Anonymous wrote:NIMBYism is a universal problem. Out in the red states, they give homeless people a one way bus ticket to the nearest big city.

Because they literally don't have any sort of infrastructure to assist the homeless. We can't bus our way out of the problem in DC. And for the record: homeless people aren't flocking to DC from the burbs. In fact, Montgomery and Fairfax counties provide excellent resources to homeless families.

DC's failing schools, costly housing, and decades of segregated housing and poverty created the homeless family crisis. The families seeking housing through the shelter are dc residents...just like you.

NIMBYism is a universal problem. Out in the red states, they give homeless people a one way bus ticket to the nearest big city.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC's NIMBYIism?

I guess reading comprehension is not your strong suit. You seem ti have missed the part where this is not just a DC problem:

"The large shelters in New York City are considered so dangerous that the homeless would rather live on the streets. Los Angeles’ swelling homeless population has burst the confines of the city’s notorious Skid Row. Officials in San Francisco have battled to eliminate clusters of tents as property crimes have spiked on the streets. Around the nation, America’s homeless population continues to grow in many cities, including in Washington.

At the same time, local residents resist opening new shelters. This summer, a plan to temporarily convert a warehouse into an emergency shelter in Portland, Ore., met strong opposition, and New Yorkers criticized a plan to open a new shelter in East Harlem."

Or the part where DC is actually offering something other cities don't:

Washington is one of the few cities that promises to house any family with minor children and no place to sleep. Three-quarters of those families are placed in hotel rooms on the city’s dime.

Which "hotels"?

Mostly in PG county, actually.

And those hotels are quite costly and don't yield any positive results for the families. The cycle continues.

Where in PGC? I know that many of the hotels in NE DC along NY Ave house the homeless. The hotels such as days inn, Fairfield inn, quality inn, hOliday inn, HOJO all have contracts with the city. There are all within blocks of each other. And that does not include the large Salvation Army on NY avenue. That's a lot of shelter space in one location. Im sure those are not the only hotels in the city with city contracts to house the homeless.

Anonymous wrote:op please let me know how close you live to the nearest shelter. I lived three blocks from one for years.

I live around the corner from a subsidized housing program. These family shelters are essentially the same thing. Actually, they'll be much less disruptive since they'll be staffed 24/7...unlike subsidized housing programs.

I'm a public interest lawyer who focuses on homelessness, so I have some insight and expertise. One thing I wish people would understand is that a small family shelter is NOT the same as a big shelter for homeless men. These new programs will largely house a young mom with one or two young children...and they are people just like the rest of us.

No need to fear crime; young moms and their toddlers don't present a threat.

The best way to overcome fear of the unknown is to get involved. Volunteer. Embrace the program. Communities across the country have formed excellent partnerships to build bridges. My friend's church reached out to a shelter by holding a community cookout. You couldn't tell the difference between the church members and families from the housing program. That was the starting point for holistic inclusion and many wonderful programs---including retired church ladies babysitting and mentoring the young moms.

Try to imagine a neighborhood that welcomed these families, embraced them, and made a difference by helping. Nice, right?

op please let me know how close you live to the nearest shelter. I lived three blocks from one for years.

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Anonymous wrote:http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/16/us/dc-general-homeless-shelter-washington.html?_r=0

Congrats, folks! Now the world knows how ridiculous and cold-hearted you are. Note the line about people not wanting "those kids" in their precious schools.

Liberals can be such hypocrites.

Just browse the school forums for VA. You'll notice it very quickly.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC's NIMBYIism?

I guess reading comprehension is not your strong suit. You seem ti have missed the part where this is not just a DC problem:

"The large shelters in New York City are considered so dangerous that the homeless would rather live on the streets. Los Angeles’ swelling homeless population has burst the confines of the city’s notorious Skid Row. Officials in San Francisco have battled to eliminate clusters of tents as property crimes have spiked on the streets. Around the nation, America’s homeless population continues to grow in many cities, including in Washington.

At the same time, local residents resist opening new shelters. This summer, a plan to temporarily convert a warehouse into an emergency shelter in Portland, Ore., met strong opposition, and New Yorkers criticized a plan to open a new shelter in East Harlem."

Or the part where DC is actually offering something other cities don't:

Washington is one of the few cities that promises to house any family with minor children and no place to sleep. Three-quarters of those families are placed in hotel rooms on the city’s dime.

Which "hotels"?

Mostly in PG county, actually.

And those hotels are quite costly and don't yield any positive results for the families. The cycle continues.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC's NIMBYIism?

