a long time. He tends to be passive about too much, so most women made the first move. I didn't do that intentionally; I wasn't sure I was attracted to him.

Of course he still is too passive now, so maybe don't follow my lead.

I was the one to make the first move on our second date. DH just didn't want to rush me but was enthusiastic when I initiated.

OP I'm a guy, early 30s, help us out. Frankly men are put in the worst position. The difference for whether we're labelled creepy or attractive alpha is how much you're into us. So give us hints that you're into us and we'll respond by being the one to escalate physical touch. There's such a range of what women want out there we are constantly having to read the tea leaves. We suck at reading them. Give road markers.

DH and I had 3 dates before a real kiss. Two months before we were intimate. Lots of chemistry so it was very exciting despite being slow. He's a Southern gentleman.

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Anonymous wrote:No hand holding? Have you touched him at all? Like greet him with a hug?

Yes, we have hugged to greet and end the dates.

It's a new world, OP. If you want a move, make one!

I don't think it is unusual at all but I would like to know what a guy thinks. I'm a 45 yro woman.

He's obviously attracted to you if he asked you on a 2ND date so I think he is shy, or just polite and respectful. You may need to flirt with him a little the next time you see him.

Anonymous wrote:No hand holding? Have you touched him at all? Like greet him with a hug?

Yes, we have hugged to greet and end the dates.

No hand holding? Have you touched him at all? Like greet him with a hug?

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Anonymous wrote:We had a great second date (day time) but he still hasn't moved to kiss me or do anything physical. Is this normal? I'm used to dating agressive men but ones that ultimately aren't good guys because of it. This one is different but I still think it's unusual. But I would be happy to be wrong. What do you all think?

Age ?

Early/mid 40s

Dh didn't make a move on me til the 5th date. Some men are just old fashion. They are the good ones. Or the gay ones. Make sure you know the difference.

Anonymous wrote:We had a great second date (day time) but he still hasn't moved to kiss me or do anything physical. Is this normal? I'm used to dating agressive men but ones that ultimately aren't good guys because of it. This one is different but I still think it's unusual. But I would be happy to be wrong. What do you all think?

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We had a great second date (day time) but he still hasn't moved to kiss me or do anything physical. Is this normal? I'm used to dating agressive men but ones that ultimately aren't good guys because of it. This one is different but I still think it's unusual. But I would be happy to be wrong. What do you all think?