Anonymous
09/17/2016 13:08
Subject: Re:Applying to Sewanee ED
PaleoConPrep wrote:Future Trump supporter? You are free to express you views anywhere. Just don't expect people to take you seriously. [/quote wrote:
Well ok. If the Leftists don't take me seriously, they should not expect me to take them seriously. I have zero respect for Hillary Clinton. Trump is by no means my ideal candidate, but he's the best we have. The true rightist starts with what is possible. Because of this principle I support a loud-mouthed vulgarian for president against a gangster feminist allied to Black Lives Matter.
Your views on Israel will gain you respect and admiration from the campus Left.
Anonymous
09/17/2016 13:07
Subject: Re:Applying to Sewanee ED
PaleoConPrep wrote:Anonymous wrote:Surprising to me that anyone in high school who at least has a superficial knowledge of Straussians isn't able to aim higher than a mediocre liberal arts college. Troll?
Not a troll. I was very active on DCUM for a while, then took a break a few months ago. I have a passion for politics.(it'd be fair to call me a political wonk) While I am on the Far-Right politically, I've read various political philosophers. I love studying political philosophy, and exploring ideas. Academically, I've been told that I'm very bright, but also pretty lazy. At my best I can be an elite student, but I don't put in a ton of effort, so my stats are slightly above average. I get pretty average quarter grades, but my midterm and final exam grades are very high. Dr. Charles Murray (a man I have great respect for) often says that ability and desire are the two most important things for a student. I've got the ability, but very little desire. I'm bored in math and science courses. I just need to work on my motivation and work ethic. Question for you. In what world is Sewanee "mediocre?" Either you're a typical DCUM snob (who thinks that anything other than the NESCAC schools is mediocre) or your knowledge of the college landscape is dated. Sewanee was once mediocre, but their acceptance rate has really decreased over the past few years. I should be fine with getting in because I'm applying ED, and because I'm a full-pay student. It's got small classes, a prep-school feel, and a very nice campus. Putting rankings to the side for a moment, I don't see how places like Colby, Bates, Trinity, or Wesleyan are really that much better than a place like Sewanee.
It's a solid school. And with the exception of Wesleyan, you're right--not much difference.
PaleoConPrep
09/17/2016 12:43
Subject: Re:Applying to Sewanee ED
Future Trump supporter? You are free to express you views anywhere. Just don't expect people to take you seriously. [/quote wrote:
Well ok. If the Leftists don't take me seriously, they should not expect me to take them seriously. I have zero respect for Hillary Clinton. Trump is by no means my ideal candidate, but he's the best we have. The true rightist starts with what is possible. Because of this principle I support a loud-mouthed vulgarian for president against a gangster feminist allied to Black Lives Matter.
Anonymous
09/17/2016 12:32
Subject: Re:Applying to Sewanee ED
PaleoConPrep wrote:Anonymous wrote:PaleoConPrep wrote:Anonymous wrote:so what is your question? It appears that you've made your decision and you are announcing it to this board.
Well I do have a question about the atmosphere at the school these days. One trend I do dislike on college campuses is the silencing of people who hold politically incorrect views. (speech codes, "safe spaces", etc) While I do hold Far-Right views, I am a very open-minded person in the sense that I'm willing to consider all viewpoints. (including those that oppose mine) My view is that if you listen to me, I'll listen to you. If you respect me, I'll respect you. What I will NOT tolerate is someone telling me to "shut up" or whining to the administration about how I "offended" them, because my views are not similar to the views of the mainstream. Now while I may support him, I'm no Donald Trump(I'm not going to get in someone's face, shout, and call them names because they disagree with me) However, if a controversial issue comes up in or outside of class, I will not hesitate to give my opinion, and I will not sensor myself. I am a devout Christian, pro-life without exception, staunchly against the LGBT movement, a strong supporter of traditional gender roles, a harsh critic of Affirmative Action, and very anti-immigration. Like I said, I will give my opinions calmly, and without brashness or vulgarity. However, I will not sensor myself because some students are a little soft in the head. Calling me things like "racist", "sexist", "homophobe", "bigot", or shouting "hate speech!" is not going to silence me. I'll laugh at anyone who calls me one of these names, and then can't back up their claim. This sort of name-calling comes from Libs and modern "conservatives" Liberals call me a bigot because I'm socially conservative, and NeoCons will call me an Anti-Semite because I don't believe we should support Israel in any way. I am neither. That's why I'm not applying to Hillsdale. It's controlled by NeoCons/Straussians, and I think a Far-Right Christian Monarchist would be as uncomfortable there as a Green would be. I want a school that accepts all views, no matter how radical they may be. If someone says something stupid, they should be refuted, and that will end the matter. Silencing people does nothing. Are the students at Sewanee able to have polite disagreements, or have the SJWs taken over that school as well? Will I be free to express my views there?