I guess reading comprehension is not your strong suit. You seem ti have missed the part where this is not just a DC problem:

"The large shelters in New York City are considered so dangerous that the homeless would rather live on the streets. Los Angeles’ swelling homeless population has burst the confines of the city’s notorious Skid Row. Officials in San Francisco have battled to eliminate clusters of tents as property crimes have spiked on the streets. Around the nation, America’s homeless population continues to grow in many cities, including in Washington.

At the same time, local residents resist opening new shelters. This summer, a plan to temporarily convert a warehouse into an emergency shelter in Portland, Ore., met strong opposition, and New Yorkers criticized a plan to open a new shelter in East Harlem."

Or the part where DC is actually offering something other cities don't:

Washington is one of the few cities that promises to house any family with minor children and no place to sleep. Three-quarters of those families are placed in hotel rooms on the city’s dime.

That quote about safety is referring to how it's dangerous to house all the homeless together in a large shelter like DC General (and the similar shelters in LA and SF. Smaller, distributed shelters are a way to mitigate this.

Precisely.

The article is about DC. Standard journalism to compare/contrast with other communities.

DC is trying to implement the nationally recognized best practice of getting rid of massive shelters and replacing them with much smaller programs distributed throughout the city. Unfortunately, DC's NIMBYISM is preventing progress.

Anonymous wrote:DC's NIMBYIism?

I guess reading comprehension is not your strong suit. You seem ti have missed the part where this is not just a DC problem:

"The large shelters in New York City are considered so dangerous that the homeless would rather live on the streets. Los Angeles’ swelling homeless population has burst the confines of the city’s notorious Skid Row. Officials in San Francisco have battled to eliminate clusters of tents as property crimes have spiked on the streets. Around the nation, America’s homeless population continues to grow in many cities, including in Washington.

At the same time, local residents resist opening new shelters. This summer, a plan to temporarily convert a warehouse into an emergency shelter in Portland, Ore., met strong opposition, and New Yorkers criticized a plan to open a new shelter in East Harlem."

Or the part where DC is actually offering something other cities don't:

Washington is one of the few cities that promises to house any family with minor children and no place to sleep. Three-quarters of those families are placed in hotel rooms on the city’s dime.

Which "hotels"?

Anonymous wrote:DC's NIMBYIism?

I guess reading comprehension is not your strong suit. You seem ti have missed the part where this is not just a DC problem:

"The large shelters in New York City are considered so dangerous that the homeless would rather live on the streets. Los Angeles’ swelling homeless population has burst the confines of the city’s notorious Skid Row. Officials in San Francisco have battled to eliminate clusters of tents as property crimes have spiked on the streets. Around the nation, America’s homeless population continues to grow in many cities, including in Washington.

At the same time, local residents resist opening new shelters. This summer, a plan to temporarily convert a warehouse into an emergency shelter in Portland, Ore., met strong opposition, and New Yorkers criticized a plan to open a new shelter in East Harlem."

Or the part where DC is actually offering something other cities don't:

Washington is one of the few cities that promises to house any family with minor children and no place to sleep. Three-quarters of those families are placed in hotel rooms on the city’s dime.

That quote about safety is referring to how it's dangerous to house all the homeless together in a large shelter like DC General (and the similar shelters in LA and SF. Smaller, distributed shelters are a way to mitigate this.

DC's NIMBYIism?

I guess reading comprehension is not your strong suit. You seem ti have missed the part where this is not just a DC problem:

"The large shelters in New York City are considered so dangerous that the homeless would rather live on the streets. Los Angeles’ swelling homeless population has burst the confines of the city’s notorious Skid Row. Officials in San Francisco have battled to eliminate clusters of tents as property crimes have spiked on the streets. Around the nation, America’s homeless population continues to grow in many cities, including in Washington.

At the same time, local residents resist opening new shelters. This summer, a plan to temporarily convert a warehouse into an emergency shelter in Portland, Ore., met strong opposition, and New Yorkers criticized a plan to open a new shelter in East Harlem."

Or the part where DC is actually offering something other cities don't:

Washington is one of the few cities that promises to house any family with minor children and no place to sleep. Three-quarters of those families are placed in hotel rooms on the city’s dime.

OMG! Not the trees!!

Ward 6 resident who welcomed our shelter. We don't recognize Ward 3 as part of DC, it's really MD-lite.

Anonymous wrote:http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/16/us/dc-general-homeless-shelter-washington.html?_r=0

Congrats, folks! Now the world knows how ridiculous and cold-hearted you are. Note the line about people not wanting "those kids" in their precious schools.

Liberals can be such hypocrites.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/16/us/dc-general-homeless-shelter-washington.html?_r=0

Congrats, folks! Now the world knows how ridiculous and cold-hearted you are. Note the line about people not wanting "those kids" in their precious schools.