Future Trump supporter? You are free to express you views anywhere. Just don't expect people to take you seriously.
can't have both ways.
Disagree. To be open-minded means that you are willing to consider views that are not your own, and that you show respect to those you disagree with. I am a very open-minded person in that sense. Like I said, as long as you respect me, I'll respect you. I'm no Liberal, but I think America needs a good dose of Classical Liberalism. We've got to be able to politely disagree. You can't just tell me to "shut up" because my views are radical.
PaleoConPrep
09/17/2016 11:02
Subject: Re:Applying to Sewanee ED
Anonymous wrote:PaleoConPrep wrote:Anonymous wrote:so what is your question? It appears that you've made your decision and you are announcing it to this board.
Well I do have a question about the atmosphere at the school these days. One trend I do dislike on college campuses is the silencing of people who hold politically incorrect views. (speech codes, "safe spaces", etc) While I do hold Far-Right views, I am a very open-minded person in the sense that I'm willing to consider all viewpoints. (including those that oppose mine) My view is that if you listen to me, I'll listen to you. If you respect me, I'll respect you. What I will NOT tolerate is someone telling me to "shut up" or whining to the administration about how I "offended" them, because my views are not similar to the views of the mainstream. Now while I may support him, I'm no Donald Trump(I'm not going to get in someone's face, shout, and call them names because they disagree with me) However, if a controversial issue comes up in or outside of class, I will not hesitate to give my opinion, and I will not sensor myself. I am a devout Christian, pro-life without exception, staunchly against the LGBT movement, a strong supporter of traditional gender roles, a harsh critic of Affirmative Action, and very anti-immigration. Like I said, I will give my opinions calmly, and without brashness or vulgarity. However, I will not sensor myself because some students are a little soft in the head. Calling me things like "racist", "sexist", "homophobe", "bigot", or shouting "hate speech!" is not going to silence me. I'll laugh at anyone who calls me one of these names, and then can't back up their claim. This sort of name-calling comes from Libs and modern "conservatives" Liberals call me a bigot because I'm socially conservative, and NeoCons will call me an Anti-Semite because I don't believe we should support Israel in any way. I am neither. That's why I'm not applying to Hillsdale. It's controlled by NeoCons/Straussians, and I think a Far-Right Christian Monarchist would be as uncomfortable there as a Green would be. I want a school that accepts all views, no matter how radical they may be. If someone says something stupid, they should be refuted, and that will end the matter. Silencing people does nothing. Are the students at Sewanee able to have polite disagreements, or have the SJWs taken over that school as well? Will I be free to express my views there?
can't have both ways.
Disagree. To be open-minded means that you are willing to consider views that are not your own, and that you show respect to those you disagree with. I am a very open-minded person in that sense. Like I said, as long as you respect me, I'll respect you. I'm no Liberal, but I think America needs a good dose of Classical Liberalism. We've got to be able to politely disagree. You can't just tell me to "shut up" because my views are radical.
Anonymous
09/17/2016 10:09
Subject: Re:Applying to Sewanee ED
PaleoConPrep wrote:Anonymous wrote:so what is your question? It appears that you've made your decision and you are announcing it to this board.
Well I do have a question about the atmosphere at the school these days. One trend I do dislike on college campuses is the silencing of people who hold politically incorrect views. (speech codes, "safe spaces", etc) While I do hold Far-Right views, I am a very open-minded person in the sense that I'm willing to consider all viewpoints. (including those that oppose mine) My view is that if you listen to me, I'll listen to you. If you respect me, I'll respect you. What I will NOT tolerate is someone telling me to "shut up" or whining to the administration about how I "offended" them, because my views are not similar to the views of the mainstream. Now while I may support him, I'm no Donald Trump(I'm not going to get in someone's face, shout, and call them names because they disagree with me) However, if a controversial issue comes up in or outside of class, I will not hesitate to give my opinion, and I will not sensor myself. I am a devout Christian, pro-life without exception, staunchly against the LGBT movement, a strong supporter of traditional gender roles, a harsh critic of Affirmative Action, and very anti-immigration. Like I said, I will give my opinions calmly, and without brashness or vulgarity. However, I will not sensor myself because some students are a little soft in the head. Calling me things like "racist", "sexist", "homophobe", "bigot", or shouting "hate speech!" is not going to silence me. I'll laugh at anyone who calls me one of these names, and then can't back up their claim. This sort of name-calling comes from Libs and modern "conservatives" Liberals call me a bigot because I'm socially conservative, and NeoCons will call me an Anti-Semite because I don't believe we should support Israel in any way. I am neither. That's why I'm not applying to Hillsdale. It's controlled by NeoCons/Straussians, and I think a Far-Right Christian Monarchist would be as uncomfortable there as a Green would be. I want a school that accepts all views, no matter how radical they may be. If someone says something stupid, they should be refuted, and that will end the matter. Silencing people does nothing. Are the students at Sewanee able to have polite disagreements, or have the SJWs taken over that school as well? Will I be free to express my views there?
can't have both ways.
PaleoConPrep
09/17/2016 10:01
Subject: Re:Applying to Sewanee ED
Anonymous wrote:Surprising to me that anyone in high school who at least has a superficial knowledge of Straussians isn't able to aim higher than a mediocre liberal arts college. Troll?
Not a troll. I was very active on DCUM for a while, then took a break a few months ago. I have a passion for politics.(it'd be fair to call me a political wonk) While I am on the Far-Right politically, I've read various political philosophers. I love studying political philosophy, and exploring ideas. Academically, I've been told that I'm very bright, but also pretty lazy. At my best I can be an elite student, but I don't put in a ton of effort, so my stats are slightly above average. I get pretty average quarter grades, but my midterm and final exam grades are very high. Dr. Charles Murray (a man I have great respect for) often says that ability and desire are the two most important things for a student. I've got the ability, but very little desire. I'm bored in math and science courses. I just need to work on my motivation and work ethic. Question for you. In what world is Sewanee "mediocre?" Either you're a typical DCUM snob (who thinks that anything other than the NESCAC schools is mediocre) or your knowledge of the college landscape is dated. Sewanee was once mediocre, but their acceptance rate has really decreased over the past few years. I should be fine with getting in because I'm applying ED, and because I'm a full-pay student. It's got small classes, a prep-school feel, and a very nice campus. Putting rankings to the side for a moment, I don't see how places like Colby, Bates, Trinity, or Wesleyan are really that much better than a place like Sewanee.
Anonymous
09/17/2016 09:03
Subject: Re:Applying to Sewanee ED
Anonymous wrote:Surprising to me that anyone in high school who at least has a superficial knowledge of Straussians isn't able to aim higher than a mediocre liberal arts college. Troll?
Pale is well known in these parts. I believe him to be serious about Sewanee. It's been a best kept secret school that everyone seems to have discovered overnight. It's gone supernova.
Anonymous
09/17/2016 09:01
Subject: Re:Applying to Sewanee ED
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Paleo, are you in public or private school now?
I've been in private school all through high school
Episcopal? That is probably the closest one in feel to Sewanee.
Anonymous
09/17/2016 08:56
Subject: Re:Applying to Sewanee ED
Surprising to me that anyone in high school who at least has a superficial knowledge of Straussians isn't able to aim higher than a mediocre liberal arts college. Troll?
Anonymous
09/17/2016 08:46
Subject: Re:Applying to Sewanee ED
Anonymous wrote:Paleo, are you in public or private school now?
I've been in private school all through high school
Anonymous
09/17/2016 08:39
Subject: Re:Applying to Sewanee ED
Paleo, are you in public or private school now?
PaleoConPrep
09/17/2016 03:54
Subject: Re:Applying to Sewanee ED
Anonymous wrote:so what is your question? It appears that you've made your decision and you are announcing it to this board.
Well I do have a question about the atmosphere at the school these days. One trend I do dislike on college campuses is the silencing of people who hold politically incorrect views. (speech codes, "safe spaces", etc) While I do hold Far-Right views, I am a very open-minded person in the sense that I'm willing to consider all viewpoints. (including those that oppose mine) My view is that if you listen to me, I'll listen to you. If you respect me, I'll respect you. What I will NOT tolerate is someone telling me to "shut up" or whining to the administration about how I "offended" them, because my views are not similar to the views of the mainstream. Now while I may support him, I'm no Donald Trump(I'm not going to get in someone's face, shout, and call them names because they disagree with me) However, if a controversial issue comes up in or outside of class, I will not hesitate to give my opinion, and I will not sensor myself. I am a devout Christian, pro-life without exception, staunchly against the LGBT movement, a strong supporter of traditional gender roles, a harsh critic of Affirmative Action, and very anti-immigration. Like I said, I will give my opinions calmly, and without brashness or vulgarity. However, I will not sensor myself because some students are a little soft in the head. Calling me things like "racist", "sexist", "homophobe", "bigot", or shouting "hate speech!" is not going to silence me. I'll laugh at anyone who calls me one of these names, and then can't back up their claim. This sort of name-calling comes from Libs and modern "conservatives" Liberals call me a bigot because I'm socially conservative, and NeoCons will call me an Anti-Semite because I don't believe we should support Israel in any way. I am neither. That's why I'm not applying to Hillsdale. It's controlled by NeoCons/Straussians, and I think a Far-Right Christian Monarchist would be as uncomfortable there as a Green would be. I want a school that accepts all views, no matter how radical they may be. If someone says something stupid, they should be refuted, and that will end the matter. Silencing people does nothing. Are the students at Sewanee able to have polite disagreements, or have the SJWs taken over that school as well? Will I be free to express my views there?
Anonymous
09/16/2016 21:34
Subject: Re:Applying to Sewanee ED
so what is your question? It appears that you've made your decision and you are announcing it to this board.
PaleoConPrep
09/16/2016 19:18
Subject: Applying to Sewanee ED
There have been several Sewanee threads on DCUM recently, so I thought I'd start mine. I'm a senior now. If you look at my previous threads, I looked into a lot of schools. Here's where I'm applying.
Sewanee (ED)
Patrick Henry (EA)
Hampden-Sydney (EA)
New St. Andrews (EA)
I've visited all of these places, and it took me a while to make a decision on my top choice. Here are the factors that convinced me to apply to Sewanee.
1. The size and feel of the campus: Sewanee has everything I want. It's small, fairly preppy, and in an isolated location. I'll get a lot of individual attention from my professors, and get to know my fellow students very well. When I visited, I saw many guys dressed in coats and ties, polos, etc. The other good thing about attending a place like Sewanee is that I'll meet and get to know people who aren’t like me, and who disagree with me. Not everyone there is preppy, and there are many organizations on the campus that make me cringe (several ethnic student unions, LGBT clubs, a club for Democratic Socialists, etc.) But this is the way our society is today, so I'll have to deal with it sooner or later, attending a place like Sewanee will give me a good opportunity to examine my Far-Right views, and it will give other students the opportunity to interact with a true conservative. If I attend a place like Patrick Henry, everyone will agree with me on most things, and that's no fun. Maybe I'll start a Christian Nationalists club at Sewanee. It would be a club for Christian ( Confessional Protestant and Traditional Catholic) students who are further to the Right than the Republican Party. (like me)
Being a Christian Paleoconservative who's ideal regime would be a Protestant monarchy/aristocracy( look at the Dutch Republic for an example) , I'm no Republican. It would just be a club that meets once a week, hangs out, and discusses Classical Conservative thinkers( Russell Kirk, Edmund Burke, Julius Evola, Dr. Paul Gottfried, Rev. R. L Dabney, Carl Ludwig von Haller, Friedrich Stahl, Ernst von Gerlach, Richard Weaver, Joseph de Maistre, etc) If Sewanee is fine with LGBT clubs and a Democratic Socialists club, they should have no problem with what I propose. There are a few conservative professors there (who I've been in contact with) It's an Episcopalian school. I'm a Calvinist Anglican ( certainly not fan of the modern Episcopal Church) but I'd love to sing in the chapel choir. Sewanee also has a really nice campus with a lot of gothic architecture.
2. Reputation: Sewanee is by far the best school on my list. I think it was ranked 45 in USNWR this year for national LACs. If I go to a place like PHC or NSA, it' might make things tougher for me when I apply to grad school.
Those are the 2 big factors in my decision. Sewanee has everything I want (great reputation, strong academics, small, preppy, good number of conservative students, and a really nice campus)
I think I have pretty good shot ED.
Sewanee (ED)
Patrick Henry (EA)
Hampden-Sydney (EA)
New St. Andrews (EA)
I've visited all of these places, and it took me a while to make a decision on my top choice. Here are the factors that convinced me to apply to Sewanee.
1. The size and feel of the campus: Sewanee has everything I want. It's small, fairly preppy, and in an isolated location. I'll get a lot of individual attention from my professors, and get to know my fellow students very well. When I visited, I saw many guys dressed in coats and ties, polos, etc. The other good thing about attending a place like Sewanee is that I'll meet and get to know people who aren’t like me, and who disagree with me. Not everyone there is preppy, and there are many organizations on the campus that make me cringe (several ethnic student unions, LGBT clubs, a club for Democratic Socialists, etc.) But this is the way our society is today, so I'll have to deal with it sooner or later, attending a place like Sewanee will give me a good opportunity to examine my Far-Right views, and it will give other students the opportunity to interact with a true conservative. If I attend a place like Patrick Henry, everyone will agree with me on most things, and that's no fun. Maybe I'll start a Christian Nationalists club at Sewanee. It would be a club for Christian ( Confessional Protestant and Traditional Catholic) students who are further to the Right than the Republican Party. (like me)
Being a Christian Paleoconservative who's ideal regime would be a Protestant monarchy/aristocracy( look at the Dutch Republic for an example) , I'm no Republican. It would just be a club that meets once a week, hangs out, and discusses Classical Conservative thinkers( Russell Kirk, Edmund Burke, Julius Evola, Dr. Paul Gottfried, Rev. R. L Dabney, Carl Ludwig von Haller, Friedrich Stahl, Ernst von Gerlach, Richard Weaver, Joseph de Maistre, etc) If Sewanee is fine with LGBT clubs and a Democratic Socialists club, they should have no problem with what I propose. There are a few conservative professors there (who I've been in contact with) It's an Episcopalian school. I'm a Calvinist Anglican ( certainly not fan of the modern Episcopal Church) but I'd love to sing in the chapel choir. Sewanee also has a really nice campus with a lot of gothic architecture.
2. Reputation: Sewanee is by far the best school on my list. I think it was ranked 45 in USNWR this year for national LACs. If I go to a place like PHC or NSA, it' might make things tougher for me when I apply to grad school.
Those are the 2 big factors in my decision. Sewanee has everything I want (great reputation, strong academics, small, preppy, good number of conservative students, and a really nice campus)
I think I have pretty good shot ED.